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Debate: Banning smoking in public places?

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (0 minutes after post)

yay, coz it has been done over here and it has made suuuuch a difference!

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (2 minutes after post)

I’m against it. It’s just people being whiney.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (3 minutes after post)

do u smoke xeno dragon?

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (4 minutes after post)

Yes. I smoke cloves.

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Shannon127 offline Verified User (11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (5 minutes after post)

lol eloquently put xeno…im not sure where i stand. I dont smoke cigaretes and i do admit that it is somewhat bothersome to have smoking all around me sometimes but on the other hand im not sure if people shouldnt be allowed to smoke in public places when they want to

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Roz offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 43 #
Fort Wayne, IN, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

We have one in Fort Wayne, IN. But first they made all the resturants build on or in a smoking place in there building, now they have wasted all that money, they ban smoking indoors everywhere, what a rip off for the people who built the smoking rooms.

I don’t smoke, but I think it is stupid, the smoke ban, if you have assingned place to do it in, or if your in a club/bar for over 21’s

Clove smokes are nice, mellow smoke they sell them here.

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10 months, 2 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

uhm… whats it supposed to acheive? its just annoying for people who do smoke, people who dont smoke dont need to stand right next to a smoker and whinge about it.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

but it damages other peoples health!

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Godiskin offline Unverified User #
Saint Petersburg, FL, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

you cant respect others air space.. sound selfish.. not whiney

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (13 minutes after post)

If you don’t like it, hold your breath for the three seconds it takes to walk past them.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (14 minutes after post)

i mean more in bars and resturants. I dont mean outside so much,

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (15 minutes after post)

I think bars should allow it, and retaurants should have outdoor seating for smokers.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (16 minutes after post)

yeah but bars still have people crammed into them, a lot of which are non smokers?

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Shannon127 offline Verified User (11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (17 minutes after post)

here in arizona you dont even have a smoking section anymore. There is not supposed to be any smoking except by specific areas that have signs by them. (pretty much just outside)

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Roz offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 43 #
Fort Wayne, IN, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (17 minutes after post)

I agree,

Xeno Dragon wrote:
I think bars should allow it, and retaurants should have outdoor seating for smokers.

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (17 minutes after post)

Then don’t go to the smokey bar if you don’t like the smoke.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

but all bars are usually smokey! Go outside for a ***!

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

So find a non-smoking bar.

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (19 minutes after post)

Or, just stop drinking in public places. lol

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Godiskin offline Unverified User #
Saint Petersburg, FL, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (21 minutes after post)

we have a smoke ban inside places.. smoke outside alll you want…

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Roz offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 43 #
Fort Wayne, IN, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (21 minutes after post)

I remember when I was young and smoked, I got jobs where you could smoke, like a bar, or once at a spirits store. So the clubs are over 21 and you have free will.

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (22 minutes after post)

Well, Sophie, if someone is willing to tell other people to stop doing something in public, they shouldn’t be surprised if they’re asked to stop doing something in public.

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AnishK offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (25 minutes after post)

Ban smoking. Period.

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Godiskin offline Unverified User #
Saint Petersburg, FL, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (28 minutes after post)

smoking kills.. clean air doesnot

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (29 minutes after post)

lol, jus ban it, fact… it kills!!

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Godiskin offline Unverified User #
Saint Petersburg, FL, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (29 minutes after post)

smoke away from me all you want…. not in a place im dining at

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (29 minutes after post)

exactly

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slimline2 offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 18 #
Liston, 02, AU | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (55 minutes after post)

public is public its not just a few who are no smokers ,i know gave up 3years ago people looked at me like i was from another world when i was smoking no discrimination in public please, next they try to ban f-a-r-t-i-n-g what next…..

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (17 hours, 40 minutes after post)

so even if it causes people ill health whether they smoke or not it still shouldnt be band? Thats jus mad!

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slimline2 offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 18 #
Liston, 02, AU | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 7 minutes after post)

to ban smoking means to shut all factories ,by all, i mean every one on this planet ,do you believe in Santa?????

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Shannon127 offline Verified User (11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 7 minutes after post)

wow….just wow…

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 12 minutes after post)

what!? Shut every single factory? what on earth?

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US Navy? offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Chesapeake, VA, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 37 minutes after post)

Smoker for smoking ban. Denver is a publicly smoking ban state. I voted for the measure too, I also voted for higher cig taxes for the fact that the measure stated that it would send those taxes into the healthcare system for uninsured children.

It should be safe for everyone to go to a public building or establishment. As the population of nonsmokers increases it only makes sense. When I go to the bar out here in VA (no smoking ban) only a small percentage of smokers are there.

Fact is we all know it is unhealthy and a pain in the butt. Maybe if we slowly make it harder and harder to smoke, then we can all get that much closer to quiting.

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Shannon127 offline Verified User (11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Phoenix, AZ, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 40 minutes after post)

thanks rocky mountain coastie…i think i like your response the best…you explained it well..

not saying to everyone that i agree 100% on his/her opinion but it was well stated

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ruidosa offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Dorney, P9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (21 hours, 40 minutes after post)

yeah! it’s bad example for teens, staff working in bars (and the like) suffer, many other reasons. in my country it’s banned, and me, as a non-smoker, is pretty happy :P

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ruidosa offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Dorney, P9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (21 hours, 46 minutes after post)

btw, a night club smoke-free!!! ummm… that was sth unbelievable firsttime when i get in! :)

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JesusMurphy offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 11 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (22 hours after post)

My city’s banned smoking inside restaurants and bars. A couple years ago, about every restaurant had a smoking section inside, which really made no difference at all when it came to stopping 2nd hand smoke. So they got rid of it altogether, but smoking outside and **** is allowed. And if you’re seen ditching a cigarette butt on the sidewalk or something, you ge fined ALOT of money. meh, I think it’s a fair system, even though i smoke. I got no right to impose my smoke onto anyone else.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (22 hours, 12 minutes after post)

Well im glad theres some smokers out there who feel the same as u moniker.

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vickierhodesm offline Verified User (1 year) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Missoula, MT, US | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (22 hours, 43 minutes after post)

Nay…If they are going to ban smoking then why don’t we just have prohibition again. Because the facts are that drunk driving kills more people per year than cigarrettes that is a fact.

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JesusMurphy offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 11 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (22 hours, 47 minutes after post)

vickierhodesm wrote:
Nay…If they are going to ban smoking then why don’t we just have prohibition again. Because the facts are that drunk driving kills more people per year than cigarrettes that is a fact.

Nope, my cigarette packs have these statistics on them where it goes “deaths per year by homicide: some number, deaths per year by car accidents: some number, and some other ones I forget (hey there’s my excuse to go by a new pack lol), but the deaths per year by the cigarettes is always the highest. And I don’t think anyone really wants to ban smoking alltogether, just protect people who don’t smoke from it. Like, you have the right to smoke, but you should also have the right FROM smoke.

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Janeywaney offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Crickadarn, Y9, GB | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (22 hours, 48 minutes after post)

doesnt matter if drink driving kills more people, unfortunately its a bit more difficult to stop drink driving but it is a lot easier to stop smoking in bars and clubs so at least some people are being saved.

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