I consider my self beyond good and evil
Trying to perfect the world
and bring peace, and order I believe in order to achieve it some people must be lost
People with no value, people and who cause conflict They are of no use
in long run it for the better or Perhaps I’m the problem
I want to hear your opinions your thoughts of this perhaps you can convince me otherwise
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haha, kinda like this one guy named Kira on a show called “Death note” lol
Anyway..I don’t think you have a problem..I mean everyone wants to clear the world of these hurtful, useless people.
It’s when you act on those feelings to an extreme that it becomes a problem.
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Who is to determine the people with no value? And what makes them have no value?
“People with no value, people and who cause conflict They are of no use” - Bailio
You are like so many others in this world, if you ever act on it tho you become exactly like the people who have no value, and cause conflict.
I’m a total bytch and have survived. Be all the bytch you can be and life will be good.
strange, but anyways yeah, you cant kill all the bad people, they would kill you first with their strange laser type guns or rocket launchers or maybe their bodyguards would kill you before you even got near them, have you actually got a plan?
People of no value
Are the people who are drug addicts … who are nothing more then trash
and no i dont have a plan
Do you not see
A world were there is no violence, there is conflict no problems as far a society is concerned were everything is peaceful a few people released elsewhere what does it matter it for the better good
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I consider my self beyond good and evil
Trying to perfect the world
and bring peace, and order I believe in order to achieve it some people must be lost
People with no value, people and who cause conflict They are of no use
in long run it for the better or Perhaps I’m the problem
i’m not saying to kill them, just placing them some were else which they can live how ever they please……..
Bailio wrote:
Trying to perfect the world
What is perfect?
Bailio wrote:
and bring peace, and order I believe in order to achieve it some people must be lost
How many people would have to be lost before you consider your cause as eliminating peace?
Bailio wrote:
some people must be lost
People with no value, people and who cause conflict
since human societies have a long history of fighting wars for and against ideologies that allow some people to be lost, how far would you let it go before deciding that it is you who causes conflict?
Not to mention, who gets to decide which people have value?
Bailio wrote:
People of no valueAre the people who are drug addicts … who are nothing more then trash
Which drugs? The drugs that are illegal depends on which country you are in. The drugs that are “bad” for you depends on which group of scientists you are talking to, generally.
Most people I know are addicted to caffeine and sugar. I know a fair amount of people who are open about their use of alcohol or tobacco, which every scientifically acceptable study shows to be more dangerous than a fair number of drugs currently illegal in the U.S. (and many other countries). Are you going to make alchol illegal? Do some research on Prohibition and educate yourself on how that worked out. Not to mention, some of the most dangerous drugs out there that people get addicted to are originally developed as potent medicines to help those with terrible diseases. Are you going to make most pills illegal and let a large portion of the “valuable” people suffer or die in order to prevent the developement of junkies?
Bailio wrote:
i’m not saying to kill them, just placing them some were else which they can live how ever they please……..
Well, considering that most of these people would not go peacefully, and you’d be damaging the lives of a lot of “valuable” people who would have their families split up, wouldn’t you end up causing a lot of conflict? Wouldn’t that make you one of the people who “must be lost”? Does that mean you would move to this new place with all of the valueless people?
Bailio wrote:
you think they have value… If so, how?
How will you account for all of the artistic, philosophic and scientific geniuses throughout history that were also addicts? Would you erase such a significant portion of our world’s paintings, music, literature, development of our religious and political views, and a myriad of inventions?
Bailio wrote:
Do you not seeA world were there is no violence, there is conflict no problems as far a society is concerned were everything is peaceful a few people released elsewhere what does it matter it for the better good
How are you going to split up families and impose your view of who is valuable without there being an outbreak of violence? If you take all of the bad people in the world and group them together in their own nation where they are free to live however they please, how are you going to prevent them from making war on your valuable people, thus ending peace? Would you let them take you over, or would your valuable people have an army to fight them? If you build an army, wouldn’t it make you seem hypocritical when you say you’re all about peace and eliminating violence? Who would take you seriously?
That which is considered “good” or “evil” depends on who you are talking to. Some things are known to be evil in one culture, but embraced as good in another culture. Many things are debated as good or evil even within the same culture. Often, that argument can occur even within the same person. Good and evil are not inherent, they’re just a person’s thoughts. You don’t sound “beyond” them in any sense, rather you seem to just have not thought them out very well.Bailio wrote:
I consider my self beyond good and evil
Bailio wrote:
Perhaps I’m the problem
Nah, don’t worry too much about that, I’d say. _Most_ people with glaringly obvious contradictions and omission of logical ethics in their philosophy can’t gain much power in this world. I doubt you’ll cause any big problems.
This would be a good test of your theory. Gather all of the people that think like you and put them on an island and see how long peace and harmoney will last. I would give you 24 hours before the first conflict and 1 week untill the first death. You need to read the book Lord of the Flys. Hope this helps :-)
And you K2 finally an opinion, although you right to so sense, still peace is all I desire I go a little crazy trying to achieve I know it shall never happen but I shall do my best to get it
Sounds like a good goal. I don’t know how to do it; sometimes I think that peace runs counter to human nature. I’d like it, though, so I wish you luck :)
dude how can you not have a plan, go make one first and then get back to us and we’ll help you see if its feasible or not, good luck
you cant control anything that anyone else does, all you have control over is yourself. so, if you want peace, then try searching inside before trying to perfect the outside world. i think youll find that the reason that the external conflict affects you so much is because you havnt found the internal peace that youre lookings for. learn to accept, remember and try to live by the saying live and let live. as much as ur entitled to your own thoughts, beliefs and way of life, so too is everyone else who is on this planet, thats the point of free will.
perhaps try asking why ur so judgemental of everyone else and why u think that ur so right?
personally im one of the invaluable drug addicts…unfortunately i seem to be of more value to the contribution of overall peace to society than u do. maybe you should try taking some drugs and opening your mind and losing your ego abit then get back to me and let me know how ur going on the non-judgementalness and acceptance of everyones, including urself, choices.
;peace
I’m not be able to control them but I cant get close
you would be surprised what words or can do to people they believe anything. In our society why should people who hurt others, who abuse others who have no loyalty they are of no use do nothing but cause conflict but I’m not talking about world peace but rather in my nation which is America so it would not affect you ….
there are people who ‘hurt others’ everywhere, not just in your country. but as you cannot control anythng that anyone else does, so too no-one can make you feel anything. you can choose not to be affected by what anyone else does, instead you can offer everyone love and then all you will see is peace. you will see people who are hurting themselves, feeling completely alone and prooving it to themselves by pushing everyone who loves them away in the pursuit of what they see as happiness or trying to protect themselves from future hurt.
everyone is of value, whether you like it or not. the reality of the situation is that we would not know what happiness was if we did not have saddness to compare it to. the same works with everything, there needs to be opposites so that you can see both sides and choose which you prefer. unfortunately some people have trouble understanding that. all they can see and feel is the negative, they get stuck there. if you have managed to find solice in yourself and a sense of peace then instead of begrudging those who have not you should feel proud of yourself for finding that and offer a bit of hope to others who have yet to find it. but if you continually get affected by others who have not yet then you truely havnt found any peace…keep searching, internally because that is all you truely know.
;peace
I’m not be able to control them but I cant get close
When your are nice, kind and show love those type of people will think you weak and take advantage they all ways do why should the innocent suffer they of are of no use
but i can get close
I’m am fully aware that when there is no evil there is no good and that’s the way i want it that they only way there shall be peace
dude, first i think you need peace in your own head, then worry about the world, obviously something is not quite right in there, fix yourself and it shall be like you have fixed the world
youre writing in a kinda forced way, with all those “shalls” and all that. Instead of trying to be a bad kira knock off, why not try to help people? Oh, and killing drug addicts would not be helping people.
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