Why do you think like that?
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God doesnt reward people. He sits…and watches. In the end who do you think is going to get into heaven? The evil, or the good?
ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ wrote:
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Then why would you even say anything?
Well, Assuming you believe in, Satan/Devil/Lucifer , whatever you want to call it…
Then perhaps you are looking at it the wrong way.
Perhaps its Satan fighting against God’s force, and giving these Evil people, Good things. And Its Satan, doing you wrong.
And God doesn’t step in to save the day because, he see’s it as a test of your good faith. And what is a little hurt while on Earth, compared to a Kingdom or Heaven.
Basically what Nightowl said.
*Kingdom OF Heaven, not or.
Lets stay on topic, please
retrospace18 wrote:
Lets stay on topic, please
How about you not tell me what to do
i know, today in the morning, i had a great day, but then like murphys law, later today someone steels my note book and IPOD CLassic. i am so pissed off and sad. my teacher even let me do a bag check on all the students, but it was my fault for brining the ipod in the first place.
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1 year, 8 months ago (8 minutes after post)
Well I know so many people who lie and cheat and they have such charmed live I work hard everyday I am honest try my hardest to help those in need and everyday I struggle it just does not seem fair why the people who are dishonest get a head
ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ wrote:
retrospace18 wrote:
Lets stay on topic, please
How about you not tell me what to do
IF you have issues with me, open a new forum, but by all reason, don’t ruin this persons cry for help, because of your pride.
Hi Dani, fancy seeing you here, lol
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Let it not bother you what others have, you should only be concerned that you are not lying and cheating.
yeah whatever why don’t you just stop replying to me then i wouldn’t have to reply back
but anyway I just came together with what i was first going to say
was that
isn’t it the opposite?
Poster what type rewards are you talking about? There are greater rewards for honesty and kindness, rather then monetary rewards.
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1 year, 8 months ago (31 minutes after post)
No I was talking about monitary rewards just I struggle with everything my kids my job everything and I keep believing that if I keep doing “THE RIGHT” thing then it will all work out but it has been 6 years and I am tired!!
You have to believe there is a reason, even if you can’t see it now. I’ve went through things and for a long time that I didn’t understand, but then later was able to help someone else through the same thing. I don’t know if that helps, maybe someone else has something better to say.
A dishonest person can’t trust anyone else and not being able to trust anyone else is a hell of sorts. Mean people are usually shown up eventually and their isolation from others as a result will be another hell. People who try hard to be good are not punished by God but by others out of jealousy. It’s hard to live the good life but doing so makes you stronger than they are. If you have been hurt by trying to do good believe me God is watching and there are many others like that out there.
I’m starting to think that I may not be on God’s side because what if me trying to be good didn’t have a good reason behind it thus making me evil and punishable by God or whatever. I’m like a stepping stone or the door before my enemies blessing and somehow I continue to get God’s wrath. I really don’t know what God’s plan is or if He intends to continue to do this for His own little amusement or whatever, but I’m starting to get serious here.
You should check out the book of Job. I know it is meant to be a piece of fiction but the writer obviously had an inkling about someone (perhaps himself or herself) who always seems to get the brunt end of the stick even when they are doing their level best.
I am so sorry to read that you feel like a stepping stone- can I ask you: do you say “yes” when someone- anyone- asks you to do something even if it greatly inconveniences you? I am just trying to get an idea about why you feel so badly about yourself and about others?
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1 year, 8 months ago (5 days, 15 hours after post)
I always say yes I am a total people pleaser! I just would like for one day the world to turn in my direction.
ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ wrote:
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There is such pain in what some of you are writing, I am a christian and I was rejected by my family, i have had it really hard in life, , and at times, I get angry at God, why me, but underneath it all is hopeless pain and rejection and I have to pour that out continually to God, I feel at those times, His still voice saying “I know, and I love You” you are precious to me” This is how He feels about everyone, yes everyone, I know the pain of a broken heart, and the cruelty of life, but I also know the abandonement of not running to my Father God with my pain, this takes time to do this, but IT IS THE answer, somewhere, sometime we will know why these things have happened, I have no answers, but suffering is part of life, for everyone, dont be fooled no one escapes. The battle is always in the mind, the devil wants us to curse God in our hearts and become hardened, where I would appeal to you to turn to God, He knows pain by giving His son to a cruel unspeakable death on the cross and taking on His body the whole sin of the world including my mental agony and He did it for us, to be free from the mental agony (which i think is the worse pain).
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I know right i was extremly good for 3 years and i do not get nothing now i think god hates us who arte the good but not the evil maybe god has teamed up with the devil or whatever you call it
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I think god is being unfair it needs to be the opposite
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I always say yes I am a total people pleaser! I just would like for one day the world to turn in my direction.
Hey i am to i never say no if someone told me to eat a ballon i would
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Maybe is is hell. Maybe we were bad people at some point and this is our punishment. And we’re suppose to do this type of good heart thing without any reward. If that is the thing then It is not working. It just make me want to be a bad person cause they always win always.
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I ******* resent god with all my ******* heart!
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Do you feel better about it?
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in todays world, God is found in some lost corner of the earth. Everyone is so judgemental and materialistic.
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Is it fair that many go through life doing evil and all sorts of sins their entire life and yet everything good comes their way like winning the lottery, great paying job, ect ect…they still continue to lie, cheat, steal, mock others, do drugs, and yet they have a life of no financial stress, travel the world, eat well, and stay warm. Their whole life on this Earth has been stress free with little worry….then in their late time of their life and near death they ask the Lord for forgiveness and the Lord grants this to them…they then enter the kingdom of heaven!! So now they have had the best of both worlds while many others on Earth are honest, sincere, compassionate, helpful their whole life, have prayed everyday…yet they struggle or go through tragic situations, illness, hard times with no help from God. Yes they may later enter the kingdom of God but is it fair that they had only a good life only after death when others like above can repent in the last seconds of their life! I’m sorry but this is wrong! Your life here and the things you have done during that time should be judged in relation to the good or evil that was showed during your entire life on Earth NOT in the last minute of your life by asking for forgiveness. If God knows everything and knows what a person will do in the futures as well, why does God reward these people before they are born with talents that will make them millions of dollars and a life of paradise here on Earth (like entertainers,sports figures, CEO’s ect.) and yet these same people rewarded by God live a life violating Gods ways by doing drugs, fornication, cheating, ect. Yet it is God who knew before they were born that they would live sinfully by abusing the talents that God gave them. Yet those others born like myself and or you who are faithful to God and good here on Earth are not given any talents or gifts let alone the chance by God like the chance these rich entertainers ect., especially when God already knew the outcome of these rich evil doers. Sorry but I believe in rewarding an individual here on Earth who I know will do right before they were born while punishing those that do evil on earth. There is no excuse that God does not intevene…free will?? free ********! Your book was written long before you were born by God and the things you do here on Earth after your born are long written as well so bottom line there is no such thing as free will. Don’t believe me…it’s no different then if you knew when you were going to die and how it will happen because if you knew the exact date you would still not be able to stop it! Your death was written by God before you were born! Again free will…bull ****. My faith and hope has been broken by all those rotten people who seem to be rewarded while I and many others suffer and yet we still stay vigilent to the word of God and yet I have to die before I am rewarded.
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I think we get so wrapped up in blaming someone else for our own misfortunes, We lose the ability to cope and move on.
When every little bad thing that happens in our life is blamed and put on “God’s” fault, Then we slowly become irresponsible humans. Not to mention when we put complete faith into something we can’t see, We beging to stop looking out for our own backs and say things like “I pray” or “God is watching me”. Which in return allows bad things to happen to us.
Granted somethings are out of our hands, Like deaths. But alot of other things aren’t. Like Jobs, Health (Granted somethings like cancer you can’t control, but going to treatments and what not instead of prayig, Help.), and wealth.
And I’m no Bible Scholar Dmercha, But I’m pretty sure somewhere in there it says something about your level of rewards in Heaven based on your actions on Earth. So where as if you pray and ask for forgiveness within your dying moments, But lead a Life of “sin”, Then you will get little to no rewards, The only thing you will get is being saved from a burning pit of fire, and a Demon with horns and a tail violating you. In comparison , if you lead a life of good deads, then you willl be rewarded with mansions, Crowns to cast at Jesus’ feet, Praise , Eternal life beside your maker, Maybe the ability to help your loved ones still on Earth, Etc, Etc, Etc.
Free Will is tricky…. To ourselves we have Free Will. You can do whatever you want. Just because someone knows what you are going to do, Doesn’t take away your free will. What you do is completely your choice, And just because “God” knows what is going to happen next, Doesn’t mean it’s not your choice. “God” doesn’t react based on the future, Obviously, So there fore your free will and choices, Are indeed that.
“There is no excuse that God does not intevene”. Yes there is, You’re giving human qualities to a “God”. If we had the power to foresee the future we would attempt to alter it for the better. But because we have free will, “God” doesn’t do this. “God” lets us make our own deciscions and decide our own fate. And Death, has nothing to do with “God”. Even if you don’t believe in “God”, You still know you’ll die. Just because we know where the road ends, Doesn’t mean we all get there the same, making the same choices.
And you could say Death is the cashing in of the chips, Or the cashing in of your check at the end of a hard works week at the job. So why not work hard and rejoice once the work is done.
I am in no way religious, But I do think I have free will, I can do whatever I want, whenever, However. Just because I know Ill die, Doesn’t mean I can’t do those things.
Well I don’t know if I can help but I’ll give you the honest answer why those things seem to happen (and all to often do) God has created all of us with free will. He gives us guidelines for a life of fulfillment and happiness in His word. It is up to us to either obey or not obey. Let’s take an extreme case of evil just to prove a point. Why didn’t God stop the terrorists from killing all those people on 9/11? Very simple, free will. We make the choice everyday whether we are going to obey God and although He is all powerful and can whatever He decides He chooses to let us make it on our own. That’s the whole reason we’re here is to serve Him and serve one another. He could have made everything perfect and in the beginning it was. When we chose to make our own decisions what is right and wrong that’s when the evil began. We can’t change that now but we can do is try to follow what he says and though it may sound crazy (it does to me still somedays) be thankful when these tough times come because he’s doing something in it. This is not the world he intended for us but he uses everything if we LET Him. Anything from losing your Ipod (which sucks and I’m sorry to hear by the way) to losing someone you love. God can make something beautiful from it.
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God is whatever God is. His compassion, caring, love, help, etc. does not apply. If you need help, then believe help is available and this will help you. If you question it, it will be gone. Create what you need without question, and all the rest is minor detail to be avoided. When you need help, the thought that help is available is all that you’ve got to hang on to. So don’t let go of it until you can afford to do so when better times prevail. This is the power of belief, faith, positive thinking or whatever else you may want to call it. But, it’s not God. So, the question of whether God helps or not does not apply. This question will only hurt you more.
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The Lord our God is a mean *******. He is not fair nor is he just. I have been kneeling and praying to him for most of my life. I am a simple man and and have only asked for a good job to take care of my family. I have gotten great paying jobs on my own merit, only to be laid off. this has happened many times. I have only been left to scratch and claw to pay the bills until I could get the next job. I have been at the foot of my bed praying to the Lord so many times, going over all the scripture I have learned, and read the bible for the faith to go on. The Lord has only fed me scraps and made me beg and claw. My faith has finally run out and I won’t pray or ask for forgiveness any longer. The religious zealots will have something to say I’m sure, but they, as well as the lord can kiss my *** too.
I was so mad at god, I wanted to be a dishonest, mean person to show god that how angry I was with him. But I couldn’t be dishonest, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t. I can not still from others, I can not hurt someone and sleep good at night. My life could have been much easer if I could. Everyone around me seems doing excellent job on being mean and dishonest. They say what goes around comes around, with me; how come all the nice things I’ve done for others, and the evil things have been done to me, always goes around never comes around? There are times I believe I am the only fool in this planet, still believing in being a good person.
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