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Hmmm. This is a brain teaser. My first thought is, that “god” is in everything and is the rock, the weight, all the illusions that we perceive, anyway. I believe the illusions are real, too, but they are illusions. This is a human perception, and requirement of God, to prove. What is “god” in my belief is both simple and complex at the same time, therefore, very easy to understand and yet beyond our perceptions of our physical laws. God is Logic. Too logical to fall for such a trap, or need to give proof.

interesting.
thanks for sharing.

very interesting and a good point to make people think i suppose.

What if he could both lift, and not lift the rock? He can do ANYTHING right? Why not bend reality, so that he could, and at the same time could not lift the rock?

adam, it very, very, much depends on the definition of god
there COULD, (in the sense that this specific thing does not disprove it), but only if he is not omniepotent, in an “unintellangent designer” sense. In other words, The Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Nightowl wrote:
What if he could both lift, and not lift the rock? He can do ANYTHING right? Why not bend reality, so that he could, and at the same time could not lift the rock?

Poor Shrödinger’s cat, being dead and alive at the same time.

so jesus is a super zombie? And he was really a german kitty?
the bible makes alot more sense now!

mou = god wrote:

Nightowl wrote:
What if he could both lift, and not lift the rock? He can do ANYTHING right? Why not bend reality, so that he could, and at the same time could not lift the rock?

Poor Shrödinger’s cat, being dead and alive at the same time.

You must use the google, young grasshopper.

mou = god wrote:
You must use the google, young grasshopper.

why do that when i can bullshit people into thinking I know what I talk about?
and im a beautiful butterfly

Adamlongname wrote:

Nightowl wrote:
What if he could both lift, and not lift the rock? He can do ANYTHING right? Why not bend reality, so that he could, and at the same time could not lift the rock?

I do see where you are going. However, would this mean he could do anything, or that there are now TWO things he cannot do? Who’s to say that doing so would make him fully omnipotent rather than detracting from his omnipotence?

And mou, I JUST read about the cat 2 days ago. The poison in the bottle, right? Mind blowing.

wait,….what cat? I can have link plz?

Adamlongname wrote:
And mou, I JUST read about the cat 2 days ago. The poison in the bottle, right? Mind blowing.

Yup, ’tis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödi…

i suppose “god” transcends logic. i’d assume you’d have that power if you were omnipotent, wouldn’t you?

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http://www.paradoxes.co.uk/#catch

this is a great list

Adamlongname wrote:
So, in essence, he can’t create a world that uses current logic in which he is omnipotent.

Therefore, he is not omnipotent.
case and point.

no he can create a world that uses logic. but HE doesn’t have to abide by logic. only us. anything beyond that, and we would never be able to understand it. it seems quite simple. to me god is whatever transcends logic.

Adamlongname wrote:
That was actually the one I visited that sparked this post, commander.Small internet, eh?

did you use stumbleupon to find it like i did?

and adam, get a real picture of yourself up, submit to peer pressure

Adamlongname wrote:
Dude! Stumbleupon is my social network of choice! Rock on!

And, I know, I just have to get a camera set up. Also, I am waiting for a day when I don’t look like a drug addict. (I always have deep, dark circles under my eyes, except on rare occasions)

drug addicts are fun!

post an old picture if necessary

Adamlongname wrote:
Er, I think I have one from the fifth grade somewhere… :P

I don’t take many pictures. Could that be why I have such a low sense of self?

or maybe you get bugged by the flash, I wouldn’t know.

Don’t you have a school picture to add?

Adam the burninator wrote:
However, the rock, a component of the world, would have to abide by logic as it IS a part of the world. Either the rock is lifted or not. If you are staring at the rock, you won’t say “hmm, It was lifted and not lifted at the same time.” No. It would have to abide by logic to be seen, and that means it going either way.

maybe the rock has to obey the logic of this world, but the action of “god” doesn’t. for example, catholics believe god can change the existence of an object without us ever noticing it. for example, the bread becoming “jesus’ flesh”. though it becomes flesh, it retains the characteristics of bread. if you want to believe that, i don’t see why it could not happen, since and omnipotent power can do anything.

so perhaps god really is both lifting and not lifting the rock. we just wouldn’t know it because our brains can’t comprehend it.