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unless during this part when he said “increase in numbers, they actually did, like in the matrix that creepy “mr. anderson” guy, but that wouldnt really make sense would it?
26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
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well, yes, Im just wondering, its little mistakes like that that made me not believe it in the first place though, I’ll show more of those mistakes in a bit
This has been subject to debate for years. Some say that Adam and Eve had more children than just Cain and Abel and that in the early days, when the gene pool was still fresh and young, there was bound to be some interbreeding going on before any real damage could be done. This is evident with the story of Jacob marrying his cousins (albeit somewhat unintentionally).
Others read into the passage that says ‘the sons of God met with the daughters of Eve’ (or something along those lines) and believe that angles came and mated with human women to give birth to the human race.
Finally, you can go the way of theological evolution and believe that Adam and Eve are merely constructs of mythology and that the human race simply evolved.
Perhaps you may be enlightened with sumarian history, but one would assume god made more people before cain became an adult,eve also bore another child named seth as well,i believe interbreeding was allowed by god early in days when you consider the story of lot and his daughters,it may not have been a genetic issue of conscern
Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. 3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. 4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
So why is it that people think that we(wiccans) saccrifice animals, and say it is bad? We dont, mind you, but why do people say things like that about us?
I guess it just depends who or what you’re sacrificing it to.
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Adam [a] lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. [b] She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth [c] a man.” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
later it says
Adam lay with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, [i] saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.” 26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh.
At that time men began to call on [j] the name of the LORD.
so far every one in the bible except Eve and cains wife is male. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?…
this is where Im getting my info from by the way, and Im not really trying to stir up controversy, Im just kind of bored and want to talk about stuff I cant talk to my family about.
This is because abel offered his finest livestock for sacrifice and cain offered the worst of his produce as can be found in the book of asher,sacrifice was abolished by the lord jesus christ,he being the last offering for sin,good point though nine the hydra
Generally only the male lineage was recorded
Perhaps she was “pulled” from a male rib like eve was???
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The problems you see in Genesis, and throughout the Bible, are only problems if you take a fundamentalist approach to reading it, which seems inadequate, if not inappropriate.
We don’t have the whole Bible. We have translations of translations of translations, and at any point in the centuries of translating that took place, sections of the Bible could have been taken out altogether. We simply don’t know what is missing. Besides, the Bible is not just a historic document but a collection of many historic documents, and reading it literally fails to take into account the true nature of the Bible.
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.
What Im wondering is what made a year in these days, like what 2 months or something, because living to 930 today is quite a feat, let alone impossible
The problem with discussions like this is there is an explaination for every discrepancy in the Bible. It’s just a Nod problem. At the heart of it, it all comes down to what you want to believe.
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Some people believe that the earth used to be in a bubble. This would account for longer life, although the actual reason for this escapes me… I heard that somewhere. Anyway, the Great Flood later on was just the bubble popping.
Just goes to show… um… there was some sort of point to this. I forget what.
I know, Im just really bored, and yes Im reading the replies
oh and I found the answer to the age question
When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with [a] man forever, for he is mortal [b] ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
Anyway. I return to my above point. There really can be no argument for or against, as each argument leads straight to a counter-argument, and so on and so forth. The only truly deciding factor is what you want to believe.
“The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.”
these arent very good proportions for two of every kind of animal to be living in.
Nine- I know I’ve kind of already made up my mind about the bible, but I want to talk about it, I like discussing things like this and I like to hear other peoples opinion. If you would rather not talk about it then dont, Im going to, and I will continue to post my opinions on here even if no one replies. Its my way of getting out frustrations I have. my family is a bit forceful with the bible and to them there is nothing wrong with it, which is fine, just I cant talk to them about this stuff so I usually end up talking to myself about it. here, I can talk to other people and not care if theyre listening or not, knowing that as long as theyre reading it at least Im heard.
Men lived 1000 years until god somehow genetically impaired our ageing perhaps you need to read the whole book with the help of people who have studied it for some time because it is quite a feat to comprehend the meaning and whole book without such or the aid of spirit and without an open non judgemental approach in a short period of time,many understandings must be grasped and set in foundation to build an accurate understanding in the mind scholars have taken lifetimes to understand it ,why would we take hours but you should always find an answer if you are really seeking one,perhaps noah only took dna
Some books of the Bible were removed. Why? Don’t know but the men that have done this are in the biggest rotisserie in the universe.
In another book, I’m not sure which now since I’ve researched soo many books, it had stated that Eve indeed had daughters and these daughters married their brothers so forth and so on…
It also indicated that Cain and Abel were fraternal twins and eve had daughters before having seth. So it’s a time line thing that’s left wide open for debate. Most people avoid that debate because we only know in part.
As far as Noah’s Ark…… I think you may find this movie interesting.
Noah’s Ark
Well actually the was no one book until the emperor constantine only individual scolls,the book of isaiah was found intact complete in the dead sea scolls discovery with nothing altered in over two thousand years of history,i would say the majority of the books in the kjv bible have been carefully reprinted over time and fairly accurate though the father did warn anyone to not alter these books leading me to assume some would,the great mystery is yet to be revealed also leaving the understanding we cannot possiblely know the whole truth as yet
In the old testament - women were not given a voice in the church - so who wrote the book of Ruth then??
You have to take into account that there were many years in which the only people who were decently literate were the monks - the bible was copied over and over by their hands (before the age of the printing press) - these monks served under the church, which was the Government - and what benefits the power of any Government more than the convenient manipulation of history…
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well actually the was no one book until the emperor constantine only individual scolls,the book of isaiah was found intact complete in the dead sea scolls discovery with nothing altered in over two thousand years of history,i would say the majority of the books in the kjv bible have been carefully reprinted over time and fairly accurate though the father did warn anyone to not alter these books leading me to assume some would,the great mystery is yet to be revealed also leaving the understanding we cannot possiblely know the whole truth as yet
Agreed! however, king james did order some books to be kept out. i’m glad we only know in part because we can barely handle the 50% we know now l.o.l.!!!
Thats a catholic concept women in fact held high positions in the church very early in the days ,under the title of mary which the catholics could not entirely hide hence their sisters with such titles as sister mary …
Jesus himself refers to older books ,the book of the lord the book of asher and the book of jubiliees,not sure on the spelling there but it was the reason for the university of paris to be founded in order to decypher this scroll
interesting fact,a small broken parchment in the dead sea scroll finds stated only the words :you know Isaiah will survive;THIS WAS THE ONLY SCROLL FOUND COMPLETE
Isaiah holds a very big secret concerning end days,esp when studied with ELS programes,Johns,book within a book sealed until now has been opened,though computers today are only just barely capalbe of reading this programme
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interesting fact,a small broken parchment in the dead sea scroll finds stated only the words :you know Isaiah will survive;THIS WAS THE ONLY SCROLL FOUND COMPLETE
I love it! I was equally excited about Noah’s Ark being discovered. I was hoping the Turkish government would be too busy to guard it and explorers as well as researchers (me)can visit.
Mount Sinai isn’t guarded any longer but the fence is still there!
anneliesehuss i do hope you take time to search the sumerian writings though which are the earliest known writings of mankind.im sure you will find enlightenment in reading of the anunaki gods and their effect on humankind and maybe those doubts and questions can be revealed and the answers you seek may be found,another interesting fact is the oldest known spoken indigenous lanquage in australia and possibly the world has many similarities and stories in their history which is refered to as dreaming or the dreamtime to the christian world view of things
“anneliesehuss” you have discovered for yourself one of the many
inaccuracies contained in the Bible. The Bible is approximately 60% correct.
Unfortunately that means there is about 40% incorrect. Looks like you found
one of them.
spiratec9 wrote:
“anneliesehuss” you have discovered for yourself one of the many
inaccuracies contained in the Bible. The Bible is approximately 60% correct.
Unfortunately that means there is about 40% incorrect. Looks like you found
one of them.
Even if the Bible is 1% correct…as long as we have 100% of GOD’S POWER
in us…….
1 Corinthians 2:5 ¶ That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1 Corinthians 4:20 ¶ For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
i just noticed your reading from the NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION of the bible,this version was published by the same publishing co,Zondervan press if i recall correctly,who also publish the satanic bible among other heredic texts,there have been over a thousand changes or more in this version,the KING JAMES VERSION is by far the most accurate in its translation to english and therefore a far better bible to use if you should consider serious study,please do a google search under changes in the niv version and understand the dangers in reading this counterfeit version
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i just noticed your reading from the NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION of the bible,this version was published by the same publishing co,Zondervan press if i recall correctly,who also publish the satanic bible among other heredic texts,there have been over a thousand changes or more in this version,the KING JAMES VERSION is by far the most accurate in its translation to english and therefore a far better bible to use if you should consider serious study,please do a google search under changes in the niv version and understand the dangers in reading this counterfeit version
Oops! If that was for me akithma, I have a King James Version Bible soooooo…..
it wasn’t the New International Version I quoted from….
Interesting post………. I will look into the Zondervan Press for sure.
no it was in responce to anneliesehuss,s forth reply,she gave a us a link to her source material
AKITHMA wrote:
no it was in responce to anneliesehuss,s forth reply,she gave a us a link to her source material
Thanks for the correction….
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“anneliesehuss” you have discovered for yourself one of the many
inaccuracies contained in the Bible. The Bible is approximately 60% correct.
Unfortunately that means there is about 40% incorrect. Looks like you found
one of them.
Don’t get me wrong the 60% that is correct contains divine gems.
Not to be ignored.
Certainly no expert, but I always thought the Garden of Eden was the genesis of the tribes of Israel, was it not? Lots of other “peoples” were created all over the place, but the old testament is mostly about the origin journey of the Jewish people from Adam and Eve and on through Abraham. They were not the only people on earth, they were just the only ones who had a covenant with Jehovah.
The New Testament was built on a Messiaic Prophecy from the Old Testament, but really the New Testament is about the origin journey of the followers of Christ, no?
Only speculating, but one could view The KJV and other more modern versions as an attempt to “christianize” the “back-story” so to speak.
Please keep in mind that I am far from a theologian and would welcome any discussion here.
I wonder what happened to anneliesehuss? She isn’t replying to the latest posts. I hope all is well….
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footnotes not required as commanded rev 22;18-19 ,At least 70 times, the NIV omits GOD! * Jesus - 15; Christ - 25; Lord - 16; God - 13. *Somebody did not like Jesus, Christ, Lord, or God,in some cases whole passages are missing,anyway this is for those here who wish to understand the major difference
you will also be shocked with the publishers and tranlaters connections if you have time to research such things
dont take my word though ,google it
NIV Calls Lucifer, “Jesus”
Lucifer, Satan, NIV
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(1) Just about everybody knows the word “Lucifer” as another name for Satan. The word “Lucifer” is found one time in the King James Bible.
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
(2) But what about the NIV? The word “Lucifer” is clean, bald-headed gone and now this creature is identified as the “morning star”. Lucifer is the “morning star” in the NIV.
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
(3) So we know that in the NIV the “morning star” is a negative, evil figure. Right? He was fallen from heaven. He was cast down to the earth. Can we find the “morning star” anywhere else in the NIV? Yes! The following passages in the NIV show the “morning star” as Jesus Christ! But the NIV just called the fallen creature of Isaiah 14:12 “morning star”. Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV! Lord have mercy, Jesus! Help me, Lord.
NIV: Revelation 22:16,
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [1] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
NIV: 2 Peter 1:19,
And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
NIV: Revelation 2:28–
I will also give him the morning star.
im not here to preach but only wish to make people of the faith aware of these significant changes and perhaps reconsider there source material
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I’ve thought about it and I’ve come to this. God said he created man and so on and so forth, yes he did; but he did not say that this was the only man/woman he created…he said it was the first. So what I’m saying is the bible gives accounts of what has happened and what will come to pass…..it does not give EVERY ACCOUNT….Think about it….I think that makes perfect sense.
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InfoPRO wrote:
I wonder what happened to anneliesehuss? She isn’t replying to the latest posts. I hope all is well….
Im here, I havent gone anywhere, just to sleep, then I didnt get online in a while sorry
anneliesehuss wrote:
InfoPRO wrote:
I wonder what happened to anneliesehuss? She isn’t replying to the latest posts. I hope all is well….
Im here, I havent gone anywhere, just to sleep, then I didnt get online in a while sorry
Thank you for this post! I was getting a little worried….
ok…time for my beddie bye! L.O.L.!!
She was from East Hollywood. Just a guess.
The only posible answer to this time old question is to consider the fact that there WAS ONE OTHER woman besides Eve, and that was Lilith(the first wife of Adam). She was banished from eden for disobeying Adam amongst other evils, to the land of Nod. So in reality, Cain was boning his father’s ex-wife. Ponder this over, it’s the only logical explination. Other books of world religion describe similar, if not the same, to support this.
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