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The future of help!

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I was invited to the post but I got to it after it was closed because it grew so long. So I have feedback and I am starting a post and maybe if people agree, someone can share this with Admin!! I do have a systems/technology background and have also worked on web in the past so maybe this will be helpful.

I will post ideas and you can too if you have ideas about the site design and features! I think it is a good think! Great job Admin!!!

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (6 minutes after post)

I think the site is really good but here are the ideas I have had (I have done a lot of systems design and implementation so that is where my ideas are stemming from).

- About being able to edit posts/replies - I have not been comfortable than other users can edit the post of someone else. That leaves for changing the content and heart of a message. I think allow users to edit their own posts and replies.

- I think the person who posts something should be able to delete negative replies from their post and we should also be able to delete negatives from the shoutbox (maybe in the user profile, set up a flag that lets us select the number of days messages are in the shout or just let add a delete button so we can select which to delete.

- Some times there is so much useful information that I would like to be able to email from my post and its replies to myself. It would be great to be able to add a button to forward information to ourselves in email.

- I really like being able to invite users to posts - but it might be nice to set up a post that can be sent to your friends or fans or favorites as you choose for certain conversations you want to have with them - and then also be able to discuss posts with the general population.

- When posting, it will give a message that it can accept 5000 characters, Can you display the count so people know how much to edit?

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (10 minutes after post)

Jebus Zeus (CoalMan) wrote:
bann all Cincinnati users… woot

Today I am not in the mood for sarcasm and if you do not have anything productive to add to the discussion, then start another post of your own and talk about whatever problem you are experiencing. It bothers me that people come to help for a reason, because they are looking for support while some others just get on because they don’t have anything better to do that put people down. My experience is that happens because some times people can only feel better about themselves in putting someone else down. Regardless, the behavior should not be tolerated and the administrator should not have to spend valuable time dealing with this behavior.

I accept that not everyone likes me and I am far from perfect. I can accept that you do not like me and frankly I don’t care. So insult to your hearts content if that makes you feel better about your life. It would be far more productive however if you would ask for help to deal with your issues.

I am not going to be bullied today so this is as much as I will engage in this with you.

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (14 minutes after post)

- Like the helpbots! They give important information.

- I don’t know if there is a user guide of instructions but I am going to look around.

I have a few more ideas and will invite some people to this post. I have to take a break for a bit but will return later today.

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (20 minutes after post)

I hope the site will remain free! Just a couple additional thoughts before I forget.

- Maybe add a button to block a user from your posts for those. We’ve discussed stalkers and people that bring negative stuff to our posts and it would be nice to have a block feature. Admins shouldn’t have to spend precious time focusing on user behavior so put some of that back in the user’s hands.

- Can we post files and photos in an easy way and without infecting the site with virus issues.

Be back later.

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Setto? offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 8 months ago (49 minutes after post)

Jebus Zeus (CoalMan) wrote:
i’m currently happy with the way it is

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babacup offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 14 #
Indianapolis, IN, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (1 hour, 49 minutes after post)

I have not used other web sites where you talk to people on-line, so I do not have anything to compare it too. I think this site is laid out nicely and easy to use.

The only thing I read in yesterdays post and now in yours, that I would also like is to be able to do, is edit our own replies. I know I makes mistakes and then post again with the corrections. It would be nice just to be able to edit it.

I do not know if people have had problems with people editing their post. I am surprised that anyone can just edit someone’s post. I wonder what the reasoning for having that is?

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Midvale, UT, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (4 hours, 27 minutes after post)

I have read all replies on the first post and I decided I couldn’t form much of an opinion until I know exactly what changes we are speaking of. I am not really concerned yet and know that sometimes change can be good. There’s always room for improvement in anyone or anything.

I welcome anyone new and consider more brains and opinions a plus.

What about teens and younger having the option to be with people their age going through the same problems. With the option of speaking to adults when they need to.
Is there a way to monitor that, so they are safe?

Posts that are not complete should be canceled. Sometimes they don’t make sense.

Editing someones post should not be allowed, its just plain wrong. Its like changing someones song, or drawing, or poem. Its always gotta be from the posters heart.

Shouts don’t seem very private. Its kind of strange for everyone to know who you talk to and what about. I think it could invite unhealthy behavior in some types of people. Sort of like stalking. If a user fixated on someone, be it for religious statements, or political, or whatever it would be easy to follow them throughout their use and pick up all kinds of info.

Obvious people “playing”, being rude, immature behavior, and disruption of conversations should be stoppped. It screws up the flow of ideas and problem solving for people looking for answers in life.

Other than that, and Im sure things Im not thinking about, This could be great. Im sure there are alot of good ideas out there coming. I love this site and we all can help to make it better.

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cattail offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
Newark, NJ, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (4 hours, 52 minutes after post)

I’m fairly new here, but I do think you all have some great ideas for improvements… especially kneady and 2greeneyes… I can’t think of anything to add here! I didn’t realize that other people could edit our posts, and I agree shouts are not very private.

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~Shie~ offline Verified User (2 years, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 11 #
Gloversville, NY, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (4 hours, 59 minutes after post)

you go girl… you be our super hero to save our little family here at help.com.. yay…

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Fizz offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 8 months ago (5 hours, 21 minutes after post)

I agree 2greeneyes, others shouldn’t be allowed to edit someone elses post, unless the post author gives permission to do so. I’ve seen post that were fun because we have that feature, but I have also seen the feature abused on a couple of levels.

I do like being able to correct my typos on post and at times wish I could correct my typos on my replies, but I think that would leave things more open to feature abuse.

Shouts aren’t private and at times I felt it somewhat creepy thinking that others were reading conversations I was having with individuals, but I also think that the public nature of shouts keep people from really bad mouthing others and back stabbing, though I’m sure people do that anyway.

I like the idea of some of the rules being more clearly defined, because I do think that would resolve some issues. Especially with what is a perceived as a slant against christians (which even as well as I am treated, I have felt the slant myself, but I am not sure if it is intentional, as other Christians believe, frankly I just don’t know, but it’s a matter that should be looked into). Plainly and clearly both sides of the arguments have been wrong and there has been a lot of immaturity, but more clearly defined rules, might be an immense help in resolving issues. Oh I know you weren’t talking about just faith based post, but that is a real issue for me.

I personally like being able to talk to teens and being able to help them based on my experience, but I also believe that kids need to be protected, there are a lot of bad elements out there. Thing is the censors don’t always pick up somethings, so moderation is needed. The adults on this site have a responsibility to look out for the kids here. I think there should be a button you can click on if your post is of a mature nature.

This is for the most part a very good community with problems like any other community, I just hope that new policies and other changes will be firm, but fair.

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (7 hours, 34 minutes after post)

Shizuko-Sophie wrote:
I referance to users being able to delete replies to their post…

that should never be done.

Everyone has a right to express an oposing point of view as long as it falls within the site TOS.

Just because I can be stronly opinionated does not mean that I should not allow other users to express an opposing opinion to mine.

I have been taught to walways consider both sides of any discussion or argument for the simple reason that I can be wrong and in this way I can learn by dicussing issues rather than just trying to force my opinions on others.

If you strongly think a reply is inappropriate then report it and let the moderators decide if the reply warents deletion.

I don’t have any problems with opposing opinions or free expression but there are times when I’ve read posts and someone is very depressing and people say really hurtful things. The admins are so busy that I don’t think we should put the burdens on them. We could still report them, allow discussions but also perhaps keep in mind that some of us are reaching out and discussing feelings (which aren’t necessarily wrong or right - it is just how a person feels) so I think there are cases where we should be able to delete. Like I would have only deleted the one on this post that insulted Cincinnati users - as that was not helpful at all. I think sometimes too, people post under the ‘anonymous’ but you can figure out who they are in a couple of ways so I think we should either make get rid of that feature or let people have a chance to speak their piece with anon and then delete their own posts. That is just what I was thinking. I am sure whatever changes they make will take into considerationg what everyone is saying and they will make it fair.

I don’t like the current setup where you can post something and any other user can edit your post.

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (7 hours, 55 minutes after post)

I agree Shouts should be private because those are between two people. From a systems perspective it can get complicated trying to maintain a database where you are giving people all sorts of different rights so probably they’ll be best for future upgrading of the site to keep things consistent.

Maybe a spell-check would be easy to add. It might be nice to set up groups from your friends list (like who you want to invite to similar things like jokes or even a “select all” button because sometimes you want to invite all.

I notice the email alerts do not show up for invites or shouts - you sort of have to log in to see them so I sometimes fall behind in responding to things.

I don’t know how elaborate they want to get in terms of each person’s profile but perhaps adding a “Search” box so you can look for a particular topic or maybe one to search the web might help. Some other sites also have a link to a user directory but I am not sure with the number of users of this system that is feasible.

I have not used the Chat feature myself but it might be nice if we started scheduling chats for specific topics at specific times so people can talk. Maybe if there are professionals involved in the site, they could post a bulletin (which is maybe different than a post??) saying, at this time we’ll have a live chat on managing stress or dealing with depression or whatever topic is of interest. Not necessarily endorsed by Help.com but part of the user community, where users agree it is just additional help/conversation.

I also think maybe the Admins need a place to post notices to users - like if the system is undergoing maintenance or backups or whatever and they need people off at certain times.

I like this site, I love the support. I am not crazy about what I see as sarcasm. I think people should be able to have their own beliefs and that people shouldn’t jump to make fun of someone else just because we don’t know what other people are really living and words have power.

Some sites also have like a “Star” system which I sort of notice here as people reply with the buttons to add friends or number of shouts. But some use the stars to show usage or achievements. I haven’t worked on a site that does this myself so I don’t know how they figure that out - maybe number of posts/number of users helped. Then I don’t know who figures out who’s helped? Just because you rely doesn’t equal being helpful. I don’t think it is a contest but it might be nice I guess I am saying to know who is nice.

There are a couple of users I would like to block from my posts and be blocked from theirs because of problems with them that I won’t go into. That way we stay away from each other and everyone is happy.

I know that is my wish list and I trust them to balance out what Help.com needs and whatever changes they make, I am glad to have found the site. It has been a great source of support for me.

I agree with those who say we need to keep an eye on the younger users because of predators. I am not sure how to do that because people can lie about their age. Maybe someone with more experience there can help out. Then again, maybe that is a good reason to keep all things public here? I know MySpace was in the news for working on keeping young users safe online.

Thanks for all your great ideas. I am going to be heading off the computer shortly because I’m in a lot of pain from having to get some important documentation finished today.

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An²a offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 22 #
Springfield, IL, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (8 hours, 17 minutes after post)

People should be notified when they first get online if their friends list is updated.

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 1 year, 8 months ago (8 hours, 20 minutes after post)

That is a great idea - I happen into the Friend list ever so often and find a Favorite or Fan and don’t know how long they have been there.

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downtowndaisy offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 8 months ago (9 hours, 17 minutes after post)

Sounds like some great ideas. Yourabi is supposed to get back to us sometime this week or next with the changes, where then we’ll be allowed to give feedback. Can’t wait!

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Sanni offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Birmingham, A7, GB | 1 year, 8 months ago (1 week, 4 days after post)

I agree with the friends list as I was caught out with that one. It would be nice to have a I am not going to be on help for while. Similar to Lotus Notes out of office message, especially for invites. So, if friends have sent invites you can notify them that you are going to around for a while.

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