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what is it?

nancy.hardi wrote:
what is it?

oh well then i haven’t tried it sorry…

I downloaded acquired copy of the package (nudge nudge wink wink). I haven’t opened all the media that came with it, but it comes with some guided visualizations. There is very little to it. Reading the manual it was hard to get any instruction out of it. He mainly just explains how anxiety disorders work. His 9 pillars were pretty much useless:
1. Stop going to doctors
2. Get of medications
3. find yourself a hobby/distraction
4. Stop telling people you have an anxiety problem
5. Stop researching anxiety disorders
6. Only follow the linden method
7. Stop relying on others to help you with your disorder

etc.. etc…

As you can see, most of the advice can be dangerous as it cuts you off from the help that your looking for. I have been following most of that stuff since before I had anxiety anyway, and I still have problems. There are a few points of good advice in his method. I find the book long and lacks structure I’m looking for. Most of it is reading about Linden’s personal experience, and background information about anxiety. There are lots of parts I haven’t explored yet, and I think there are things like diversion tactics in there too.

To save you the trouble and expense of his method here is what I think would be the equivalent:
1. Get a book on cognitive behavioural therapy for anxiety/depression. Read it, understand the why, and the techniques for dealing with it.
2. Practic yoga, reiki, and other new age relaxation techniques.
3. Buy a relaxation cassette and listen to it once or more per day.
4. Get a hobby.
5. Be physically active.

There may be a few other gems of wisdom in his method but they are scattered throughout. I guess he wouldn’t be able to justify the cost if he streamlined the materials. I personally disagree with some of his advice. I think it may be best geared to those who suffer from panic attacks.

To clarify one of my points, Linden recommends you don’t seek elsewhere at all for help once you start his method, but a lot of the stuff you could find in a cognitive behavioural therapy book (which would probably be more helpful). The rest of the package is mostly guided relaxation, autobiography, and a summary of scientific understanding of anxiety disorders (with a strong non-medication bias).

It is not possible to be aware of your sub-conscious. This is a tautology. If you were aware of it it would not be sub-conscious. You can become aware of some of the things that are going on in your sub-conscious by analyzing your dreams or through psychotherapy, and you can change your subconscious by changing your attitudes and habits over time, or through hypnosis.

aashesinthefall, I’d like to ask you about your findings. I am not anxious right now as I am not in such a situation. I have been in the past though. I downloaded a torrent containing all the stuff linden charges for and found little to no substance. I am curious what exactly your recovery consisted of? Was it the guided relaxation, or specific principles and practices within the book? Please be specific.

anyone know what EFT is?

sfgs wrote:
it failed miserably for me, then i found EFT.

Who are you to say anything about my moral character? You don’t know me. Just because I disagree with you does not make me a bad person. I don’t have anxiety problems much at all anymore. If you are right about it having many tools to help recovery then reactivate your account and give one single example.

nora.lace wrote:
Are you really an anxiety sufferer? This method has EVERYTHING you need to recover. It is not as you say mostly about Linden’s personal experience, but provides many, many tools to help recovery. I have been doing it for a week now with amazing results. I hope people aren’t guided away from the help they need by your incomplete (and somewhat snotty) evaluation.

The beauty of this program is that it’s written in language we can all relate to, not in the confusing language of some cognitive behavioral book written by a doctor.

If you had taken the time to go through the material, you would have found out that Charles Linden used some of your suggestions before he cured himself with the method presented in the material. Your suggestions are good ones, but they are lacking, obviously, or you wouldn’t still be seeking answers. Maybe Linden’s method would help you, too, if you took the time to learn it and live it.

BTW, maybe your moral character could use some help, too (nudge nudge wink wink).

betta wrote:
I downloaded acquired copy of the package (nudge nudge wink wink). I haven’t opened all the media that came with it, but it comes with some guided visualizations. There is very little to it. Reading the manual it was hard to get any instruction out of it. He mainly just explains how anxiety disorders work. His 9 pillars were pretty much useless:
1. Stop going to doctors
2. Get of medications
3. find yourself a hobby/distraction
4. Stop telling people you have an anxiety problem
5. Stop researching anxiety disorders
6. Only follow the linden method
7. Stop relying on others to help you with your disorder

etc.. etc…

As you can see, most of the advice can be dangerous as it cuts you off from the help that your looking for. I have been following most of that stuff since before I had anxiety anyway, and I still have problems. There are a few points of good advice in his method. I find the book long and lacks structure I’m looking for. Most of it is reading about Linden’s personal experience, and background information about anxiety. There are lots of parts I haven’t explored yet, and I think there are things like diversion tactics in there too.

To save you the trouble and expense of his method here is what I think would be the equivalent:
1. Get a book on cognitive behavioural therapy for anxiety/depression. Read it, understand the why, and the techniques for dealing with it.
2. Practic yoga, reiki, and other new age relaxation techniques.
3. Buy a relaxation cassette and listen to it once or more per day.
4. Get a hobby.
5. Be physically active.

There may be a few other gems of wisdom in his method but they are scattered throughout. I guess he wouldn’t be able to justify the cost if he streamlined the materials. I personally disagree with some of his advice. I think it may be best geared to those who suffer from panic attacks.

I am interested in all facets of the human psychological-spiritual condition due to major dysfunction in my family. So I have read a lot and attended a lot of workshops and therapy groups. Most suicides, alcoholics, smokers, and other addicts have a long history of anxiety and depression (so I have been told). So this Linden fellow caught my attention when I stumbled upon his video on youTube and followed his url link to his sales page. So let’s now talk about moral character …. As long as a person is capable of paying his rent and other necessities of life by using his many skills and abilities I hardly think that he should go around charging $99. for information that could save people from the hell of anxiety and the brink of suicide. If he truly gave a hoot about human beings and their agonizing suffering he wouldn’t be charging for information that could save people from misery. He could charge for personal consultation, or teleconferences to help people over the hard parts like all the rest of the internet gurus are doing!!!!!!!!!!

Certainly every human being needs to earn money, but there are hundreds of ways to do so other than through selling so called “special, unique, effective” health information to desperate human beings! Information regarding health and healing does not belong to the individual who claims to have “discovered” it; it belongs to the world. Not only that, the reality is that nobody “discoveres” anything without borrowing (nudge nudge wink wink )wisdom and knowledge from other writers, therapists, scientists and speakers. Every scientist, healer, doctor or all around guru has gotten where he/she is off of the sweat, blood, tears and backs of his culture and predecessors! That’s how society PROGRESSES!!!!!! If this Linden fellow was a really and truly enlightened and highly moral guy he would take the high road, he would take the chance that the Universe would find a way for him to support his “research” and information-publishing-efforts in some other way.

And kudos to the guy who downloaded the material (torrents) and did some research and published his opinions for the rest of us to see. Now that’s the high road if you ask me! I am so sick of paying for hyped-up special secret cures that are just a bunch of re-packaged, re-regurgitated chicken soup. If the methods really do heal people the guy would be rich simply on freely given donations and generous contributions to his cause. Trust me, that’s how a lot of us make OUR living! And yes, we all owe the information-pirates a huge debt of gratitude. We wouldn’t be here without them!