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How to be a Christian on Help.com.

I’m not going to say that I have all the answers, because I don’t, but I have found that I can be a Christian and be on this site without having the problems that others have had. I’m not saying that I haven’t had moments; there are times that I have been upset by how others have been treated. The personal attacks against Christians, the mocking of our faith by others have also hurt my feelings and people making jokes about Christ have angered me, even when I don’t say a word against it. It has also bothered me how some Christians have behaved, because I feel that we are all judged by the actions of a few. We must rise above this; we must behave as Christ would want us to behave.

I won’t say that I am perfect, I have failed on a number of occasions, on those occasions I have asked the Lord to forgive me and now I ask that my brethren forgive me as well.

I know that many feel their duty to God is more important then following the rules of man, and I would agree, but when we joined this site we agreed that we would follow the site rules and to do other wise would show that we are liars and that is a sin.

So how do we do both, how do we do our Christian duty, while following the rules of this site? First we have to understand the rules, there has been talk of more clearly defined rules and I have hope that will be achieved, but until such time we have to understand the rules as they are written right now.

Here is the pertinent information from the TOS:

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We may terminate your right to use our website at any time, for any reason, and without notice. We will terminate your right to use our website if you violate any of these Terms of Service or any other policy posted on our website, or if we become aware that you are infringing any copyright or other intellectual property right of any party.

When posting or transmitting Content or otherwise using our website, you agree that you will not:

Harass, defame, intimidate or threaten another user;

(There has been some question about the TOS not stating the religious policy, but the line that says “any other policy posted on our website” covers that. The religious policy for help.com is located here http://help.com/faq#sect19)

When you continually witness to those that have asked you not to that is harassment and you are violating the TOS and as I have already said, you are also sinning against GOD because you agreed to follow those rules when joining.

Here is the religious policy as written in the FAQ section:

Help.com is not a religious website and it is not affiliated with any religious group. However, Help.com is as appropriate a forum as any for general questions about religion, or questions that ask for a religious perspective on a problem. We welcome people who are inspired by their faith to help others and we recognize that many people find solutions through spirituality. At the same time, Help.com attempts to balance this with an equal recognition of everyone’s right to not have religious philosophy forced upon them.

As a courtesy to our international community, we encourage Help.com users to follow guidelines for mentions of religion in their questions and replies.

Don’t hide your faith, just avoid the “hard sell” of actually proselytizing and quoting scripture with the intent of winning converts.

Never attack other religious faiths, or a person’s lack of spirituality.

Never condemn anyone else’s behavior or life choices in religious terms, unless that other person clearly indicates they are open to hearing religious judgment.

Limit suggesting religious solutions for problems to only posts where the original writer of a question has indicated an openness to discussing spirituality.

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Avoid the “hard sell” is one that many have trouble understanding and following because it is our Christian duty to win souls for the Lord, but the fact of the matter is that, we can’t win souls by doing that anyway, so it’s pointless not to obey this rule. You can’t witness to anyone if they are so turned off by your presence that they don’t even want to be around you. Let your light shine, show that you are willing to speak to everyone on matters of faith if they come to, let them know that you are a Christian and available to lead them to the Lord if they so choose, but don’t force the issue. (I know that I could have worded this paragraph a whole lot better, lol)

If you are being attacked by a non-believer for your faith, report them to the Mods because they are violating the TOS in doing so, but don’t fight or bicker with them because we are supposed to turn the other cheek. I’m not saying be a doormat, because I don’t think that I can even be accused of being one of those, but we must be careful in taking our stands, everything that we say and do should be in love and with the greatest of respect for others. We must set ourselves apart and show that we are different, that what we have is worth having and we can’t do that by getting in a down and dirty fight with a non-believer or pushing and pushing and pushing our Christian agenda, it just doesn’t work that way.

If you feel that you have been wronged by a Mod, report them to an Admin, but do try to understand that being a Mod is not an easy job.

I hope that this post is not offensive to non-Christians and I hope that you understand that I am posting this in an effort to help those that are struggling with this issue. If anyone has any other insights on this matter I welcome them, but I ask that everyone be respectful and understanding.

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cookies and cream offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 55 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (8 minutes after post)

Good post Fizz :)

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imchris3 offline Verified User (5 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (10 minutes after post)

I wholeheartedly agree, without my faith, I AM NOTHING

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (10 minutes after post)

Thanks Cookies, I think I could have worded somethings better, but I hope it helps.

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Ditzy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
Ventura, CA, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (16 minutes after post)

excellent post Fizz :) Im a non-Christian but fully respect others religions (and it didnt offend me) … Im not actually sure wot religion I belong to any more but that is my road to walk and find :)

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MamaBear {Felicity} online Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 230 #
An Unknown Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (18 minutes after post)

To anyone who is interested in knowing what a True Christian is,She’s right here.She speaks the truth and we are in total agreement.

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (27 minutes after post)

Wow, thanks Ditzy didn’t really expect the Mod support, lol.

I hope you find the right path for you, I know it’s a very personal road.

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MamaBear {Felicity} online Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 230 #
An Unknown Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (28 minutes after post)

Fizz, It seems this post was very needed.So thank you and thank you for being a perfect example for all Christians.I personally haven’t had any problems as far as being reported. I guess it’s because I’m not one to quote scripture. Not that I’m against it,it’s just that we have different ways of sharing, And I don’t have that gift . Actually I had not read the TOS until now.So, thanks again,I could not have said it nearly as good.

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (32 minutes after post)

I can quote scripture with the best of them and I have done so on a number of occassions on this site when it is appropriate, I have not quoted scripture to non-believers because it goes against the rules of this site. Thank you for your kind words Kim.

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An Unknown Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (36 minutes after post)

I’m sure you can, you have a true knack of expressing yourself extremely well.Bless You sis

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (39 minutes after post)

On second thought I think that sounded a bit conceited of me, I just meant that I have studied the bible a lot and for a long time. I’m also pretty good at searching for scriptures.

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (52 minutes after post)

Good post and very needed for some people, example me.Just don’t come up with what religion you are, cause you’ll always have some critics and attacks (rules are somehow meant to be broken) so come on clear be honest with you religion of expression or whatever else or just don’t say what religion you are cause you’ll feel attacked by ignorants. I truly respect it

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (1 hour, 8 minutes after post)

Well I think most people know my views on religion :S
I avoid most religious post like the plague only because I have at some many times had it pushed in my face.
I am not religious but I respect other people and in that I respect what they belive and only want the same in return.
So in reading all this I say well worded Fizz, Great post :)

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (1 hour, 22 minutes after post)

Thanks Daze, that means a lot coming from you. There are a few things that I don’t like my wording on and I hope that someone comes along that can state them better.

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DaNi♠HaTes♠You online Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 31 #
Parsonsburg, MD, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 17 minutes after post)

Wow, I actually read every word of all that.

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 19 minutes after post)

lol, Hi Dani! I thought about inviting you, but I figured you’d find your way here on your own. Honored you read every word.

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Parsonsburg, MD, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 21 minutes after post)

Well, you should be honored because I don’t get past the first word on long post’s and i actually agree with this post

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 25 minutes after post)

Truth is I usually skip the long post and long replies myself if I can, but I didn’t know how to shorten this one without missing the important points.

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 30 minutes after post)

it is our Christian duty to win souls for the Lord

I thought it was one’s Christian duty to love thy neighbour and, in so doing, “shine before men that they may see your good works”? That, according to Matthew, what “glorifies your Father”. I don’t recall Jesus ever asking for a person’s soul, either in this life or the next. You make Christianity sound like some sort of spiritual war. Strange perspective for a religion founded by a man who continually extolled the virtues of love and peace.

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Cincinnati, OH, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 42 minutes after post)

Excellent post. I will share this with a few friends who I think were discussing this. I think this makes it very clear!

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 45 minutes after post)

TJ Riddle wrote:

it is our Christian duty to win souls for the Lord

I thought it was one’s Christian duty to love thy neighbour and, in so doing, “shine before men that they may see your good works”? That, according to Matthew, what “glorifies your Father”. I don’t recall Jesus ever asking for a person’s soul, either in this life or the next. You make Christianity sound like some sort of spiritual war. Strange perspective for a religion founded by a man who continually extolled the virtues of love and peace.

I think that you have taken me quite wrong, we have many duties as Christians and I do agree with you that we are to love thy neighbor as Christ so love the Church and that is a great part of my overall point.

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (2 hours, 54 minutes after post)

I refer to this scripture as an explanation for my choice of words regarding soul winning, if someone has a better wording then I can accept and will appreciate them.

Luke 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.

Of course I think that compel is often misunderstood, it means to persuade.

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Gloversville, NY, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 5 minutes after post)

wow, what a smart cookie you are.. i have no offense to anyone about their religion or no religion, color, race or sexuality… people are people and i believe that a person’s attitude is what makes me like them or not like them..

and i have to say that you have made a great post here… its like you have explained the rules of the site in words that people can actually understand about religion.. as i said.. i am a person who wants people to have their own beliefs.. its great.. and i have actually found that with my circumstances with my kids… people telling me that they will pray for me and my kids.. or that we are in their prayers… may have actually worked.. like god actually heard the prayers finally… after hearing so many of them about the same situation..and im so appreciated over that… however with people who as you say… try to push their beliefs upon someone and then get upset because we have our own beliefs.. then that is wrong..

i have to say… im not a church goer anymore.. i have my beliefs in god.. but do not want anyone preaching to me… just like i wouldnt want anyone that doesnt believe in god to preach to me about their beliefs… to each their own… its the preaching part that offends myself… and as i said.. religious or non religious… either way of preaching really bugs me.. so its not just one certain religion..

so again.. as you said.. asking for religious references is different than trying to push religion onto someone… and it makes a difference whether you are warned or booted.. so hopefully, those people who have been warned with pushing their beliefs onto others will take notice of your post.. because it is very well done…

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Lebanon, TN, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 7 minutes after post)

Fizz,

Fizz wrote:
I refer to this scripture as an explanation for my choice of words regarding soul winning, if someone has a better wording then I can accept and will appreciate them. Luke 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.Of course I think that compel is often misunderstood, it means to persuade.

I thought also of Matt 28 verse 18-20 The Great commission but I do not believe Jesus would want us to bully people into believeing. As we both know that doesn’t work. I do quote scripture occationally but the way I see it if someone doesn’t believe in God they also don’t believe in the Bible. I think Love thy neighbor is probably one of the best don’t you. That would solve it all wouldn’t it.

good Post

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (7 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 87 #
Midvale, UT, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 10 minutes after post)

Nice post Fizz
I respect all religions. If someone wants to worship a tree, who am I to tell them what’s right.
Common respect and courtesy to all opinions and beliefs would make the world such a beautiful place.

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Ditzy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
Ventura, CA, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 11 minutes after post)

2greeneyes wrote:
If someone wants to worship a tree, who am I to tell them what’s right.

hehehe great way of saying it Greeneyes :D

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Fizz offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 79 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 15 minutes after post)

Thanks Shi, you aren’t so bad yourself!

Excellent scripture, thank you Christian and I agree that Jesus wouldn’t want us to bully people.

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Gloversville, NY, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 19 minutes after post)

Fizz wrote:
Thanks Shi, you aren’t so bad yourself!

you just havent seen me mad yet…. lmfao..

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 31 minutes after post)

♀lil_bit_shi♀ wrote:

Fizz wrote:
Thanks Shi, you aren’t so bad yourself!

you just havent seen me mad yet…. lmfao..

Give me time, lol

My husband says that I am natually offensive, lol

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Shie offline Verified User (11 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 236 #
Gloversville, NY, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 39 minutes after post)

lol… well, i havent seen it… thats a good thing… lol..

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 1 week ago (4 hours, 12 minutes after post)

Here is a problem. There is a particular Christian user of this site, that has had problems with non-Christians. I cannot say whether or not they deserved those problems because frankly I do not know them very well, but I do know they come on very strong.

Recently they made a post about trying to understand the TOS better so they as a Christian would know how to post and reply, it degraded into an argument because of past issues with other users and was closed before their questions could be answered. I would have liked for the questions to be answered because it would also help me in my own post, but for the most part, I think I do ok.

I invited them to this post to try to help them have their question answered, but they won’t reply to my post because they do not want intrude and have their past issues follow them here. I really respect that, but I think it’s really sad.

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Toronto, ON, CA | 5 months, 1 week ago (5 hours, 30 minutes after post)

I am not a christian poster, but I think the tos should be more clear about the behaviour of non-religious people too. I have seen a couple times when trolls have taken over religious posts, disagreeing with everything and spamming the thread to the point where religious points of view are drowned out, or trying to instigate an argument.

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Winnipeg, MB, CA | 5 months, 1 week ago (5 hours, 31 minutes after post)

I am a Christian. So I can help only as a Christian. Because that is what I am. Each person helps in the ways they know how. They offer help in the way they would like to receive help. I will sometimes advise people to seek help from a church or pray for someone or give some other Christian advice. I always stop if the poster indicates they don’t want that type of help. I don’t think it is fair for other users to tell me to not give Christian help/advice when the poster is accepting of what I’m saying. Some posters are open to Christian advice/help.

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Lebanon, TN, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (5 hours, 48 minutes after post)

Being a christian encompasses everything about me. I don’t believe we should push when they do not want us to. Jesus didn’t do that. I understand how cell feels. Also My first post was attacked like betta indicated. I almost didn’t stay here because of that.

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Indianapolis, IN, US | 5 months, 1 week ago (6 hours, 12 minutes after post)

Fizz, I think this is a good post. I think it is helpful in understanding where the line gets crossed in regards to religious replies or post. I think a lot of people struggle spiritual and there are ways to help them with out pushing your views on them.

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