Life after death?
yes, no, maybe so?
What forms the basis for the belief it exists? What forms the basis for the belief that it doesn’t?
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I think there is an after life…only because I cant comprehend not “being”.
I’d like to think so, but probably not. :(
but what makes you think that?
That is the key question in this.
i am sure of it. otherwise, what would be the point of us being here at all? if we have nothing to strive for, why live? there’s gotta be something after.
I can’t tell you to believe the Bible, but I can promise you that if you study it enough you will be content with the answer it provides.
Anonymous wrote:
I can’t tell you to believe the Bible, but I can promise you that if you study it enough you will be content with the answer it provides.
If the bible forms the basis to your notions, why do you accept it as true?
Oooh, that’s a very deep question, and having had no sleep I probably can’t get too deep…
I’d give it a definite maybe. I think it’s just human nature to need to believe that there must be something after this life… it’s hard for us to think this is all there is… and if so, why? What’s the purpose then, if we’re just here, we die, then nothing ?? In fact, if we believed there’s nothing more, what’s the point of even living ?? So we need to believe….
And it just doesn’t make sense anyway… how and why we’re here… it can’t all be for nothing. How did we get here? There has to be something. I just accept that the answers are really beyond what my small human brain can comprehend really, but I believe there’s something.
I tend to believe in souls and spirits continuing on, and this is but a short stop on to bigger journeys, with lessons to be learned… that there is some purpose, that there is some reason…
Commander Ikari wrote:
but what makes you think that?That is the key question in this.
*shrugs* It was just the way I was brought up, can’t find any proof to back it, so I figure it’s unlikely.
Nightowl wrote:
I think there is an after life…only because I cant comprehend not “being”.
Me too, Nightowl.
There is life after death. Beautiful life.
tjthompson10 wrote:
There is life after death. Beautiful life.
that link puts out statements, not why that is true
I think a life exist, but I think that life is based upon your previous life.
Please help me: http://help.com/post/147268-should-i
Anonymous wrote:
I think a life exist, but I think that life is based upon your previous life.Please help me: http://help.com/post/147268-should-i
Commander Ikari wrote:
tjthompson10 wrote:
There is life after death. Beautiful life.that link puts out statements, not why that is true
Why is it true? Because our Heavenly Father has sacrificed His Son so that we can all be resurrected as Christ was. There is no end to life, just mortality.
Ikari,I believe in eternal life through Christ. I believe in what the Bible tells me. Why is your question I believe. Honestly I can’t explain I just have faith that its true.
I was listening to a Christian radio station the other day and they where talking about a evangelist that onced said (I am not sure if these are the exact words but it went something like this):
“I believe in Christ but what if its not true you ask, the way I see it If I believe and it is not true I have lost nothing but if I don’t believe and it is true I have lost everything.”
Like I said I can’t remember if that is exactly how it went but that is the just of it. I thought it to be a powerful statement.Anyway again, I just have faith that it is real. I hope you get the answer you are seeking.:)
It’s called Pascal’s Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal’s_Wager). It’s very classic.
For some reason the URL I copied and pasted is bad… ? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%2…
tjthompson10 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think a life exist, but I think that life is based upon your previous life.Please help me: http://help.com/post/147268-should-i
Commander Ikari wrote:
tjthompson10 wrote:
There is life after death. Beautiful life.that link puts out statements, not why that is true
Why is it true? Because our Heavenly Father has sacrificed His Son so that we can all be resurrected as Christ was. There is no end to life, just mortality.
Yes, this is the dogma. HOW do you personally know from experience that this is true?
tjthompson10 wrote:
It’s called Pascal’s Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal’s_Wager). It’s very classic.
It’s not there, but it’s here: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pas…
florie wrote:
tjthompson10 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think a life exist, but I think that life is based upon your previous life.Please help me: http://help.com/post/147268-should-i
Commander Ikari wrote:
tjthompson10 wrote:
There is life after death. Beautiful life.that link puts out statements, not why that is true
Why is it true? Because our Heavenly Father has sacrificed His Son so that we can all be resurrected as Christ was. There is no end to life, just mortality.
Yes, this is the dogma. HOW do you personally know from experience that this is true?
The Spirit bears witness of it. I know that I have a Heavenly Father because He is my Father.
tjthompson10 wrote:
florie wrote:
tjthompson10 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think a life exist, but I think that life is based upon your previous life.Please help me: http://help.com/post/147268-should-i
Commander Ikari wrote:
tjthompson10 wrote:
There is life after death. Beautiful life.that link puts out statements, not why that is true
Why is it true? Because our Heavenly Father has sacrificed His Son so that we can all be resurrected as Christ was. There is no end to life, just mortality.
Yes, this is the dogma. HOW do you personally know from experience that this is true?
The Spirit bears witness of it. I know that I have a Heavenly Father because He is my Father.
You believe …
well i don’t accept the bible as true. nor do i accept the doctrines or traditions of any other religion as fact.
life after death is a topic i’ve been wondering to myself since eighth grade, and i have yet to find a suitable or definite answer. in the end, i know that the truth of the answer does not matter to me at all. either yes or no would not affect my life in the least bit. i am living my life in accordance with what makes the world an enjoyable place for myself and others. perhaps it is merely a convenient thing that helping people makes me feel secure and loved, but if there is an absolute “right” or “wrong”, i believe i am going down the correct path.
i think i would enjoy life after death, since i’ve loved this life so far and it would be wonderful to be able to access my free will again after death. however, if i simply died and ceased to exist, i think that would be very peaceful. i will return to the earth again like every living thing should. physically, the energy that once kept me alive is now released into the universe, according the first thermodynamic rule that you can neither create nor destroy energy. to me, that thought is as comforting as saying that a loving man who looks like zeus is waiting for me at the other end of the white light. :)
Anonymous wrote:
I can’t tell you to believe the Bible, but I can promise you that if you study it enough you will be content with the answer it provides.
i think it’s slightly humorous that studying the bible is one of the main reason why i left christianity. sorry :)
I don’t find it comforting at all to think I might return as a nice little rabbit or something. Or even worse, having my molecules spread all over the universe. I wanna be me!!!! Otherwise it doesn’t count. :(
florie wrote:
I don’t find it comforting at all to think I might return as a nice little rabbit or something. Or even worse, having my molecules spread all over the universe. I wanna be me!!!! Otherwise it doesn’t count. :(
what doesn’t count? your body isn’t what makes you YOU. all bodies decay and provide life for the rest of the world. that’s just the way nature works.
iamozy wrote:
florie wrote:what doesn’t count? your body isn’t what makes you YOU. all bodies decay and provide life for the rest of the world. that’s just the way nature works.
I don’t find it comforting at all to think I might return as a nice little rabbit or something. Or even worse, having my molecules spread all over the universe. I wanna be me!!!! Otherwise it doesn’t count. :(
Uh huh, but I’m talking about “continuing!”
:) just you, or everybody else too?
living forever? well i want to be able to die someday. i don’t want to grow old and never die, or stay young and watch my loved ones die.
someday i want to be able to lie down and just be, in peace for the rest of eternity. :)
but living for a very long time wouldn’t be so bad!
but if you’re dead you won’t be “in peace” - you won’t be “in anything”
that sounds pretty peaceful to me. do rocks worry about acing their calculus final? do they worry about marraige, mortage, or kids? do they need twenty five years of education to achieve their dreams?
someday it will be a beautiful process to just be able to let go and never regret a thing.
What I’m saying is, if you don’t exist anymore there will be no one there to be peaceful, crazy, happy, sad, or regretful! Just nothing!!
The Lord reigns 4 ever.
No Jesus No peace
Know Jesus Know Peace
I don’t think you get what I’m saying. I don’t want to live forever in this body that gets old. I don’t want to live ever in regret or loneliness! I’m talking about “after” this life – I don’t want to be annihilated, know what I mean? I want to still exist (and know that I exist).
i dunno, florie. i guess to me existing nowhere is the same as existing everywhere. either way, you can’t point to something and say “it is here.”
to me, nothing is more important than happiness in life. you know that lion king phrase, hakuna matata? or the beatles’ “let it be”? that’s pretty much my motto for life. i’ll deal with the afterlife or the lack thereof when i get to it. who knows? maybe i’ll get there sooner than i think? or maybe death will pass over me for a very long time.
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bz1v4shm2wn9qx wrote:
The Lord reigns 4 ever.No Jesus No peace
Know Jesus Know Peace
how does this account for Buddhist monks, the most peaceful people ever?
Nightowl wrote:
I think there is an after life…only because I cant comprehend not “being”.
iamozy, I’m with you – “happiness in life” is good!!! Then I’m hoping there’s an “afterlife” like Nightowl says, because I can’t believe I (not my body, but I) will someday not exist.
That’s a valid question, and it’s kinda a hard one to answer, no one knows for sure that there is an after life, but one can put thier trust in the one person who has been there, and the only God who lives there.
Buddhist monks, have a sense of peace, but they do not have an inner peace in the way that Jesus can give. I am not trying to make this post into anything more than simply trying to address some issues presented here, Monks, rely on on thier own wisdom and thier own capasity to come up with realistic and simplistic goals for daily living. Not everyone is called to be a monk and live thier life in chastity so how could they possibly know inner peace that loving someone else can bring? or the heartache and how to deal with it? ( Slightly veering, sorry) but the fact of the matter remains, that we came from somewhere… and we have to “go” somewhere.
Science has even concluded that we have a “spirit” mind, a conscience that works outside the realm of our human body… why? Where did that come from? What purpose does that serve? If we are born from nature, just random atoms that perfectly are put together by happenstance, then what purpose does a higher level of consciousness play when it interacts with our chemicals in our bodies and generates the feelings of love, gratitude, hate, greed, power, submission?
these questions all are linked together and lead us to the question that you asked..
because I know I am a created being by something higher than myself, with reasonings and wisdoms far greater than my own, and something far greater than “nature” because whom ever created us, was flawless, they never got it wrong. Nature produces flaws all the time… but as you live and breathe, the truth is staring right back at you in the mirror…
We know there is an after life because we exist. We are the proof of it, and the truth is solidified in our belief in the evidence and the foundation for our growth in a book called the bible. Our spirits are hope driven, this hope guides us towards faith and belief in the words set out beyond the generations. It is unyielding, and although man has altered it somewhat, the message remains throughout history of time… As Hope grows, so our faith grows… and as our faith matures, we are actually shown very tangible proofs of the existence of an after life, through the teachings of God Himself…
i have personally had an out of body experience… have spent time with my grandfather at this very moment in which i found out my dad was dying long before his doctors did.. the feeling was very welcoming… nothing but love, peace and happiness… there was no hate, no drama of any kind… it was truly amazing.. i have the ability to see visions of spirits and know for a fact that there is life after death…
florie wrote:
Nightowl wrote:
I think there is an after life…only because I cant comprehend not “being”.iamozy, I’m with you – “happiness in life” is good!!! Then I’m hoping there’s an “afterlife” like Nightowl says, because I can’t believe I (not my body, but I) will someday not exist.
but sometimes hope is merely that, just hope.
i wonder what would happen if there was no life after death… just before you died, would you realize that you’ve spent all this time thinking about and preparing for the afterlife just to find out it doesn’t exist a second before death?
or do you slowly expire, your mind prepared and expecting the next life as death takes your last breath away, never suspecting a thing? by the time you would have realized there is no life after death, you wouldn’t exist anymore to experience that realization…
sometimes nonexistence seems a little less complicated than existence. there’s so many rules and limitations of existence, such as simple things like gravity and logic. nonexistence has none of these because our little minds cannot grasp it. as long as my existence is good, then nonexistence is perfectly fine by me.
ruint wrote:
as long as my existence is good, then nonexistence is perfectly fine by me.
Boy, I could never say this! Non-existence is not acceptable!!! :)
[quote ruint… just before you died, would you realize that you’ve spent all this time thinking about and preparing for the afterlife just to find out it doesn’t exist a second before death?
or do you slowly expire, your mind prepared and expecting the next life as death takes your last breath away, never suspecting a thing? by the time you would have realized there is no life after death, you wouldn’t exist anymore to experience that realization…
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That’s it… if there is nothing after this life, we’ll never know it… THE END.
florie wrote:
ruint wrote:
as long as my existence is good, then nonexistence is perfectly fine by me.Boy, I could never say this! Non-existence is not acceptable!!! :)
why not?
besides if nonexistence is what will meet you in the end, you really have no say in the matter. nor will you ever know.
ruint wrote:
florie wrote:
ruint wrote:
as long as my existence is good, then nonexistence is perfectly fine by me.Boy, I could never say this! Non-existence is not acceptable!!! :)
why not?
besides if nonexistence is what will meet you in the end, you really have no say in the matter. nor will you ever know.
I’m still not happy about the idea!!!
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