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Could string theory validate many things currently deemed “supernatural”?

I just listened to an online lecture on theortical physics and string theory, with its implications about other dimensions. Lecture noted below:

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/vi...

The speaker describes how string theory evolved from Einstein’s notions of gravity and space-time, to the point where they are speculating about 11 different dimensions in the universe that energy can manifest in, and how they are looking to experiment in moving energy from one dimension to another in the next 5 years.

Imagine what could stem from this…

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ben_j_richard offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 75 #
GB | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (29 minutes after post)

Its an interesting idea……. Generally most “supernatural” things have no basis in science. But However there might be some effects of energy gravity or temperal fluctuations on the small scale.

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Richard cor de lyon offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 96 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (30 minutes after post)

Pretty cool. I noticed it was filmed in 2005, I wonder what some more current results of that sort of testing might have revealed. On an esoteric level of course, this sort of thing has long been taught, with Quantum Physics catching up to that in only the last couple of decades or so.

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An Unknown Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (48 minutes after post)

I like the part at 13.50.
That if those numbers where a tiny bit different, we wouldn’t exist.

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Maybe we can learn how to travel true wormsholes afterall :P

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betta offline Verified User (1 year, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Toronto, ON, CA | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (4 hours, 41 minutes after post)

While most supernatural phenomenon can be attributed to overactive imaginations or things explainable within currently accepted science, maybe in some cases where people are clairvoyant/psychic for real, or demonic/ghostly/angelic encounters occur, maybe those could be attributed to inter-dimensional travelers. Maybe Doctor Who will one day be science fact.

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Cincinnati, OH, US | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (4 hours, 44 minutes after post)

My speakers are unplugged from my last computer repair and I can’t get behind the desk to plug it back in so I will try to find a PC to listen to the lecture when I can. I don’t know much about string theory but I do know a lot about the supernatural. It’s always been part of who I am. I know there are multiple planes of existence and that we are more than the physical body. I will try to find a place to listen to this and let you know if I have anything to add. I guess my initial thought is many people need to explain life and experience in scientific terms and measurable things (as a society many people have faith which is interesting because it is something that can’t be seen or measured yet have trouble understanding or accepting people like me who are different. I have always seen spirit and energy; had visions; have worked as a psychic and medium and healer. I have figured out what I believe and am open to hearing opinions like this and believe we all are entitled to decide what we can believe (without criticism). I’ll be interested in listening to this, thanks for the invite!

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BrighterBlessing offline Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cincinnati, OH, US | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (4 hours, 48 minutes after post)

I do have one question - there was another post on supernatural things and I noticed the discussion went all over the place. It then occurred to me, “How do we define Supernatural”???

I don’t know if that is mentioned in the lecture since I can’t listen to it right now but would be intereted in hearing your thoughts on it! Does it mean anything unexplained? Spirits? Hauntings? Psychic ability? I didn’t ask on the other post though it occurred to me I should have so I will ask it here. It is good to know we are all talking about the same thing! have a nice evening!

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (6 hours, 58 minutes after post)

I assume that you’re referring to the theory that string cheese is not really cheese at all, but some kind of processed quasi-edible product of marketing?

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The Astro-Man offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (7 hours, 6 minutes after post)

I’ve been thinking about this ever since I heard about string theory a couple years ago. It makes sense that what we’ve been calling our ’souls’ all this time could actually be extremely tiny particles smaller than atoms and that these strings, when found together in one spot, could make up things like our ideas of ‘heaven,’ which further perpetuates the idea that heaven is different for each person depending on how they perceive it.

Also, as annlovestars mentioned, it could open up numerous possibilities for things we’ve never before thought possible, such as interstellar travel, or even teleportation. Maybe even time travel (though I personally believe that to be altogether impossible).

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (7 hours, 9 minutes after post)

Also, thanks TTT for that link to the TED site on my post those many weeks ago. I’ve been watching some of the lectures and most of what everyone has to say is excellent. I’m very excited to watch this particular string theory lecture, as I haven’t watched it just yet.

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An Unknown Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (7 hours, 16 minutes after post)

As some of you know, i am both a christian and somewhat enamored of kurzweil’s theory of an imminent technological singularity, two seemingly incongruous viewpoints. I have always intuitively believed that our perspective of space (spacetime) is only one of many, that our universe could be subatomic in someone else’s reality and vice versa. Now thanks to tictactotum and the astro-man, i’ll be spending non-money-earning time watching these lectures! Just for the record, fact not theory, string cheese isn’t cheese, and silly string isn’t string. Not in this dimension at least.

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (7 hours, 17 minutes after post)

Sorry. Not to spam the thread or anything, but I was just reminded of this quote by (the sadly late) Arthur C. Clarke:

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

which of course applies to the ’supernatural.’ Once we make the possibilities of string theory a reality, we’ll soon be just as necromancers raising the dead, and distant travellers carrying enchanted maps. Already we have the ability to communicate to people across oceans with the touch of a button. We can get into our cars or airplanes or hop on a train or a bus to take us vast distances in mere hours. We’ve gone to the moon, of all places. With string theory, our possibilities are virtually limitless.

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 30 minutes after post)

have you looked into the latest experiments done with monotomic gold,philosophers stone, highward fire stone,white powder gold,i think you may find the results of interest,it has been termed exotic matter!

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 34 minutes after post)

AKITHMA wrote:
have you looked into the latest experiments done with monotomic gold,philosophers stone, highward fire stone,white powder gold,i think you may find the results of interest,it has been termed exotic matter!

Do you have a source, or are you being sarcastic?

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AKITHMA offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 15 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 46 minutes after post)

no i cant offer you one at present but i shall look into it for you tommorrow and send you some links,its been two years at least since i last looked into this ,there are quite deeper issues related to this alchemy science of old

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 48 minutes after post)

it will certainly open your eyes when you begin to understand the total!that i can promise

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AKITHMA offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 15 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 56 minutes after post)

however iam not at position to explain the whole details on help for there be a dark door which layeth at the end of this coriidor and it will take some understanding and gnosis to embrace the outcome beyond,however i shall find some source material in connection to dimensional pathways ,it may take some time tho,so be a little be patient, shout me if i forget,as iam quite busy of late

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (19 hours, 58 minutes after post)

Yup, he’s being sarcastic.

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AKITHMA offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 15 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours after post)

not at all these are very real experiments with very real outcomes,do you know the story of the golden calf?

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 1 minute after post)

Honestly, who says ‘layeth’ in everyday conversation? Just stop while you’re ahead.

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5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 3 minutes after post)

I am an anonymous spirit, very interested in finding out what you believe you know.
So I shall subscribe to this post.
Please do proceed.

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AKITHMA offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 15 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 3 minutes after post)

i sayeth!i think you are the sarcasm ,astroboy didnt have a dad

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 4 minutes after post)

anyway tictactomm i shall be in touch!

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 18 minutes after post)

nu poets and roses are a sweet sort of smell refreshing the mind from that stale pungent hell
they boast all is done and nothings anew
then say they knew all but hardly knew truth
and would we progress or does evolution snare
trapped in the minds of the people who dare
not!
how can we become one of these gods
if nothing moves forth and all knowlegde is done
is it all they accept?
what made you cover their traces and steps
perhaps ye are scared of what man shall acheive
and leave you to rot in these dead forest trees
will you navigate the heavens address
or wander in circles thinking you know the rest

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 46 minutes after post)

food for your brain,give us this day our daily bread

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Tictactomm offline Verified User (8 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 9 #
Edmonton, AB, CA | 5 months, 1 week ago (1 week, 1 day after post)

Thanks guys, and thanks for the wiki legwork Ireland. I really liked the lecture on ted.com (now a little dated as Richard noted) because of how provacatively simple the speaker laid it out.

Theoretical Physics and string theory in particular takes some serious leaps into the hyper-speculative, but that’s what is so fascinating about it. I honestly feel science is on the verge of a paradigm shift in terms of physical reality. I can’t wait to see how it unfolds.

Faith my fellow science geeks, faith (and yes, I’m aware of the irony of that statement).

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Edmonton, AB, CA | 5 months, 1 week ago (1 week, 1 day after post)

And wow Akithma. I did some digging into monatomic gold and its fascinating. History, theology, science, the mystery of origin, it all crosses together when reading about it.

Interesting point though. After burning gold to that intensity for that length of time, where did it go? Both sides of the equation have to balance, so where is it? String theory might provide but one aspect of one answer to a multitude of questions. Fasincating.

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I find the simplicity of it all to be the most interesting. The fact that there may be ‘miracle specks’ (as I like to call them) all around us that we could harness and manipulate to do as we please with them is not only an amazing concept, but also somewhat disturbing. I need to look into this more, mind you, but it would be wonderful to look in to.

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Wait a minute. By influencing and interacting with these strings that exist in different dimensions, wouldn’t we presumably be ripping a hole into space? Our three dimensions would be ruptured.

I don’t know, just a random thought.

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Edmonton, AB, CA | 5 months, 1 week ago (1 week, 4 days after post)

☺ wrote:
There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.

I admire your restraint ;). I doubt anyone would be offended if their speculations are dubbed “unscientific” brother. I give you free reign to respectfully voice your opinion!

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Yes, I too am curious as to understand what it is you disagree with.

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GB | 5 months, 1 week ago (1 week, 4 days after post)

I wishi had been keeping up with this post, but i havent had the time lately. String theory is a very interesting prospect, But Its not the only theory out there. There are infact a very more theroies of this kind and GUTs. Personally im a practical not theoretical physicist so Whilst i love the theories and thought experiments going on in string theory most of it is yet unprovable (and maybe never will be). I do find it very disconcerting though that we through so many people at this theory that allows for so much variation that most of the people that work on it have there own slightly different versions and none of it can be tied down. This is why i work on and very looking forward to the effort of the LHC. This will give us the ability to examine some of the precursary ideas that this theory is basesd on. The problem however with a theory this complex and has so many unknown variables Is that even if part of it are proved wrong and some of their assumptions that it is based on dont exist. There is enough wriggling room for theorists to reformulate it to get round any obsticle. This is why whilst i love the technical and predictions of the theory, as a scientist I find anything hard to belive with out proof…… and proof for this sort of thing is almost impossible.

By the way hasw anyone ever heard of heim theory lol, i always thought it would be really nice and eligant if it was found out to be true instead. In science is frequently the little guy that no one pay attention too that ends up being right lol. However very few people, (i think about 2 still living) actually understand it… It was wriiten by heim who did it all by him self in isolation, he was def and blind, he wrote it all in german and the theory has never been widly reveiwed mainly because harly anyone can understand it as its very complex and all in german.

OR tho recently a small group of people have decided to try and understand it. I like it when the little guy wins lol, I wouldnt be surprised if at some point he might be found to be a little understood genius.

lol sorry thats enought of the science history lesson lol. Back to string theory :P

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Think of it. If these particle collision tests work the way we hope they do (’we’ being the collective devotees to superstring theory), then it would be the biggest leap in the realm of physics since Einstein’s theory or relativity. This is great stuff; I’m so excited to be living in this time of discovery!

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☺ wrote:
There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.

I know that I don’t have any knowledge of string theory and that my comments were purely unscientific. I hope one day I grasp string theory. I just haven’t really tried very hard yet to grasp it.

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An Undisclosed Location | 5 months ago (1 week, 6 days after post)

betta wrote:

☺ wrote:
There are some things said that I approve of, and a lot of other stuff said that I think is unscientific BS. In the interest of diplomacy, for once I’m not going to say which is which.

I know that I don’t have any knowledge of string theory and that my comments were purely unscientific. I hope one day I grasp string theory. I just haven’t really tried very hard yet to grasp it.

I’m pretty sure he was talking about that which was discussed in the video, not your reply.

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