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I am a little afraid of the candidates running. I wish we had better choices and I wish they would change the rules so they talked about what they could do and not focus on the bad stuff about the other. I was thinking a few weeks ago about all the money spent when there were several candidates in the ring and maybe we should improve the qualifications (one example, I think the Mayor of NY ran and a couple Governors - is that enough experience to be president?). But in the end, I thought I heard the vote of the people likely won’t matter that it will just be the delegates/super delegates who decide it all. I do not understand all that. Who are those people and who made them delegates.
There is an astrology group I belong to and we were looking at their natal charts and the majority predicted Obama based on planetary placements and transits. But with Obama’s chart there shows the possibility of assassination.
PomPom2# GB | 1 year, 6 months ago (48 minutes after post)
well to one of the above, iran say they are enriching uranium for fuel purposes, who can say what the future holds but if certain countries have nuclear weapons they can use on who they want then why not iran? there, one obama problem solved by me partially *bows*
-He has a plan to make it easier for illegals to become legal which would open the borders more.
-I don’t have any information right now about Obama and socialism, I’ve only heard rumors and speculation thus far, I need to do some research.
-He can’t confront big business without it effecting the economy.
-I don’t respect that our country is trying to keep others from having nuclear weapons as long as we have them, that seems to me to be a massive double standard, we need to abolish all nuclear weapons world wide before we jump on another country for trying to develope them. How can Obama confront terrorism when his plan calls for getting out of the region? That doesn’t make sense to me. I disagree about Jimmy Carter being weak, I think his trying to negotiate peace was very noble and shows strength of character. I also think that it was wrong of our Government to withhold the Kidnapping victims letter from his family, what difference does it make how the letter was obtained? We will NOT have protection against terrorist as long as our borders are wide open and as long as our immigration laws are not being enforced. Profiling is not discrimination, it’s a matter of safety when you know that a certain group is trying to kill you. It is very sad that innocent Muslims have to endure this type of thing because of radical terrorist, but innocent Muslims that live in this country are at risk from the terrorist too.
-From what I see it is the hard working middle class that will suffer from his plans to help the poor, but that is mearly my opinion.
-Affirmative action breeds racism and discrimination as it stands and strengthening it will only increase the problem.
Just my opinion, but I don’t think he would make a good president. Not enough experience, don’t think he’s strong enough to handle it, and I think people like me (hard working middle class) will suffer alot.
PomPom2# GB | 1 year, 6 months ago (2 hours, 3 minutes after post)
Seen toomuch in life wrote: Just my opinion, but I don’t think he would make a good president. Not enough experience, don’t think he’s strong enough to handle it, and I think people like me (hard working middle class) will suffer alot.
I want a democrat in office, but not him.
you mean president bush did have all of the above qualifications to make it such a big deal if obama doesn’t, i reckon anyone will be a hellofa better president than bushy boy is
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Sansceriph, “How he’s not going to raise taxes on the middle class while increasing the funding of social programs.” By repealing the Bush/Cheney tax cuts for the wealthy, which even some of the wealthy have said they don’t want or need.
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.
Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.
Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.
Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.
Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.
florie
It’s obvious to me you are either too young to hold a professional job, do not have a degree, or realize the going average salary for a BS is 70,000. Put two of those in one house and you now get taxed as if you are rich. 150K Will buy you the average house in most areas of the country. Only the determined unsuccessful would jump on that bandwagon.
SoulRising wrote: florie, It’s obvious to me you are either too young to hold a professional job, do not have a degree, or realize the going average salary for a BS is 70,000. Put two of those in one house and you now get taxed as if you are rich. 150K Will buy you the average house in most areas of the country. Only the determined unsuccessful would jump on that bandwagon.
Hmm, I’m not quite getting this: First of all, please tell me where 150K will buy a house - I’m going there! I heard Obama this evening talking about a better tax situation for people under 1000 thousand, but I’m really not clear on the particulars. “Only the determined unsuccessful would jump on that bandwagon” I don’t understand what you’re saying. I’m not “young,” I do have a degree, but I still don’t follow your line of thought here. Please enlighten me, if you feel like it.
florie wrote: Sansceriph, “How he’s not going to raise taxes on the middle class while increasing the funding of social programs.” By repealing the Bush/Cheney tax cuts for the wealthy, which even some of the wealthy have said they don’t want or need.
More later.
The “tax cuts for the wealthy” is similar to “tax and spend”. It’s just rhetoric to appeal to one end of the political spectrum. Everyone has their hand out, and only the middle class and some of the lower class do the work. I think we should be taxed on what we spend, a national sales tax, instead of an income tax.
Restoring habeus corpus, abolishing secret prisons overseas, closing Guantanimo Bay, reversing the habitual surveillance of American citizens by the NSA, and such can be done without being weak at all. But his core constituency is very politically correct, and the threat from Al Queada will not evaporate. Being a less imperial nation will help, but how do we do it without emboldening Iran to develop their nuclear program, and thus paving the way for nuclear suitcase bombs on our soil?
TAX & SPEND is what Republicans say the Democrats do. But what the Republicans have done is CUT TAXES (but only on the rich, so guess who carries the load) and SPENT money like crazy (even handing out pallets of money in Iraq with zero oversight) on this boondoggle of a “war.” In other words, they accuse the Democrats of what THEY do. Typical double-speak.
Taxed on what we spend, now thats an idea. How long do you think it would take the average guy to stop spending? How much money would that tax plan reap in one year, 5 years, 10…
sansceriph wrote: Restoring habeus corpus, abolishing secret prisons overseas, closing Guantanimo Bay, reversing the habitual surveillance of American citizens by the NSA, and such can be done without being weak at all. But his core constituency is very politically correct, and the threat from Al Queada will not evaporate. Being a less imperial nation will help, but how do we do it without emboldening Iran to develop their nuclear program, and thus paving the way for nuclear suitcase bombs on our soil?
We could seek the answer to why they hate us (hint: they don’t “hate our freedoms”).
“His core constituency is very politically correct” - says who? What if they’re just “correct?!”
Iran WILL develop it’s nuclear program, and so will everyone else, as long as we lead the way in being war-mongers and bullies.
The Libertarians are peddling their “Fair Tax” which is in effect a sales tax that would eliminate the IRS, and thus eliminate all the tax shelters used by the rich.
I agree that the present administration has done exactly the opposite of what they promised by expanding government.
We should eliminate all nuclear weapons, or “new-cu-lar” as the president says. And with the Soviet Union we did reduce it to where we can only destroy the world a bunch of times instead of a ******** of times. But we still need to prevent anyone else from developing them. It’s bad enough that we, the Russians, Chinese, British, French, Koreans and so on have them.
I must say that I was expecting a robust defense of Obama’s policy positions. And only Florie and PomPom seem up to the challenge. Where are all of those educated Obama supporters?!
ranger sheepeffer wrote: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat the ****, it stole my reply :/
VOTE RON PAUL!
Had his chance, didn’t win because he’s widely considered insane.
Hes widely not considered at all actually. Because the media has given him little to no coverage, or reported incorrectly about him.
who else was considered crazy for his time….who was that again?
Oh yea. Albert Einstein. Abe Lincoln.
and thats just the A’s.
Dont vote Obama just because hes black, and dont vote Hillary just because shes a woman, is all i ask. Educate yourselves first. Do not believe everything the media says. 90% of it is hearsay, exaggerated or just plain wrong.
I know, Courty. I was in the media for 26 years. In the state where I live there are quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Strangely, it was their fanaticism that turned me away from him. I do agree with a number of his policies. But the Republican primaries are over. We’re down to Larry, Curly and Moe now.
i’m not really a big fan of any of the canidates this time around… i guess if i had to choose out of the three it would be obama… but seriously we need better people to run.
First of all Sans as you know the president is some what limited in what they can actually accomplish. Obama will not open our borders, but he will hopefully be able to enforce an immigration policy that is logical! McCain’s policy on immigration has just recently become more conservative, because it had to so he could try to convince people he is a republican. Is Obama going to raise taxes, probably, especially for the rich. He is going to reverse the tax cuts George Bush tried to use to convince Americans to like him. The truth is you pay what you get for, so if you want a powerful country that is also compassionate you need to understand it cost money. It is my belief he will mainly raise taxes on George Wubba’s rich friends. I have not seen any evidence that suggest Obama has plans to strengthen affirmative action. My hopes is that he will throw out that crap policy known as NCLB and come up with a comprehensive educational policy that values teachers, while strengthening education, especially in poor urban and rural areas. If you want to help the poor you give them the tools to rise above their circumstances, which is mainly a quality education. NCLB has done major damage to our educational system and it is going to take someone with compassion and smarts to fix it. McCain will not change Bush’s educational policy. That in itself should be a reason not to vote for McCain. Vote for him he you like devaluing teachers, keeping poor urban and rural schools student from being able to succeed, treating special needs student like crap, forcing our kids to memorize facts instead of being able to be creative and analytical thinkers, and if you just plain don’t care about kids. Obama will bring our troops home before the Twenty-second century begins.
I have numerous ignorant people who assume Obama will be all about black power, but give me a fricking break. People seem to ignore the fact he is half white and was raised mainly in white culture. He is diverse, which is what makes him American.
May favorite thing about Obama is he will be able to undo some of the damage Bush has caused with his idiotic foreign policy. Obama will be able to reach out to countries and heal some of the tensions Bush created. Neither Hilary or McCain have the compassion, charisma, or the brains to be able to convince the world that we are a Super Power that is not about forcing our beliefs on others, but rather one that would like to be an inspiration to others. One of the great things about Clinton is he was great at making friends with our neighbors, because charm and charisma go along way in foreign policy. McCain puts me to sleep when he speaks, hell he seems to have a hard time keeping himself awake. Not to mention, the rest of the world will only see him as an extension of Bush!!!!! McCain will be a better puppet for the wealthy right wing conservative than Bush was. As far as business goes, I don’t see Obama doing damage to business, but he may provide reasonable incentives for businesses to stay in the U.S. and I am sure Halliburton’s days will be numbers. Do you really think McCain will do anything about businesses like Halliburton?
I think it is best to choose a president who you believe is a person of great moral integrity, strength, compassion, and intelligence. We don’t really know exactly what any of them will be able to accomplish, but we want a person who will do what is right and not be afraid to be tough. Out of the three candidates there are two who seem to put winning above all else, while there is one who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in even if it could hurt his chances of winning. I am not saying that Obama does not want to win, but I am certain that he would not try to win the presidency at any cost. When he went against the Iraq War he put his political career in huge danger of destructing, but he spoke out for what he believed was right. Everyone knows that he could of played ugly with Clinton, because her closet is full of baggage, but he took the high road. Anyone who still has question about who he is, I suggest you read his book “Dream’s from My Father” to get a true sense of the man. He wrote this book before he began his political career, so it has nothing to do with him trying to win the presidency. There is no doubt that he had know idea where his road was leading when he wrote it. http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-My-Fathe…
rootbeerfloat12 wrote: i’m not really a big fan of any of the canidates this time around… i guess if i had to choose out of the three it would be obama… but seriously we need better people to run.
Silverwings,I have no need to watch any more CRAZY videos made by delusional people. Oprah is absolutely right when she said that there is more than one path to God. Anyone who believes Bush chose Obama should be institutionalized for psychiatric treatment immediately!!
Maximina wrote: Oprah is absolutely right when she said that there is more than one path to God.
I agree that there is more than one way to know God, even though the Bible says otherwise. I know it seems like a contradiction, but one can believe in Jesus and respect that other religions have an understanding of God. Ironically Maxi, what Oprah is saying is that no one is absolutely right, so she can’t be absolutely right either.
Maximina wrote: Anyone who believes Bush chose Obama should be institutionalized for psychiatric treatment immediately!!
I’m the Duke of Conspiracy Theories and not even I believe that.
-How he’s not going to raise taxes on the middle class while increasing the funding of social programs.
-How he’s not going to leave the borders open.
-How the US is not going to shift dramatically toward socialism.
-How he’s going to confront big business without further tanking the economy.
-How he’s going to return our lost civil liberties, confront terrorism, prevent Iran and Syrian from gaining nuclear weapons, restore our alliances and oppose radical Islam without discriminating against Muslims or profiling them in airports, without showing the kind of weakness that Jimmy Carter did and emboldening our enemies, without just rolling over.
-How he’s going to make great strides for the poor without taking the profit incentive away from people who work hard.
-How strengthening affirmative action won’t result in just making a new kind of discrimination.
sansceriph wrote: [quote Maximina]Oprah is absolutely right when she said that there is more than one path to God.
I agree that there is more than one way to know God, even though the Bible says otherwise. I know it seems like a contradiction, but one can believe in Jesus and respect that other religions have an understanding of God. Ironically Maxi, what Oprah is saying is that no one is absolutely right, so she can’t be absolutely right either.
My path was a long and winding rocky road, but then again thats the kind I always choose:).
sansceriph wrote: [quote Maximina]Oprah is absolutely right when she said that there is more than one path to God.
I agree that there is more than one way to know God, even though the Bible says otherwise. I know it seems like a contradiction, but one can believe in Jesus and respect that other religions have an understanding of God. Ironically Maxi, what Oprah is saying is that no one is absolutely right, so she can’t be absolutely right either.
sansceriph
My path was a long and winding rocky road, but then again thats the kind I always choose:).
PomPom2# GB | 1 year, 6 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)
Like the idea of getting rid of the IRS, just think of the tax payer money that would save. Nationwide sales tax is a good idea, I also like the idea of a flat tax, everyone paying the same % of their earnings. Either way it needs to be balanced, but I have high doubts that will ever happen. Republican/Democrat their all the same.
Fizz wrote: Like the idea of getting rid of the IRS, just think of the tax payer money that would save. Nationwide sales tax is a good idea, I also like the idea of a flat tax, everyone paying the same % of their earnings. Either way it needs to be balanced, but I have high doubts that will ever happen. Republican/Democrat their all the same.
Would the Nationwide sales tax you propose limit the US export market or eliminate it? Who wants to buy our inflated goods?
A flat tax would not be possible for the millions of people (who by the way get all their taxes back at the end of the year) on minimum wage who probably would not be able to eat any more (ie food stamps, government subsidies….
Fizz wrote: -He’s already said he would raise some taxes.
He would rescind the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy - that’s the way in which he’d raise taxes, not on the middle class, in fact those taxes would go down a bit.
Fizz wrote: -He has a plan to make it easier for illegals to become legal, which would open the borders more.
I’m not sure how the borders could be MORE open than they are now. He does want to crack down on employers who hire illegal immigrants, and if they’re here, make it easier for them to become legal might be a good idea – or not.
Fizz wrote: -I don’t have any information right now about Obama and socialism, I’ve only heard rumors and speculation thus far, I need to do some research.
I haven’t heard ANYTHING about his being a socialist, except from Sansceriph. :)
Fizz wrote: -He can’t confront big business without it affecting the economy.
He’s not a confronter. Big business could stand to be more socially responsible without being “hurt” too much. Look at the oil companies and the large agricultural & biotech companies, which are making windfall profits – the later on the sudden, from-out-of-nowhere Food Crisis.
Fizz wrote: -I don’t respect that our country is trying to keep others from having nuclear weapons as long as we have them, that seems to me to be a massive double standard, we need to abolish all nuclear weapons world wide before we jump on another country for trying to develop them.
Boy do I ever agree with this, Fizz!
Fizz wrote: How can Obama confront terrorism when his plan calls for getting out of the region? That doesn’t make sense to me.
I think our being in Iraq is just making things worse. Al-Qaeda was not IN Iraq until after we had occupied it. The occupation (not really a “war”) is making everyone hate us, also. Wouldn’t we hate a country that managed to invade us and kill many many many thousands (possibly over 1 million) of our citizens? And what are we really doing there?
[quoteFizz]I disagree about Jimmy Carter being weak, I think his trying to negotiate peace was very noble and shows strength of character.[/quote]
Fizz wrote: Florie..not just that..did you see the PA debate? There was a tax raise for the middle class.
I thought I did … I don’t remember hearing about a tax raise for the middle class. Here’s his page on the economy: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/eco… Under “At a Glance” it says “Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief.” And then …
Obama will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay.
* Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new “Making Work Pay” tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The “Making Work Pay” tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
* Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans: Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Obama will ensure that the IRS uses the information it already gets from banks and employers to give taxpayers the option of pre-filled tax forms to verify, sign and return. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
I totally believe that there should be a massive crack down on companies hiring illegals, but the thing is, the law is weak in that area, has long as the documents are real that’s all the employers have to worry about and the illegals buy real documents on the blackmarket, my husband has had to deal with that a lot in his company, he doesn’t want to hire illegals, but sometimes can only suspect that they are illegal, discrimination laws have made it hard for him. Isn’t that whacked? Hope all that made sense, maybe somebody else could explain the laws better then I did.
It is a weird subject, because our government says we don’t want illegal immigrants but then many many employers hire them, plus we do nothing much about the borders … I really don’t get it. It’s over my head!!! :)
Florie, I appreciate your passion in your candidate, but hope you don’t completely decieve yourself. Just because a candidate promises things doesn’t mean he will do it and even if he does it doesn’t mean that it will make it through Congress. Obama is a democrat and frankly maybe I’d put more stock in him if he were an Independent. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, as long as people are voting based on the two party system things won’t change. We need a grassroots movement to vote outside Democrat and Republican, that’s the only way things are really going to change, until then it’s just politics.
I’ve been “around the block” :) Hee hee hee har! I actually used to GO around the block when I was around 5, and I wasn’t supposed to. Anyway, I (hellow) KNOW that candidates don’t always do what they promise, and sometimes they just plain CAN’T. I’m not gonna mistrust Obama though just because he’s a Democrat. And I don’t believe it’s “just politics.” Hope springs eternal!! :)
Fizz wrote: Florie, I appreciate your passion in your candidate, but hope you don’t completely deceive yourself. Just because a candidate promises things doesn’t mean he will do it and even if he does it doesn’t mean that it will make it through Congress. Obama is a democrat and frankly maybe I’d put more stock in him if he were an Independent. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, as long as people are voting based on the two party system things won’t change. We need a grassroots movement to vote outside Democrat and Republican, that’s the only way things are really going to change, until then it’s just politics.
I don’t think any candidate whether republican, democrat, or independent could possible achieve everything want to while in office. Are government is built on a set of check and balances that makes so no one has absolute power. I think if an independent won the White House at this time, they would even have less power. I agree with you Fizz that a two party system may have many flaws, but at least it gives a sense of a persons loyalties and values. I would have not problem voting independent if I felt the person had a shot at winning and they represented my values. There has never been an independent candidate I could truly relate to. The truth is, it does matter who is in the White House. Bush as proven that who ever sleeps in the oval office has tremendous power in the world. Although it would be nice for some people to have more options, we have only two.
The question at this time people need to ask themselves is whether they would like a water down version of the Bush presidency or if they would like a President who will do his best to make good moral decisions as President. Obama is not all about power and money. After finishing college he decided not to take a job that made a lot of money or go straight to an ivy league school, but instead spent some years in a poor Chicago neighborhood trying to make a difference. He was completely out of his element, being a half white/half black man, raised in a white community by his white grand parents, but he found a way to relate to others who were different then him. After several years in Chicago he realized that he could make a bigger difference if he attained a law degree, so he went to Harvard. After finishing Harvard he rejected all of the huge six figured salary jobs offered to him and instead went back to Chicago to practice civil rights law. There is no way that a man who was raised under his circumstance could of ever known that he would one day end up running for President of the U.S. This is what being President should be about. The President is someone who should truly understand what it is like to American. He/she should understand that being an American is not only a beautiful gift, but also a huge responsibility to do what is right.
McCain came from a prestigious military family that pressured him to succeed. He did not necessarily choose his path, but it was heavily forced upon him. Although I highly commend him on his service and his strength to survive being a POW, he has mainly lived a life of privilege and one of family expectations. Like Clinton he will do anything to become president. After the brutal personal attacks Bush squashed him with during 2000, he turned around and kissed Bush’s ***. I actually like him in 2000. He was the only republican I have ever liked, that was until I realized he would give up his integrity and morals to succeed in the republican world. I also can’t stand the fact that he has a quick temper and consistently flip flops on all sort of issues.
I just came across this article that sums up many of the reasons why Obama is captivating to so many and why he has changed the world forever. Whether you like him or not, no one can deny that what he did was defy the odds, which is something all us should strive to achieve.
Fizz wrote: Florie, I appreciate your passion in your candidate, but hope you don’t completely deceive yourself. Just because a candidate promises things doesn’t mean he will do it and even if he does it doesn’t mean that it will make it through Congress. Obama is a democrat and frankly maybe I’d put more stock in him if he were an Independent. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, as long as people are voting based on the two party system things won’t change. We need a grassroots movement to vote outside Democrat and Republican, that’s the only way things are really going to change, until then it’s just politics.
I don’t think any candidate whether republican, democrat, or independent could possible achieve everything want to while in office. Are government is built on a set of check and balances that makes so no one has absolute power. I think if an independent won the White House at this time, they would even have less power. I agree with you Fizz that a two party system may have many flaws, but at least it gives a sense of a persons loyalties and values. I would have not problem voting independent if I felt the person had a shot at winning and they represented my values. There has never been an independent candidate I could truly relate to. The truth is, it does matter who is in the White House. Bush as proven that who ever sleeps in the oval office has tremendous power in the world. Although it would be nice for some people to have more options, we have only two.
The question at this time people need to ask themselves is whether they would like a water down version of the Bush presidency or if they would like a President who will do his best to make good moral decisions as President. Obama is not all about power and money. After finishing college he decided not to take a job that made a lot of money or go straight to an ivy league school, but instead spent some years in a poor Chicago neighborhood trying to make a difference. He was completely out of his element, being a half white/half black man, raised in a white community by his white grand parents, but he found a way to relate to others who were different then him. After several years in Chicago he realized that he could make a bigger difference if he attained a law degree, so he went to Harvard. After finishing Harvard he rejected all of the huge six figured salary jobs offered to him and instead went back to Chicago to practice civil rights law. There is no way that a man who was raised under his circumstance could of ever known that he would one day end up running for President of the U.S. This is what being President should be about. The President is someone who should truly understand what it is like to American. He/she should understand that being an American is not only a beautiful gift, but also a huge responsibility to do what is right.
McCain came from a prestigious military family that pressured him to succeed. He did not necessarily choose his path, but it was heavily forced upon him. Although I highly commend him on his service and his strength to survive being a POW, he has mainly lived a life of privilege and one of family expectations. Like Clinton he will do anything to become president. After the brutal personal attacks Bush squashed him with during 2000, he turned around and kissed Bush’s ***. I actually like him in 2000. He was the only republican I have ever liked, that was until I realized he would give up his integrity and morals to succeed in the republican world. I also can’t stand the fact that he has a quick temper and consistently flip flops on all sort of issues.
YOUR SPEECH IS ONE SIDED AND POORLY WRITTEN. IF YOU WANT CREDIBILITY CHECK YOUR FACTS. HOW CAN YOU CALL WORKING AS A MILITARY OFFICER IN COMBAT PRESTIGIOUS AND PRIVILEGE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN OFFICER IS PAID? NO MORE THAN OBAMA’S PUBLIC SERVICE. YOU HAVE LITTLE RESPECT FOR THE LIVES OF OUR MILITARY. PUTTING ANOTHER CANDIDATE DOWN TO MAKE YOUR CHOICE SOUND BETTER IS DEVIOUS. YOUR DOUBLE TALK IS WHAT DESTROYS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC’S ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON TRUTH, INTEGRITY, STRENGTH OF CHARACTER, THE ABILITY TO BE RESPECTED IN THE WORLD AREANA… THIS REQUIRES FAR MORE THAN CHARM. ONE QUESTION TO CONSIDER IS WILL THE WORLD RESPECT OUR PRESIDENT? IS HE/SHE STRONG, CAN HE/SHE NEGOTIATE, DOES HE/SHE KNOW HOW TO MAKE UNPOPULAR DECISIONS? ASSURING THE FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, OUR CONSTITUTION, THE SAFETY OF OUR SHORES, AND THE VALUE OF OUR CURRENCY IS NOT ABOUT SELLING SOMEONE A B*** S*** COMMERCIAL.
Maximina’s writing is not a “speech” and I think it flows very well. I noticed a few typos, just as there are in your reply. Which facts do you dispute? She did not contend that military officers have a life of prestige and privilege. How do you know whether she has respect for the military or not? Pointing out flaws in a candidate is not devious, it’s forthright. I see no double talk in what she has written, and even if there were it would certainly not destroy all of America’s ability to make decisions.
I take it you don’t like Obama and that’s your right. No one should attack you for that, and no one has.
Floris is right my reply was not a speech and it probably had lots of typos. I was just having a conversation with all of you. You can disagree with me, but my opinions are my own and I stand strongly by them. Obviously something I said angered you, but I am not quite sure what it was, because you were not direct in your reply. There are different types of prestige in life that have nothing to do with money. I highly regard military service as noble and brave, but being in the military was expected of McCain. So it my mind he did not choose the path less taken, he chose a path his family expected. Military families with power are very prestigious. I have nothing against McCain’s family background, my point was Obama is more representative of a typical American who rose to greatness. The odds against him succeeding in life were far greater than Clinton’s or McCain’s.
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ONE QUESTION TO CONSIDER IS WILL THE WORLD RESPECT OUR PRESIDENT? IS HE/SHE STRONG, CAN HE/SHE NEGOTIATE, DOES HE/SHE KNOW HOW TO MAKE UNPOPULAR DECISIONS? ASSURING THE FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, OUR CONSTITUTION, THE SAFETY OF OUR SHORES, AND THE VALUE OF OUR CURRENCY IS NOT ABOUT SELLING SOMEONE A B*** S*** COMMERCIAL.
Out of McCain and Obama the world will clearly respect Obama more. The world will not look favorable on another presidency that is an extension of the Bush administration. Obama is clearly the world’s choice for president of the United States. Clearly Obama is capable of negotiating and making tough decisions. McCain lost his backbone in 2000. Obama was the only one will to put his career on the line to protest against the war. McCain still does not have the guts to admit it was and still is a bad idea. McCain will make what ever decisions are popular with his rich conservative backers. Why do you think his values consistently flip flop, because he wants to win at any cost. I am not putting McCain down to make Obama sound better. I put McCain down because I don’t like him and I fear for our country’s safety in the world if he wins.
Soulrising what I think is really bothering you is that you don’t want Obama to win and he clearly has a good chance at being our next president. I think you need to take sometime to figure out why you are so angry.
Politics, i love it but i hate it. it helps and corrupts our little worlds. its all about choosing the one who will make the less damage. this is not my platform so i will just read what you all have to say.but to those voting well to all who can vote make a difference and vote. even if the person you vote could end up either good for us or bad. grr its irritating. but hey i got all A’s on all my economics and government classed.
PomPom2# GB | 1 year, 6 months ago (4 days after post)
what i wanna know is who gave these people the right to act as god for us? we’re helpless pathetic little flies who get squashed when we get in the governments way
SoulRising, personally I didn’t think what Maxi said was a speech, I thought she was stating her opinion to a friend of hers (ME) that had made a previous comment.
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