disability help: Should help be deserved? - Help.com

please be more clear

Oh I see. Well what if someone has dyslexia or autism, should they deserve help then?

why do you think yes?

well, I get help but I feel this high pressure to be normal and be like everyone else, even though I can’t. It feel’s Im getting extra more help than everyone else, and that I don’t deserve it because I should be like everyone else.

I personally think it’s unfair. Right, they’re disabled/have learning difficulties but in no way are they allowed to have HELP in an exam plus extra time to finish the paper. That’s what happens in my school.
Exams are made to judge the person’s mind. By getting help, it’s not their mind being judged. Sure their disabled but they have to deal with it, they can’t lie/cheat.

Disabled kids in the school I go to, abuse their ‘priorities’. They accuse people of bullying and what not, of course teachers believe anything since the person is disabled and are considered innocent. Disabled people are also favoured by teachers, they get good reports and awards even if other people are better than them.
I get told off for merely not holding a door or waiting for a disabled person to pass when I’m getting LATE for lessons. Seriously, it really pisses me off.

I’ve grown some hate towards disabled people, not because they’re disabled, but because of the idiotic way other people treat them, in school.

Call me sad or what not, but hey, it’s how I feel.

Yes, disabled people should get extra help in lessons by Teacher Assistants (not the actual teacher since he/she needs to help everyone else) but they should learn and not receive help in an exam. What’s the point of getting extra help if you get helped in an exam?

I typed a lot xD

From a purely financial perspective: if it costs less to educate someone with no disabilities, and that person is likely to contribute more to the economy, why should we?

what does subsidized mean?

“I get told off for merely not holding a door or waiting for a disabled person to pass when I’m getting LATE for lessons. Seriously, it really pisses me off.” well, to be honest, I think holding a door for someone becase thy can’t is a good thing to do. They cudn’t do it on their own.

“Yes, disabled people should get extra help in lessons by Teacher Assistants (not the actual teacher since he/she needs to help everyone else) but they should learn and not receive help in an exam. What’s the point of getting extra help if you get helped in an exam?”
In a way I could agree with this but it varies really. If a person is dyslexic and can’t read and someone else reads the questions for them I think it is fair.

Anonymous wrote:
From a purely financial perspective: if it costs less to educate someone with no disabilities, and that person is likely to contribute more to the economy, why should we?

Yes true, but then, it wouldn’t be nice to exclude an discriminate againt those who can’t do much. When I see others in this situation its easier to think they deserve support, but when it comes to me I feel I deserve none of it.

seeuseeme wrote:
Monetary discounts, so a normal person would pay 100 when a disabled for eg. will pay 40 maybe 70

what is monetary?

Anonymous wrote:
In a way I could agree with this but it varies really. If a person is dyslexic and can’t read and someone else reads the questions for them I think it is fair.

No. If they CAN’T read, they shouldn’t even do the exam -.- Yeah, they have a disability but it doesn’t mean that they can get more than they deserve.
It’s just unfortunate for them.

Wow… I’m amazed at what I’ve read here. I expected that someone would have come forward and said something positive about a society that aims to support everyone. Instead, I hear “Darwinian” arguments against helping others based on “deserving it”?? Deserving help does not come into the equation here. There may be some people who claim a disability when they don’t have one, or who try to milk the system for all it’ll give them, but these people should not affect the level of help that we give to people in need. Further, they should not engender a bitterness that translates into anger toward all people with a disability (it’s kind of like racism or sexism).

Taking from the example above, if someone has dyslexia or an autism spectrum disorder, they are going to learn things and process information differently from people who do not have these conditions. Thus, the educational system was (perhaps poorly) constructed to help people learn in the ways that they learn. Testing is another example of they way that the educational system is set up for people who learn in one manner. Not everyone can take tests… even some people without disabilities, who are perfectly capable of acing a test, do poorly on tests because they don’t process information that way.

Anyway, a society is only as strong as its weakest link… a society that works to support everyone (fairly) is the ideal. Unfortunately, society is made up of imperfect people and those people sometimes take advantage of others, or pretend that others don’t exist so that they don’t have to deal with them.

Bottom line: everyone should do what they can to help others, disability or no, and be more tolerant of differences.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
From a purely financial perspective: if it costs less to educate someone with no disabilities, and that person is likely to contribute more to the economy, why should we?

Yes true, but then, it wouldn’t be nice to exclude an discriminate againt those who can’t do much. When I see others in this situation its easier to think they deserve support, but when it comes to me I feel I deserve none of it.

Right, it would be great if we could all afford to be nice to each other, in a perfect world everyone would get the help they need, but the real world doesn’t work like that. If extra resources are allocated to the disabled, then less resources are available to allocate to those who aren’t disabled, which means the average standard of education is diminished, and those who graduate from our education system are less able to contribute to the economy.

Applying the law of diminishing returns this eventually means that there would be no money left to pay for education for anyone, disabled or not.

anonymous, do you have a disability of any sort?

That’s a dumb question. Of course I don’t have a disabiity. If I were disabled, I would hardly be arguing against allocating additional teaching resources to disabled children. Let me ask you a question - how much of your free time do you use to help educate the disabled?

I did do a childcare course which would have made me b able to help any children, includng those were who disabled. but because of my own disability I couldn’t do the course. they told me because of it I wasn’t suitable for the course,

ok, well you asked the question in the first place, and now you have my reply. If you don’t like it, tough.

you saying tough because of my disability or because of ur opinion?

My opinion - although we all have our own cross to bear. The key is not to allow it to rule our lives.