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Life is love?

Life is life, love is love. One does not necessitate the other.

Life should revolve around love. I think it should be its centre, but unfortunately other dont have this centre. Some have hate. I’m guessing it yours though, love that is!

I mean some others… soz

VKei wrote:
Life is life, love is love. One does not necessitate the other.

agreed. But also love makes life livable….i think

sabb wrote:

VKei wrote:
Life is life, love is love. One does not necessitate the other.

agreed. But also love makes life livable….i think

I think of it as one of many ways to do so.

what other ways make life livable?

Innovation, Enlightenment, Excitement, Revelation, Introspection…

very good. I’m enlightened

sabb wrote:
very good. I’m enlightened

Congratulations ^.^

So according to your statement that love makes life livable why does multiple people want to kill themselves over love? More correctly love is part of life. Life exists with or without love.

Jheezy wrote:
Life exists with or without love.

Unless you’ve yet to exist, or have already passed on. Being here, alive and awake, is only one tiny step in existing.

Jheezy wrote:
So according to your statement that love makes life livable why does multiple people want to kill themselves over love? More correctly love is part of life. Life exists with or without love.

Yes ofcoarse, life goes on without love. I was thinking idealistically, in terms of love amking life livable.

VKei wrote:

sabb wrote:
very good. I’m enlightened

Congratulations ^.^

Thankyou

But, I think for some people, love is life. Why so much emphasis on it other wise?

sabb wrote:
But, I think for some people, love is life. Why so much emphasis on it other wise?

Perhaps it is the most easy. Perhaps love, or want of it is so very basic to us, that it is the simplest way through which one can attempt to give life meaning.

Enlightenment, for example, takes years or even decades of determination and perseverance to attain. Love, you can just kind of fall into.

Manbe so many people live to love because love is… effortless?

The concept of love is different for everyone. Respect and humility makes the world a better place. Love is great but with love comes suspicion and anger among mainy others. Love is too idealistic. Don’t misunderstand me being in love is the greatest feeling one can feel.

Jheezy wrote:
Don’t misunderstand me being in love is the greatest feeling one can feel.

I don’t know if I believe that, though to listen to others, one would certainly suspect that to be true.

Why dont you believe that VKei?

Love leaves me breathless, just like the next person, but I find that far too many beautiful loves end because people don’t know where to go next. They just sit in their love, expecting it to perpetuate itself.

Life is about living, not about loving. Loving makes living better, but living simply to love is leaving a lot of stuff out.

VKei wrote:

sabb wrote:
But, I think for some people, love is life. Why so much emphasis on it other wise?

Perhaps it is the most easy. Perhaps love, or want of it is so very basic to us, that it is the simplest way through which one can attempt to give life meaning.

Enlightenment, for example, takes years or even decades of determination and perseverance to attain. Love, you can just kind of fall into.

Manbe so many people live to love because love is… effortless?

Yes I hear what your saying. (Added info…you prob don’t want to know).

I was in a relationship and love and relationships seemed to be the centre of many peoples lives, as it was mine. Then I thoought, it all seemed too simple, easy as you will. And figured true enlightenment, self sufficiency, undersranding one’s self or indeed other’s the world and other things, other than (alot of other’s) love were good thing to concentrate on.
But, I look back now, and see that i was actually alot happier whenever i was in love.
So for all my intelectual indevour, i felt more stupid than bere, because i needn’t have tried to discover all those things without love. I was callus to dismiss love so easliy.

sabb wrote:

VKei wrote:

sabb wrote:
But, I think for some people, love is life. Why so much emphasis on it other wise?

Perhaps it is the most easy. Perhaps love, or want of it is so very basic to us, that it is the simplest way through which one can attempt to give life meaning.Enlightenment, for example, takes years or even decades of determination and perseverance to attain. Love, you can just kind of fall into.Manbe so many people live to love because love is… effortless?

Yes I hear what your saying. (Added info…you prob don’t want to know).I was in a relationship and love and relationships seemed to be the centre of many peoples lives, as it was mine. Then I thoought, it all seemed too simple, easy as you will. And figured true enlightenment, self sufficiency, undersranding one’s self or indeed other’s the world and other things, other than (alot of other’s) love were good thing to concentrate on. But, I look back now, and see that i was actually alot happier whenever i was in love. So for all my intelectual indevour, i felt more stupid than bere, because i needn’t have tried to discover all those things without love. I was callus to dismiss love so easliy.

Perhaps, but perhaps you merely outgrew a more immature love. What if you were to find someone whom you could truly love LIVING with, not just merely loving?

What happens when two enlightened people find and love each other? It’s better, stronger, and more powerful than the sorry, mundane love the vast majority of people share.

You’ve not chosen the wrong path, simply the harder one.

do you think you’ve discovered enlightenment? I’m just curious….

sabb wrote:
do you think you’ve discovered enlightenment? I’m just curious….

Not yet. I am merely another person on that road.

Are we always on that road. Even when you’ve found it. You will always be on that road, because life is in constant flux. We cannot freeze a state of mind.

And what is enlightenmet, (termed with human beings) is it just when you are yourself, totally aware of who you are and your surroundings, and peramiters?

Sorry if i’m deviating from post btw

Everyone is not on that road. It is a road that must be chosen. Most choose to live in ignorance, perhaps even in a state they believe to be love, which is only truly their easy way out.

And what IS enlightenment? I’ve only bits and pieces of that answer right now. Not even enough to put into words… actually, I believe I know enough to know that it cannot be put into words.

But if you seek it… really, truly seek it… you’ll find it. You have to.

Yes, but once you’ve found it you can also loose it.

I swear I found personal enlightenment.

But now, I’m back at square one.

I think i’m nieve, and unfufilled atm…

sabb wrote:
Yes, but once you’ve found it you can also loose it.I swear I found personal enlightenment.But now, I’m back at square one.

No you’re not, you just perceive yourself to be so in this one moment. You’re eons ahead of others, if for no other reason than you’ve touched enlightenment and can claim it exists.

There are those who move to the easy road from he hard one for lack of motivation. That is… unfortunate.

I don’t know how now not to fall into the easy road.

I think what was foolish of though in the past was to premept situations before they happend, write it off as if i know what it’s about. I think that not giving love a chance again for a long time made me vvdepressed.

The struggle now, is not only to find enlightenment, but also love.

I fear, i will never find either again, and live on in introlable misery.

Lovely….sure you wanted to hear all that..(soz)

sabb wrote:
I don’t know how now not to fall into the easy road.I think what was foolish of though in the past was to premept situations before they happend, write it off as if i know what it’s about. I think that not giving love a chance again for a long time made me vvdepressed. The struggle now, is not only to find enlightenment, but also love.I fear, i will never find either again, and live on in introlable misery.Lovely….sure you wanted to hear all that..(soz)

It is perhaps in finding that you have not what you want that you will find what you need. Once you have what you need, what you want is easy.

Love and happiness without effort are meaningless.

VKei wrote:

sabb wrote:
I don’t know how now not to fall into the easy road.I think what was foolish of though in the past was to premept situations before they happend, write it off as if i know what it’s about. I think that not giving love a chance again for a long time made me vvdepressed. The struggle now, is not only to find enlightenment, but also love.I fear, i will never find either again, and live on in introlable misery.Lovely….sure you wanted to hear all that..(soz)

It is perhaps in finding that you have not what you want that you will find what you need. Once you have what you need, what you want is easy.Love and happiness without effort are meaningless.

I’ve found this emensly helpfull. Thanks or your intersting views

sabb wrote:

VKei wrote:

sabb wrote:
I don’t know how now not to fall into the easy road.I think what was foolish of though in the past was to premept situations before they happend, write it off as if i know what it’s about. I think that not giving love a chance again for a long time made me vvdepressed. The struggle now, is not only to find enlightenment, but also love.I fear, i will never find either again, and live on in introlable misery.Lovely….sure you wanted to hear all that..(soz)

It is perhaps in finding that you have not what you want that you will find what you need. Once you have what you need, what you want is easy.Love and happiness without effort are meaningless.

I’ve found this emensly helpfull. Thanks or your intersting views

Anytime.

so you can never be effortlessly happy? That’s a bit depressing, but yea prob true.

Also, I don’t think I have what I need, that may be why i find having what i want impossible.

Have you read dante’s inferno? Because, I thought, if you have everything that it descibes, in place, you will find enlightenment, weather you know it r not, doesn’t matter.
I read that after, i thought, i believed to have found my englightenment.

sabb wrote:
Have you read dante’s inferno? Because, I thought, if you have everything that it descibes, in place, you will find enlightenment, weather you know it r not, doesn’t matter.
I read that after, i thought, i believed to have found my englightenment.

Not yet, though I’ve been meaning to.

And I believe that true happiness is effortless in motion… the effort is in learning how. Some of the world’s greatest innovators literally come up with new ideas IN THEIR SLEEP. Their LIVES simply manifest brilliance without effort… but every single one of them went to school and studied hard. No one is born into innovation, living, happiness, or love. You either work for it, or think you have it without ever really knowing it.

Someday your enlightenment will come full circle… and you’ll know it for sure.

Thankyou for saying that…I hope it will someday, atleast I’m trying now.

But i just don’t want to be meaninglessly tring…hence depression.