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What is truth?

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (2 minutes after post)

You could look at my profile and see what I wrote about it — but don’t come back and insult me about it cuz I have a headache, thanks.

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SweetLips~ offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Unknown Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (4 minutes after post)

Truth is a part of an element of a fact.

:P Honestly I have no clue, but this post really made me think.

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Rowass offline Verified User (7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 216 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (7 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:
You could look at my profile and see what I wrote about it — but don’t come back and insult me about it cuz I have a headache, thanks.

This makes sense but it wasn’t exactly what I was looking for.

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

truth is that which is the case

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1 month, 3 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

The truth. The truth, or more well put, a truth is something that we perceive to be correct and is generally accepted and supported by “facts” of which stem from theories that we have created. Truth is worthless.

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (12 minutes after post)

Truth is dependent on objective reality and is perfect and eternal, not on subjective perception which is imperfect and capricious.

Rowass offline Verified User (7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 216 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (12 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
The truth. The truth, or more well put, a truth is something that we perceive to be correct and is generally accepted and supported by “facts” of which stem from theories that we have created. Truth is worthless.

I’m not sure about that.

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Ken offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 729 #
An Unknown Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (12 minutes after post)

Name a “truth” for me.

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (13 minutes after post)

The earth is approximately spherical.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (14 minutes after post)

Spheres have the sound “fear” in them.

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paper_weight offline Verified User (9 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Ny City, NY, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (15 minutes after post)

It’s easy if you use math …

☺ wrote:
The earth is approximately spherical.

Sorry, no burn on you, but someone could then say “pi is between 3 & 4″ sure … its easy to use math to post a truth.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (15 minutes after post)

correction

“Sphere” has the sound “fear” in it.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (16 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:
correction”Sphere” has the sound “fear” in it.

I like the first version better. :)

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (17 minutes after post)

pi

florie wrote:

Michael Leibman wrote:
correction”Sphere” has the sound “fear” in it.
I like the first version better. :)

Is that true?

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

paper_weight wrote:
It’s easy if you use math …

☺ wrote:
The earth is approximately spherical.
Sorry, no burn on you, but someone could then say “pi is between 3 & 4″ sure … its easy to use math to post a truth.

Why would that be a “burn on me”? Yes, “pi is between 3 and 4″ is another truth.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:
pi

florie wrote:

Michael Leibman wrote:
correction”Sphere” has the sound “fear” in it.
I like the first version better. :)

Is that true?

yup, I did.

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paper_weight offline Verified User (9 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Ny City, NY, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

Depends on your personality. I can perceive of a type of person who would be offended by that. No worries then.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

do

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Ken offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 729 #
An Unknown Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (19 minutes after post)

☺ wrote:
The earth is approximately spherical.

I would agree normally. But nothing is objective(to me). I could call something that is cubic, or prism like a sphere. And seeing as you don’t see exactly what I see we could perceive them differently. Perhaps I don’t believe in spheres. If you look at microscopic levels and beyond most “spherical” things do have edges. Small, but still there

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (20 minutes after post)

rowass wrote:

Michael Leibman wrote:
You could look at my profile and see what I wrote about it

This makes sense but it wasn’t exactly what I was looking for.

Yes — I didn’t remember what it was… it was me self-conconsciously trying to speak “truth” while considering the idea of truth, which leads to all these examples of a true thing rather than discussing what truth itself is.

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Rowass offline Verified User (7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 216 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (21 minutes after post)

This isn’t about the earth’s sphericalality. It is about the definition of
truth based on reason not fact.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (22 minutes after post)

Truth is beyond reason.

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (22 minutes after post)

Ken wrote:

☺ wrote:
The earth is approximately spherical.
I would agree normally. But nothing is objective(to me). I could call something that is cubic, or prism like a sphere. And seeing as you don’t see exactly what I see we could perceive them differently. Perhaps I don’t believe in spheres. If you look at microscopic levels and beyond most “spherical” things do have edges. Small, but still there

The earth is approximately spherical, not exactly spherical. You don’t have to go down to the microscopic level to see that it is different from an exact sphere. “The earth is not an exact sphere” is another truth. But you do raise the point that it may be difficult to describe truth precisely using human language. That is, it’s not completely clear what “approximately” means in this context. But it’s truth that for some appropriate definition of “approximately,” the earth is approximately spherical.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (22 minutes after post)

Truth is a lisp for truce, like math is a lisp of mass. It is not really the unknowable absolute truth, just a peace treaty between our knowing mind and this existence we experience. True or false?

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (23 minutes after post)

rowass wrote:
This isn’t about the earth’s sphericalality. It is about the definition oftruth based on reason not fact.

Truth is factual.

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Rowass offline Verified User (7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 216 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (24 minutes after post)

florie wrote:
Truth is beyond reason.

What then, is truth? Since you seem to know what it is
not

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (24 minutes after post)

“Truth is not really the unknowable absolute truth,” you say?

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (25 minutes after post)

it is true that i have a headache and that every sentence i type is the product of a mind with a really bad headache

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (5 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 198 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (25 minutes after post)

florie wrote:
“Truth is not really the unknowable absolute truth,” you say?

I’d say that is true, but somewhat meaningless.

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (25 minutes after post)

Truth consists of those conditions which prevail in the physical world.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:

florie wrote:
“Truth is not really the unknowable absolute truth,” you say?
I’d say that is true, but somewhat meaningless.

Well it is what you said, in effect. :)

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

Why ISN’T truth the unknowable truth?

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Ken offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 729 #
An Unknown Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

I don’t believe in “facts” or “truth”. Seeing as everyone is different with different perspectives I find that we can not know a truth. Also, I know I exist in some form but I do not know in what form that is. So the only truth I can accept is that I exist.

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Rowass offline Verified User (7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 216 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:
Truth is a lisp for truce, like math is a lisp of mass. It is not really the unknowable absolute truth, just a peace treaty between our knowing mind and this existence we experience. True or false?

This was what I was looking for.

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

Mathematical truth is really more problematic than physical truth, because it depends on your choice of axioms.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (27 minutes after post)

rowass wrote:

Michael Leibman wrote:
Truth is a lisp for truce, like math is a lisp of mass. It is not really the unknowable absolute truth, just a peace treaty between our knowing mind and this existence we experience. True or false?
This was what I was looking for.

I like this too. :)

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (28 minutes after post)

rowass wrote:

Michael Leibman wrote:
Truth is a lisp for truce, like math is a lisp of mass. It is not really the unknowable absolute truth, just a peace treaty between our knowing mind and this existence we experience. True or false?
This was what I was looking for.

If you already made up your mind that truth is subjective, then why did you ask the question? You are so wrong about that. Just because someone believes something does not make it true; they could be wrong.

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anonymom offline Verified User (1 month, 3 weeks) Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (28 minutes after post)

Truth is something that you experience yourself - like hunger. No one can explain and make you understand what hunger is - unless you starve and experience it yourself.

Truth is an experience not an intellectual exercises.

My 2 pennies worth!

- Man Anonymous
http://www.makarajyothi.com

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bark pench offline Verified User (9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 80 #
Amherst, MA, US | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (28 minutes after post)

If everybody in the world believes that the moon is square, that doesn’t make it true.

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florie offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 125 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 month, 3 weeks ago (29 minutes after post)

anonymom wrote:
Truth is something that you experience yourself - like hunger. No one can explain and make you understand what hunger is - unless you starve and experience it yourself.Truth is an experience not an intellectual exercises.My 2 pennies worth!- Man Anonymoushttp://www.makarajyothi.com

This is good, and seems the most true so far.

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