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The differences between McCain and Bush shouldn’t

be that difficult to see, but it seems as though many are trying to tie them together, though their differences are obvious and the tension between them has been ongoing.

Who remembers the 2000 Republican race? If you weren’t old enough to vote then and you think there’s no difference between McCain and Bush then you should do some research about that race.

McCain advocates the end to the detention of foreign terrorists in Cuba. Bush on the other hand thinks they should remain open.

Unlike Bush, McCain is against any forced interrogation methods, such as Water-boarding.

A week after the storm, McCain blasted Bush administration for the failed response to Hurricane Katrina.

The Bush administration has caused de-stabilization in the Middle East with the war in Iraq, some might say that because McCain voted for the war that he is to blame for that as well, but let’s face some reality there. The majority of Americans were for the war at the time because of the White House media propaganda, they were very convincing and we all heard the reports about WMD and we knew about Saddam trying to block the inspectors. Admit your own mistake about supporting the war and think before you hold it against McCain.

McCain wanted to use more troops for the surge, which shows his experience and from what we see now, might have been a good idea, but that ships sailed and what we have now is a de-stabilized region. So what can be done about that?

The Democrats want to set deadlines for pulling out the troops, which is basically impossible because you can’t remove troops from an unstable region safely. Ask anyone that you know that’s been in the military, it’s just not possible. McCain’s plan is to stabilize the region and set up bases like we have done in other countries such as Germany.

There are other differences between McCain and Bush, but I think the most important difference is that Bush is clearly incompetent and McCain, though not perfect (he’s only human, like the rest of us) has shown clear competence.

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Suc XVIII 3 #
Luton, I1, GB | 5 years ago (13 minutes after post)

yes

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Rosabella 9 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (21 minutes after post)

dear Fizz, it just happens a friend sent me this video today … What do you make of this? It seems a bit like Hillary’s coming under sniper fire in Bosnia I must say. Politicians!! :)

Original on YouTube.com

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Fizz 7 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (36 minutes after post)

I’m sure we’ll be seeing a lot of patched together video clips as this election year moves forward, but that’s just the usual political propaganda. Wouldn’t it be horrible if every word you ever spoke was clipped together like that? You ever made a mistake or changed your mind about something? Politicians are human too.

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Rosabella 9 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

True, Fizzy. :)

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barbyman 1 #
An Unknown Location | 5 years ago (1 hour, 22 minutes after post)

fizz you cant compare Germany with Iraq! The Germans had enough of war after 1945
all they wanted is to rebuild there country and get on with life.The Iraqi people if you know a little bit about history what the American government should have known,but lacked in history have in general three tribes .The lowest class are the Kurds .The funniest part is Bush made the Kurds leaders of all Iraq,just shows you the mentality of your government……

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Fizz 7 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (1 hour, 34 minutes after post)

I didn’t say I was comparing Iraq to Germany as it stands now, as I said the region is unstable and what McCain is proposing is a plan for the future after stabilization.

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eqspike 8 #
US | 5 years ago (17 hours, 56 minutes after post)

McCain used to be against forced interrogation, sadly that isn’t the case anymore. He’s changed his mind on that, like he has so many other things.

McCain voted against banning waterboarding, and said Bush should veto it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/0…

Also McCain, who in 2000, was strongly against lobbying influences has had to get rid of 5 high level campaign personnel because they were lobbyists, some with ties to Saudi Arabia, Burma, Somali warlords, Chalabi from Iraq etc.

McCain seems to have changed his mind a lot from his days in the 2000 campaign.

I do agree with you that McCain is far more competetnt than Bush, but their similarities are still troubling to me.

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Rosabella 9 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (18 hours, 40 minutes after post)

I don’t agree that McCain is “more competant” than Bush (someone who’s completely incompetant). I think McCain is beginning to show early signs of dementia. And he doesn’t look well.

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eqspike 8 #
US | 5 years ago (19 hours, 32 minutes after post)

I think that the people who actually believe these types of stories still are in the minority, and their numbers are shrinking.

I hope reason and rational thought will win out sooner rather than later.

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eqspike 8 #
US | 5 years ago (19 hours, 33 minutes after post)

Sorry That reply was to the wrong thread.

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Fizz 7 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (20 hours, 19 minutes after post)

Eqspike, many politians change their opinions about things based on new information, but I haven’t read anything that suggest that McCain is now for water-boarding. A lot of times things get voted for or against because they have other issues tacked onto them.

I am not going to sit here and say that McCain hasn’t appeared to change his views, but sometimes appearences are decieving. McCain is a career politician, he hasn’t always been inline and agreed with his party, which frankly has caused him not to have the party support he needed in the past. To get the nomination he needed the party support, it’s all politics.

It’s kind of like how Obama sat in church for 20 years under a Pastor that has extremist views, but didn’t disavow the Pastor until it affected his campaign negatively. It’s all politics.

I would have to disagree with Florie, that his faculties are failing, just because he’s blurbed on a few things, I couldn’t imagine trying to keep up dated on every single Government official or every Country in the whole world, so given his position it’s understandable when speaking off the cuff without a pre-written speech that a mistake or two would be made. It’s not a whole lot different then how Obama sounded in the PA debate, without his pre-written speech, frankly that night he sounded like a blithering idiot, but that doesn’t mean he is one. On the contrary, I don’t think he is.

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eqspike 8 #
US | 5 years ago (21 hours, 24 minutes after post)

Have you read McCain’s quotes about the bill. He didn’t vote the way he did basd on anything other than he wanted to increase the types of methods used for getting information from suspects including waterboarding.

I agree a person might misspeak when under the strain and pressure from campaigning. I don’t really hold too much stock in the misstatements he made.

But I do find fault that he sought Hagee’s endorsement even after Hagee made comments about Katrina being punishment for a planned gay pride parade in New Orleans. I find fault that he said he was proud of the endorsement.

I know that Hagee isn’t running for office anymore than Wright is.

One thing about Wright. Wright wasn’t delivering sermons like the ones on youtube for 20 years. If you ever get a chance to read some of the other sermons or those in their entire length, they aren’t really about those few minutes of craziness at all.

I will say that I think Wright is completely out of his mind, and I disagree with his political thoughts a lot of the time. Other times I think is exactly correct.

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Fizz 7 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (23 hours, 4 minutes after post)

Accepting an endorsement isn’t the same as seeking it out, when faced with critism over accepting the endorsement from Hagee, McCain addressed the issue, he acknowledged that Hagee has made inflamitory statements that he doesn’t agree with, but accepted and appreciated the endorsement because he knows that Hagee is influential.

If McCain is going to be critisized and questioned for who endorses him, then why does Obama get a free pass for being endorsed by Louis Farrakhan? That seems to be a non-issue and I don’t understand that.

The only time I watch youtube videos are when people post them on here, Wright can be whoever he wants to be, he’s not running for the Presidency, my question is about Obama and he knew the views of Wright long before now and was obviously fine with it before it hurt his campaign. Which just shows me, he is no different then any other politician.

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eqspike 8 #
US | 5 years ago (23 hours, 32 minutes after post)

I believe you are correct that McCain’s acceptance is political. But that doesn’t exactly give me confidence in the guy’s integrity if he will sell out to the likes of Hagee, and say that he is proud to have the endorsement.

As far as Obama he rejected and renounced Farrakan. There is a difference. I probably shouldn’t bring it up, though, because I do agree with you that some whack job endorsing a candidate isn’t really an important issue. As far as Wright goes, Obama never sought political guidance from him, only spiritual, so I don’t think it’s a big issue.

I guess I’m just discussing this because you seem level headed, and open about it. I don’t think Wright or Hagee are real big issues, but I enjoyed the discussion for discussion’s sake, so I was happy to continue. I hope it isOK

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Fizz 7 #
An Undisclosed Location | 5 years ago (23 hours, 35 minutes after post)

I have to be ok with it, because I’m the one that opened it up for discussion, lol

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4 years, 11 months ago (4 weeks, 1 day after post)

lots of good points but just like Bush, McCain will just make the rich, richer and the rest of us (the majority) are screwed. although there are many political issues that I have strong feelings about and are important; bottom line….my kids need to eat

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