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yup, what surferdude said. just talk to him casually and he’ll listen.
Who the hell knows everything? Not me, or anyone I know! The only person that can save you, is you! You need to have more faith in yourself. You are smart enough and you can make better things happen in your life! :)
why do think you have to now every thing now? Just try to learn 1 new thing a day
you can never know everything. you’ll get burn out. leave that to God
I find that leaving things to god yields little results. All I know is that I exist, and I care about me. I make my own luck, and I will make my own life. I don’t need a god to do it for me, and I am not going to wait around my whole life for one to do so. Maybe you want to wait around for help that may never come. I find that doing things yourself has a higher success rate.
Adam the burninator wrote:
I find that leaving things to god yields little results. All I know is that I exist, and I care about me. I make my own luck, and I will make my own life. I don’t need a god to do it for me, and I am not going to wait around my whole life for one to do so. Maybe you want to wait around for help that may never come. I find that doing things yourself has a higher success rate.
Very well said Adam! :)
Adam the burninator wrote:
I find that leaving things to god yields little results. All I know is that I exist, and I care about me. I make my own luck, and I will make my own life. I don’t need a god to do it for me, and I am not going to wait around my whole life for one to do so. Maybe you want to wait around for help that may never come. I find that doing things yourself has a higher success rate.
Adam, by formulating yourself like You do, do you not accept the actual excistence of God? And if God’s present, and such terrible things happen between humans now, how will it be the place God is not?
Everybody believes in God! But only those who accept their own beliefs, can say they know him!
robertnorway wrote:
Everybody believes in God! But only those who accept their own beliefs, can say they know him!
Hmm. You see, I believe there is a certain group of people, called “atheists”…
I, myself, don’t. But you can believe he’s there while still dealing with your own problems. I think putting your life on idle and saying “god will do it”, is naive and, in fact, extremely lazy.
Although I am not atheist, I understand what Adam is saying. Too many people wait around for God to save them. It is quite possible being saved by God means death. It is my opinion that we are here for a reason and we have things to learn and do, so God is hoping we don’t need to much coddling. I think you can pray to God to guide you, but if you are asking him to save you then I think that is asking to leave this world. The biggest issues people face is that want someone to do all the work for them and the are to afraid to listen to what the world is trying to tell them. No one can save you from yourself, so it is so important to make sure you are someone you love! If you hate yourself you are only going to continue down a dark path of destruction. God can’t make you like yourself and he won’t save you from yourself. He might however be disappointed that you are wasting the life he gave you!
Some good points there, Maximina, but I disagree strongly with you on what you say about that being saved by God means death! Being saved by God means LIFE! Eternal! Free from negative things! Full of love!
And Adam: I do definately not put my life on idle and say “God will do it”. He’s done enough already by sending his son to die in my place! (Since I am a sinner (everybody is), and the toll of sin is death) It’s up to me to decide if I want to give something back, but when you’re first filled with God’s spirit, it becomes totally natural. Why would I else be saying this in some random forum on the net! ;) I think people need it!!
One more thing to you, Adam: I must admit I said that “everybody believes in God”-thing pretty much just to provoce people.. But there is something in it. You may call yourself an atheist, but most people do believe in something more than this simple life on earth, although they can’t pinpoint what they believe. It’s a relative statement from my side, though.
robertnorway wrote:
Some good points there, Maximina, but I disagree strongly with you on what you say about that being saved by God means death! Being saved by God means LIFE! Eternal! Free from negative things! Full of love!
And Adam: I do definately not put my life on idle and say “God will do it”. He’s done enough already by sending his son to die in my place! (Since I am a sinner (everybody is), and the toll of sin is death) It’s up to me to decide if I want to give something back, but when you’re first filled with God’s spirit, it becomes totally natural. Why would I else be saying this in some random forum on the net! ;) I think people need it!!
One more thing to you, Adam: I must admit I said that “everybody believes in God”-thing pretty much just to provoce people.. But there is something in it. You may call yourself an atheist, but most people do believe in something more than this simple life on earth, although they can’t pinpoint what they believe. It’s a relative statement from my side, though.
The reason I say that is I don’t believe in the whole “saving” process in Christianity. I think God can guide us, but only we are meant to save our souls. I respect your opinion and we can agree to disagree. What makes the world so wonderful in my opinion is that we have different thoughts, beliefs, and ideas! :)
Good point, but I think that there is only ONE truth that is NOT adjustable. I could go into a camera-shop, for instance, and ask the shop-keeper to show me the best camera he had, then leave with it without paying. I could defend myself by saying that “that’s the way it works for me! It’s great that we can have different opinions, isn’t it?”
But that’s not how it works, is it? ;)
the reason humans have problems with each other, in a nutshell>>>>>>>>
“but I think that there is only ONE truth that is NOT adjustable.”
it seems the majority of humanity need answers to everything, even if it may not be true, or even if they do not understand it, they still put their entire faith in it. they ask “give me my purpose, because i need one, how could i exist without such a thing?” they get their vague answers in various forms, especially from vague religions. thats nothing other than scary and dangerous, and why humanity sucks.
if we lived for humanity and each other, day to day, we wouldnt have any problems.
beleifs are so selfish, because they are own in our context.
i would like to raise a new question;
is it ever going to possible than humanity will free ourselves from such self-centered attitudes? are we capable to “get over ourselves” as a species?
i fear we are not, i feel sorry for my children, and their children. this species is a mess. we need to grow up.
ayc,
It is so awesome that you are mindful of God and humanity! You are thinking, not just with your mind, but with your heart! Keep searching! He will make himself known to you! And, you will find him to be truly awesome!
Jeremiah 29:13 says:
you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. I will be found by you, says the Lord.
ayc wrote:
the reason humans have problems with each other, in a nutshell>>>>>>>>
“but I think that there is only ONE truth that is NOT adjustable.”
it seems the majority of humanity need answers to everything, even if it may not be true, or even if they do not understand it, they still put their entire faith in it. they ask “give me my purpose, because i need one, how could i exist without such a thing?” they get their vague answers in various forms, especially from vague religions. thats nothing other than scary and dangerous, and why humanity sucks.
if we lived for humanity and each other, day to day, we wouldnt have any problems.
beleifs are so selfish, because they are own in our context.
i would like to raise a new question;
is it ever going to possible than humanity will free ourselves from such self-centered attitudes? are we capable to “get over ourselves” as a species?
i fear we are not, i feel sorry for my children, and their children. this species is a mess. we need to grow up.
Brillant! :) I totally agree!
Sander611 wrote:
ayc,
It is so awesome that you are mindful of God and humanity! You are thinking, not just with your mind, but with your heart! Keep searching! He will make himself known to you! And, you will find him to be truly awesome!
Jeremiah 29:13 says:
you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. I will be found by you, says the Lord.
I think you missed the whole point of his last reply!
ayc wrote:
the reason humans have problems with each other, in a nutshell>>>>>>>>
“but I think that there is only ONE truth that is NOT adjustable.”
it seems the majority of humanity need answers to everything, even if it may not be true, or even if they do not understand it, they still put their entire faith in it. they ask “give me my purpose, because i need one, how could i exist without such a thing?” they get their vague answers in various forms, especially from vague religions. thats nothing other than scary and dangerous, and why humanity sucks.
if we lived for humanity and each other, day to day, we wouldnt have any problems.
beleifs are so selfish, because they are own in our context.
i would like to raise a new question;
is it ever going to possible than humanity will free ourselves from such self-centered attitudes? are we capable to “get over ourselves” as a species?
i fear we are not, i feel sorry for my children, and their children. this species is a mess. we need to grow up.
Ok, I’ll need to be more precise here.. I am not in position to say that I am in posession of the one and only truth. NO ONE is! But I think there IS one solution, and that humans can not adjust what already is! Those who have made their own truths saying that “I have the solution, follow me” has only been digging their own grave, and made things hard for other people!
So use your own mind, but use it to search for the ONE truth, and not to choose the easy way and modify something that is already set as an standard! That’s what I’m searching for!
um i dont mean to be like a non beliver but like didnt god 1st create earth then the things on it then adam when did he create dinos.
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Well, if you wish to make religion a science, I may point out that as a science, we would constantly be discovering new things about it. Sure, the atom is not adjustable. It was not Perfectly round in the 1500’s and then magically turned into a nucleus made out of smaller parts. We developed a new theory, that was closer to the truth than the previous.
So sure, there is only one truth. But switching theories is not changing the truth, it is getting closer to it(or farther away).
The point is, adjusting your beliefs is not flip-flopping. It is a sign of progress and of open mindedness. Better to keep an open mind always than stubbornly adhere to one truth, for you may have found the wrong one.
Although I am fairly certain of my own beliefs, I cannot look down on others, because I have no PROOF to support them. Sure, I think this the most logically viable choice. I think that as the default view of science is skeptisism, I am justified in being an atheist. But that does not mean I can preach to others to come to my truth. That I should stick to a theory I have only as a default position.
*Ramble Ramble*
You might want to start earning it, because he’s not a big cuddly teddy bear in the sky, with a neon open sign:)
i agree with robertnorway!” trust in the Lord with all your heart && lean not onto your own understandings. in all your ways acknowledge him and he shall direct your paths” Proverbs 3:5-6 it doesnt take forever or your whole life…you just have to have faith so stop being lazy and just have faith in the Lord && stop thinkin you can do everything yourself because you cant…u can only get so far…its that simple
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How is not having faith being lazy? Having faith, in the commonly used sense of the word, where someone sticks to a belief regardless of evidence, is much lazier than being open minded. Faith and open mindedness are opposites. In having faith, you are rejecting all other theories without consideration. It is very easy not to think, but very hard to actually logically consider opposing ideas.
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