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What was in the beggining?

Well I have asked a few religious people and this is what on of them said, God was at the beggining, before he created the earth, but one thing that really confused me, is who is devil/Satan and why was he created? This is deeper explanation:
“Well if you read Jeremiah (I knew you before I formed you in your mother’s womb. Jeremiah 1:5), you can notice that God knew us as spirits, and that is how he knows us, before he created earth, Gods kingdom existed as a whole piece, and in that piece we were spirits, and he had angels, and he was the King of his spiritual kingdom, then he wanted to create a place with good and evil so that people could choose whether or not they wanted to serve him, so that they would have a choice, because if they didnt, we people would be as mindless robots. After that he wanted to create a world in where he would Jesus his son, as the only link, to salvation to him through Jesus, but Satan disagreed, ad he wanted to take the spirits to God, but instead of Jesus , he would take the glory, now we are here to choose”

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Now again my mind is bothering me, how can he really tell exactly, what we axactly are and arent if future is in our hands? Well , I believe that when he wanted to create the world in which there was good and evil, he would need evil, and that is why he used Shaitan as the evil. Just like he made pharaon evil in egypt, before israelits escaped egypt thousands of years ago. Now if you look at it that way, Satan isnt evil because he had no choice, and in the religions who believe in the story given above they believe that Satan was the highest spirit in gods kingdom (note , it is religions such as mormons, jehova witnesses , and all thing that I choose to call New Age Agenda”)

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If you dont understand this story, read this:
God told Adam & Eva not to eat the tree of apple, but they did, when they did , they discovered they were naked, so he lied to them, or again, he witheld truth, which is a lie if you ask me, (If you understand context no.1, notice that he gave us no choice, too have a choice, when , he put evil, before good, so we would all have to go through evil, or live in it, since he didnt tell we were naked, until adam & eva ate the apple from the tree)

3.What if Satan really isnt evil, but both God and Satan are right? , (this is f***ed up context, so just ignore it if you dont have a based theoretical, answer)

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Hope offline Verified User (2 years, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (6 minutes after post)

Adam and Eve knew that they were naked, and God didn’t lie to them in any way shape or form.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (11 minutes after post)

I’ll explain my theory:
God is the “universe” (including outside the universe)
We are part of this universe, therefore part of God.
God has given us a soul, which is God-like, but is not “the universe” as God is.
Our spirit is what makes us who we are.
Good and Bad is spiritually made. Something that affects the spirit of another can directly affect Karma, which will affect your fate, which is controlled by the universe, or God.

Or something like that, I’m not too much in my Philosopher mood.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (16 minutes after post)

Lol.
Here then:
You will die.
That is the only fact in this world today.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (18 minutes after post)

“i say if it feels good do it”
Yeah! lets turn back into wild animals!

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (20 minutes after post)

omarfawakhir wrote:
they knew they were? , well they didnt know it was wrong

It wasn’t wrong. It was only AFTER they sinned that they were ASHAMED and hid. It wasn’t their nakedness that was the sin…it was eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It was doing what God had told them not to do, deliberate disobedience.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (21 minutes after post)

You steal without knowing it, I don’t see the difference.
If you have something, someone else doesn’t have it.
;3
thats Taoism for you.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (26 minutes after post)

I think it is a metaphor to simply realize that your dreams will never be attainable without being able to resist the sin that is put out by fate.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (29 minutes after post)

Fate is simply the working of the universe, “God”.
Its the same principles that the world keeps spinning,
and the universe expanding.

I’m actually a Unitarian Universalist.
Its funny, I’m not Asian, although I respect Japanese Culture, I believe in God, I go to a Lutheran Church.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (36 minutes after post)

I don’t think its appropriate to not capitalize “God” and/or refer to God as he or she, either lol.

As for good and evil?

Evil is selfishness.
Evil is not having self control.
Evil is not having tolerance.
Evil is not respecting others’ will.

Good is selflessness.
Good is having complete self control.
Good is having tolerance.
Good is respecting that which you cannot control.

Why? Because the world will become a black ball of ash if you don’t follow, and most people think thats NOT ******* GOOD.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (40 minutes after post)

Lol, Its the simple fact that you can’t choose something that you don’t realize exists.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (47 minutes after post)

So you think breathing is fate? Well, until you die of course.

Heh, sorry.

Yes exactly, fate is something like this:
You are Born
You Die.

No mater what paths you chose, this will happen.

Fate is not how you do something, it is that you will do something.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (48 minutes after post)

It seems that you’re already in hell. Did you realize that?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (53 minutes after post)

Yes. lol.

I’ll explain, I believe in Karma.
You have a Soul, which is part of God, made by God, therefore.
All of your actions affect your soul, which affect God.
Your spirit something completely different.
It is created as you live on this Earth.
Your personality you could say, or your DNA.

What you do now affects what will happen to you later.

There will always be war, whether by countries or by viruses lol.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (56 minutes after post)

Unitarian Universalist

Yeah, I believe the soul and spirit are two different things, each to his own though :)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (58 minutes after post)

“Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.”

You still think you can change “fate” even though you agreed its something that “WILL” happen?

UU just advocates searching for your own beliefs and truth, and thats how i feel.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 6 months ago (1 hour, 4 minutes after post)

Okay, to change fate, you quit living every day in “the flow.” the flow is where you get up, you eat breakfast, you go to work, you come home, you try to do something to relax, you go to sleep, you repeat, and any problems that come in the way you solve.

Out of the flow you realize you choose when you eat how much, what, (if at all) work, sleep, how you do things, its your life. “You create your own happiness” comes into play alot, you have to get past all the “bad” things that aren’t really that bad. Realize that owning materialistic things requires you to work in this materialistic world though.
and there you go, I’m out~ see you.

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