Are hallucinations bad?
I was very recently having a big disscussion with a person here who said “A true hallucination that you are listening to and obeying can become deadly dangerous. Tell your parent or adult when you are ready or if things get weird for you. Take care and be careful.”
Do you as an individual believe that hallucinations are deadly dangerous?
- yes
- no
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Everyone hallucinates occasionally. It’s not a problem in and of itself until you can’t tell the difference, but you still might want to address the underlying cause.
It is not the hallucination that is dangerous it is obeying an hallucination that can be dangerous.
i dont think they are dangerous as such but they certainly can be.
if they are bothering you or disrupting your life, then i would see a doctor who can easily help you.
well that makes more sense then what i got out of your posts then. of course, following the direct orders of a “halluciation”, when they obviously put you or others at risk is dangerous. but i believe that some, no, most of the commands of a “hallucination” are of good means, they may look bad, but then again, what is bad but another word we humans have created to describe stuff that we personnaly do not like.
It did not take long before they realised that if a person of high reverence was to say that something is bad, more would follow his words and it would soon become a sin to do it. now, say that the person who said something was bad was wrong and he just created a sin that wasnt bad. would following his tachings and ideas become secretly worng and corrupt like it is, apparantly, to follow the ideas of a “hallucination”? could it be possible that everything we are doing is wrong and was the offspring of one misinformed man who happened to have power?
yes, thats totally possible.
but each person has to make his own judgement about right and wrong. luckily we live in a time and place where we have the freedom to choose what to believe in.
who is to say, that by drinking this coca cola i had just taken a sip of, was acctually wrong? what if, by some extrordinary bout of time i have just commited mass murder to a nanoscopic species that inhabits liquids? would that be worng? is murder wrong? and why? if it is, why do we send men out to kill and they come back heros.
I do love how we have that right to decide for ourselves
well they say that morals are dependant on the time and the place.
so whats wrong in some cultures, isnt wrong in ours, and vice versa.
Well, there ought to be a little more to it than personal ‘dislike’, something is ‘bad’ if it does more harm than good. Otherwise I guess you’ve stumbled across the Euthyphrean dilemma (Euthyphro dilemma, if you don’t like applying modern forms to greek names).
ZOMG! was like a mind rush! i shouldnt read stuff that intelligent this late
Short version is more or less ‘An authority can’t declare something evil’ because if it’s ‘evilness’ depends on their declaration, they could just as well define the opposite to be ‘evil’ instead and their claim is meaningless. If something is really universally ‘evil’, someone telling you that is redundant.
Humans have, for a variety of reasons, developed a strong sense of empathy and the result seems to be that our only really universal ideas of ‘evil’ revolve around doing harm for no reason.
Its good that you ask enquiring questions - but your frame of reference is all s***wed up.
The thing you’re not taking into account is your humanity.
First you have to closely identify with your fellow man, and you do this by studying our collective history and reading about people’s trials and misadventures, and then you make judgements on their decisions regarding their morality.
Once you’ve done this a lot, then you’ll be able to distinguish the difference between good and bad.
The problem with taking LSD is that you lose your frame of reference as a human. Reading and studying is really the only way to understand humanity, our laws, customs and morals.
and lsd has to do with what?
anyway. how are you to say that my point of veiw is screwed up when it could very well be the complete opposite?
sorry - must have been hallucinating! LOL
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Reading and studying is really the only way to understand humanity, our laws, customs and morals.
I’ve found that to be much closer to hallucination than the learning I’ve acquired in direct interaction with living people. Not that high intellectually learned hallucination is bad exactly, but I like getting closer to reality and truth if I can.
Alphaknight wrote:
who is to say, that by drinking this coca cola i had just taken a sip of, was acctually wrong? what if, by some extrordinary bout of time i have just commited mass murder to a nanoscopic species that inhabits liquids? would that be worng? is murder wrong? and why? if it is, why do we send men out to kill and they come back heros.
I do love how we have that right to decide for ourselves
killing human beings is always wrong not matter what the reason.
But is it AS wrong to kill someone who will otherwise kill others as it is to kill an ‘innocent’ person? If you’re a real pacifist the answer is yes, but most people weigh harm against benefit.
Wow this is an interesting post i didnt think anything of it at first because i never had an hallucination. But coming back and reading everything makes me think. I mean is murder a sin? People kill other people everyday but most people get away with it. And because most of us have hearts and compassion we see it as a sin. But is it really? Some people are born with the instinct to kill. First they start killing animals when they are children but then move on to humans in their adulthood. Is it their fault they were born with that mindset? Just like how some people think its evil to kill animals and others think nothing of it. Ive always wanted to ask these questions but didnt know how to
And when i was younger i always thought what if i was drinking a living thing and killing it. But i never asked anyone just thought it… Im going to look more into this. It makes a lot of sense to me!
Well they wont approve my reply and i dont remember what i wrote.
All i have to say is that this is a great post! I learned something new tonight. Im going to look more into this because it might answer a lot of questions i have been asking or thinking to ask for years
Neat thing about ideas and information: You can give it away without losing anything!
Alphaknight wrote:
It did not take long before they realised that if a person of high reverence was to say that something is bad, more would follow his words and it would soon become a sin to do it. now, say that the person who said something was bad was wrong and he just created a sin that wasnt bad. would following his tachings and ideas become secretly worng and corrupt like it is, apparantly, to follow the ideas of a “hallucination”? could it be possible that everything we are doing is wrong and was the offspring of one misinformed man who happened to have power?
Yes :) a few men
Thats true
Neat thing about questions and learning: You can receive it while gaining knowledge!! lol (if that make any sense)
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Are hallucinations bad?
I was very recently having a big disscussion with a person here who said “A true hallucination that you are listening to and obeying can become deadly dangerous. Tell your parent or adult when you are ready or if things get weird for you. Take care and be careful.”
Do you as an individual believe that hallucinations are deadly dangerous?
[poll: yes, no]
my first attempt at a poll so dont start raging if it doesnt work like i think it does.
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No, a real post is a stick in the ground. This is just photons from the matrix that your mind assembles into the meaning that pleases you most.
Some hallucinations where you are being attacked can be dangerous. Even though it’s your imagination, your body responds to it the same. Sounds, Emotions, and Visions all contribute. It could kill you depending on the hallucination.
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