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I’m getting really tired of people responding with ‘trust god’

Seriously, those of you who tell people here to ‘trust god’ or ‘accept jesus’ (or any of the other forms this response takes), do you think that this is somehow useful advice? Do you think that its appropriate to tell people that their problems will go away if they would just join your church? Do you think its defensible to push your religion on people when they’re feeling vulnerable?

To me, that kind of comment is not far removed from telling some desperate person that their problems are a RESULT of not sharing your faith. Whether you believe that to be the case or not, its not helping them any.

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absolutelyamy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (19 minutes after post)

its easier to trust in something larger than yourself
helps people have a sense of order and security

they might think its useful advice because it works for them but its not the same for all people

and the rest of your questions seem rhetorical and a little rude but i see where youre coming from

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Alexaxas offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (44 minutes after post)

I apologize if I was out of line there. If you’re religious, that’s your personal decision and I really have no major problem with it. If you have real advice to give someone and its colored by your religion, thats fine. Everyone’s comments are colored by their culture, its normal and unavoidable (and not something we should want to avoid, either).

I’m just irritated by the people who pop up, and I admit its not often, with no actual answer or advice but only with a religious message. I probably see a disproportionate amount because of the posts I look at. It just seems like bad taste, to me, to respond to someone who’s looking for real solutions to say ‘Well, if you trust in god, everything will turn out ok’. It just seems like they might as well have not posted anything.

Again, I’m sorry if I’m out of line here. I don’t mean to offend, I’m just blowing off some steam.

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absolutelyamy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (59 minutes after post)

agreed
you guys might find what dane cook has to say about atheism humerous
i know i did

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Alexaxas offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 11 minutes after post)

I don’t have, and I don’t want, the authority to tell other people not to post about their religion. And I’m really not talking about people saying ‘god bless’ with the general meaning of ‘good luck’ or ‘take care’. I do see value in providing sympathy when you can’t provide any other help. I’m specifically referring to people suggesting prayer or spirituality in lieu of action. And, if you’re set on suggesting that someone pray, perhaps as a form of comforting ritual, I think you ought to be careful about how you phrase it.

Maybe I’m getting oversensitive living down here in the wacko bible belt and getting preached at every other day.

amydaniellex3 wrote:
you guys might find what dane cook has to say about atheism humerousi know i did

Is that the bit where he talks about the guy who says he’s going to come back as a tree or something like that? Cook’s not quite my speed, but some of my friends think he’s hysterical.

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absolutelyamy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 12 minutes after post)

Alexaxas wrote:
Is that the bit where he talks about the guy who says he’s going to come back as a tree or something like that? Cook’s not quite my speed, but some of my friends think he’s hysterical.

Yes! That’s the one. I admire that man. He is so witty it’s ridiculous.

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Alexaxas offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 14 minutes after post)

I’m more into absurdist stuff like Demetri Martin and Mitch Hedberg.

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absolutelyamy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 17 minutes after post)

Never heard of them! I’ll youtube soon :)

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Rico offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 19 minutes after post)

Thats why I “Trust Dog”

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Alexaxas offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 21 minutes after post)

“I like the American-Canadian border, ‘cuz if you’re walking on the border with a friend, and you push your friend into Canada, he can’t push you back right away, ‘cuz first he has to go through customs. ‘What brings you to Canada?’:[Points to the side] ‘That a**hole.’ ‘When are you leaving?’ ‘As soon as I regain my equilibrium!’”

Why do the best comedians always seem to overdose?

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1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 32 minutes after post)

my 2pence worth:
i think people saying trust in god, or jesus or whatever is a cop out. by relying on “greater forces” they are not accepting responsibility and passing the buck. Sitting around waiting for someone else to sort out problems is what children do.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 54 minutes after post)

TJ (Life is a HWY) wrote:
the aims of most Evangelical christians are to persuade the reader follow “the good news” and let God (preferably their version of God) into their lives. For that is what Evangelicalism means - to evangelize - to Crusade for Christ.

I’ve never really understood Evangelical Christians. When they get together do they just try to convert each other by hitting each other in the heads with the densest, heaviest and hardest book around? That’s how they often try to treat me, but they do it with a smile, like “sure this is going to screw up your life if I get a blow in, but I’ll go to heaven so ha!”

I appreciate the religion policy on the site because it seems to prevent some of the worst of those abuses and let me see the people who might normally act like that as caring, struggling people like myself.

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nutbox2 offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (8 hours, 5 minutes after post)

It’s not a matter of if they ‘join your church, your problems would be gone’.
If your so sick of hearing it,
WHY don’t you try praying to God for help.
Thats what those people mean.
EVERYONE has a choice to their own religion.
Those people shouldn’t be PUSHING IT on you.
But, maybe you need to take their advise.
TRY JESUS

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PomPom offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
GB | 1 year, 5 months ago (8 hours, 38 minutes after post)

its even worse when they quote the bible as if it is an irrefuted source and god as being jesus who was sent to save us, i happen to believe we are all accountable for our actions and it is making fun of god to say that he had to manifest into a human to get himself killed to make people saved .. just doesnt make sense to me and its even worse when you see the people answering are just indoctrinated and arent even thinking of what they are telling you to do

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bdougl offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (11 hours, 11 minutes after post)

Alexaxas I think that when someone replies with one of the phrases you are talking about they are not trying to convert you but let you know what helps them in their personal lives though I have seen some posts here where people have said in the name of Jesus/GOD that someone was going to hell or GOD hates them for what they are doing thats just plain hogwash no person can condemn another to hell and GOD hates no one. I can see why the non believers are so offended by these acts I would be too. No one can force another to believe in something they don’t want too.JMHO BRD

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okei! offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 104 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (11 hours, 40 minutes after post)

then dont, yet ur still miserable

pray it works. no need to be involve in one religion, it is a relship u create w/ ur God that matters. hope u will be enlightened

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Littleton, CO, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (12 hours, 30 minutes after post)

mas1s wrote:
I’m not suggesting that you get the 10 commandments chucked at you as a reply - I was more of why object to the general ‘god bless you’ ‘you’ll be in my prayer’ group to which I have no objection.

The thing is, religion can be used powerfully for good or evil. I think the problem the poster is trying to get help with is not helpful religious-minded responses, but unhelpful or dangerous ones.

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1 year, 5 months ago (5 days, 13 hours after post)

i have to ask but if you are going to complain about someone telling you to trust in god and call that useless advice and inappropriate, what makes you think that telling a girl to “get rid of that kid… your going to ruin its entire life” is such appropriate and great advice? you don’t have to answer i was just making a point.
positive thinking, that might help with your problems a little bit.

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Alexaxas offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (5 days, 16 hours after post)

If someone says “Trust in god i>and /i> try this [practical, real world suggestion]” then one can still disregard the ‘Trust in god’ bit, if they choose, and still leave some real world advice. I assume that people who come here want more than just to hear someone restate the answer they’ve already decided on. I don’t see any reason to restrict my advice to things that people want to hear, particularly when I think that better answers are being left unsaid. If you disagree with me, feel free to point it out. I rather like hearing opposing views, they give me an opportunity to consider other angles.

And, in my experience, ‘positive thinking’ is less than worthless. It provides nothing but a false, potentially dangerously so, sense of comfort.

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missjojo12 offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (6 days, 7 hours after post)

i am sad for you, you don’t seem to have anything good to say. and what do you think negative thinking is going to give you? just quit being so angry. positive thinking forces you to see the good in the world. it’s not that bad, it could always be worse, you can get out of this, you can do it; those are all ways of positive thinking. it doesn’t sound like much but if you can’t be positive during hard times then you won’t get out.

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lismarie offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (3 weeks, 1 day after post)

I think we need to be careful in the words that we choose to say to people. People have different experiences with those words. Just this week I was misunderstood by a good friend. Anyhow I think you have some valid points. If ‘positive’ thinking provides a false sense of comfort then you shouldn’t be thinking on it. I am not sure what you mean by ‘positive thinking,’ but I can relate to not liking to think on false things. For example, say you feel like someone at home is ignoring you. It is easy to imagine that they are, but sometimes people read into things and put themselves through torture. I have this problem a lot. It is hard to think on what is true and real sometimes. To take things at face value. I’m not finished…

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lismarie offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (3 weeks, 1 day after post)

Maybe you are thinking about positive thinking in another way… maybe you don’t want to imagine good things because you get disappointed???? Am I close?

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Captain K offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (1 month after post)

First of all nobody’s problems will just go away if they trust God so thats completely false. We will always have problems especially in the fallen world we live in. As people created by God our created purpose is to have a relationship with God. I’m 44 and spent a lot of time trying to figure things out in life but until I truly realized who I was in Christ did it really begin to make sense. I see posts by people who havn’t even begun to live or are just going through the fire and thinks its the end of their world. In this world we will have all kinds of things and trials happen to us. In speaking to my daughters I would give you the same advise as I would them there is someone bigger than ourselves that loves more then we will ever understand or comprehend we just need to reach out to Him and let Him in.

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okei! offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 104 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 month, 3 weeks after post)

never be tired in trusting god!

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