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Do Girls Really Like Dating Jerks?

By Christine Hassler and Jason Ryan Dorsey
Special to Yahoo! Personals .. date –>Updated: Feb 24, 2008

SHE SAYS:

No, but we think we do. As someone who dated a jerk, whom I now refer to as my “learning experience,” I admit to falling under the jerk spell.
Here’s how the jerk spell works: we meet the jerk and in some twisted way are seduced by his confidence, charm, and passion. We don’t see these as the disguises they are: confidence is really arrogance, charm comes from him being a player, and his passion is being the center of his own universe.

The jerk sniffs out our insecurities and uses them to reel us in with compliments that eventually turn into criticisms. And if we see a red flag, like the time my “learning experience” told me his definition of a relationship was “light, fun and physical,” we play mind games with ourselves. We use our normally rational inner voice to convince ourselves that we can tame him or that with the right kind of girlfriend he will lose his jerk armor and transform into a leading man fit for a romantic comedy. Come on ladies, what are we thinking?!
A jerk loves being a jerk — way more than he loves us. I guess if they’ve always gotten away with treating people poorly and nobody ever set them straight, why would they change? Besides, a jerk seems to always have an attractive woman on his arm laughing at his mediocre jokes and ignoring his wandering gaze. How? I think it’s because deep down every woman wants a challenge or a little danger. It’s not really the jerk we like; it’s the thrill of the chase, the rush of adrenaline when the jerk’s phone number pops up on our cell (which is usually right after last call).
However, it’s been my experience that “jerkdom” isn’t some phase we can pull a guy out of. Guys only outgrow that phase when life no longer succumbs to their demands. Any woman who has dated a jerk for more than a week knows that it’s a hollow relationship that ultimately leaves you disappointed, hurt, and commiserating with your friends.
The only challenge worth overcoming when dating a jerk is to not let him affect or define your self worth. So if there is a jerk out there making your heart go pitter-pat and estrogen is messing with your reasoning, go ahead and let him woo you, but when he asks for your number tell him that you only date guys who prove their value by respecting a woman. If he’s a jerk he’ll roll his eyes, say you have an attitude and snicker as he leaves. If he sincerely accepts your ground rules, then chances are you should give him at least one date to prove he’s relationship material. Although you may not be spellbound at first, the nice guy without all the smooth answers may ultimately fulfill your needs in more meaningful ways.

HE SAYS:

As much as I hate to say it, girls love jerks! At least until the jerk stops calling, which is usually right after he gets what he wants. Speaking from the guy’s perspective, I’ve never quite understood what draws sane, attractive, bright women to guys who act like jerks. Maybe it is the thrill of the unexpected. Maybe it is trying to outplay him in his own game. Maybe it is hoping that deep down he is a nice guy and you are going to prove it to your naysayer friends. What I do know is that too many women who could easily be in a healthy relationship instead choose the cliffhanger ending of dating a jerk that walks with a swagger, winks at anything that moves, and always has a one-liner at the ready.

Truth be told, there aren’t many nice guys who haven’t considered acting like a jerk, especially when they steal your girl (here I speak from experience). However, daydreaming of jerkdom fades as soon as nice guys remember one thing: being a jerk means acting like a jerk all the time. That means causing the mental pain and emotional anguish that drives a girl to phone her friends — guy friends included — crying about what the jerk did to her in public on their first date. Even guys bear the brunt of girls who fall head over heels for jerks.
If you’re a girl who feels worse about yourself with every jerk you date, I hope you will make a big move towards respecting yourself and go on a date with a nice guy. They may not offer the drama and constant criticism you’ve come to expect, but they also won’t try to hook up with you after dropping off their other girlfriend.

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spiratec9 online Verified User (6 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 51 #
Burnaby, BC, CA | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (32 minutes after post)

they seem too.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 32 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (51 minutes after post)

ive had that problem! lol i thought arrogance was confidence but really its just lack of it.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 32 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (51 minutes after post)

when i realise that it loses the thrill.

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2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 38 minutes after post)

So us nice guys are screwed either way?

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 32 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 39 minutes after post)

why wud they be screwed either way?

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 40 minutes after post)

very well said! both of you. i think a lot of women do date jerks because they think they can change them. they think that somewhere under neath all the ‘jerkdom’ there is a genuine guy. and women hope that they are just soo special that he will change for them! unfortanately, they never do!

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 41 minutes after post)

no…nice guys are not screwed! being with jerks is some kind of a game that women play with themselves. in the end the nice guy wins!

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2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 46 minutes after post)

One can hope lol. How does the nice guy get the girl though?

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 32 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 48 minutes after post)

jezzy9 wrote:
very well said! both of you. i think a lot of women do date jerks because they think they can change them. they think that somewhere under neath all the ‘jerkdom’ there is a genuine guy. and women hope that they are just soo special that he will change for them! unfortanately, they never do!

yeah there is always that aspect to it. i think its just the women with low self esteem presuming she doesn’t deserve a good guy, so gets a bad one and tries to change him instead.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 32 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 49 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
One can hope lol. How does the nice guy get the girl though?

have true inner confidence and be urself.

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 50 minutes after post)

just by being himself. unfortunately some women will overlook the nice guy. but the women who really matter, the women who will be good to you in return, they will go for the nice guy. you should never be with a women that’s going to take advantage of you, or give you less than you deserve. just be yourself!

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Anonymous #
2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 55 minutes after post)

Can i explain my own personal situation and get some input or should i start a new post?

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 56 minutes after post)

sure you can! you might get more responses if u write a new post, but i’ll listen either way!

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Anonymous #
2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 2 minutes after post)

ty much. Anywho i’m a graveyard security guard. I work midnight to 8am. 28, male, average looks. Working the hours i do i have a hard time getting out and meeting people. My friends arent really social creatures so they arent really able to help out much. I was married but it didnt work out. Now i’m single. What would you reccomend. p.s. i’m at work right now so i gotta do my rounds back in a skosh…

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 15 minutes after post)

weel a lot of people find partners through the internet. i personally have never done it so i wouldn’t be able to recommend where to look. maybe you can drag your friends out sometime? ya know sometimes you meet people in the most unexpected places. like in the deli buying your morning coffee… usually when people go out looking to meet someone, it never happens! then when you are not looking, there she is! so if you happen to bump into someone that really catches your eye, make an attempt to talk to her. it doesn’t necessarily have to be in a social setting

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 17 minutes after post)

i bet if you made a post asking people where they met their bf of gf, few people would say in a bar or nightclub! i’m sure there will be a lot of random places.

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 18 minutes after post)

thats a good idea, ill make the post.if people respond, let me know if it helps

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 30 minutes after post)

back again. ty for trying to help me out btw

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 31 minutes after post)

I figure what the heck may as well drop the anonimity.

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 32 minutes after post)

yeh i sometimes do that! i made the new most. some jerk edited it so that the title says genitals! i changed it-he changed it again.

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 33 minutes after post)

lol that messed up. i didnt know someone else could change the heading of someone elses post.

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 37 minutes after post)

yeh me neither. i closed it because the guy is a real immature jerk! he kept changing the title to disgusting things about genitals! i tried. maybe later i will post it again.

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 37 minutes after post)

no worries at least ya tried

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 38 minutes after post)

can i put you on my friends list? that way i can let you know when i repost it. i think in order for it to work you have to accept when i do it.

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 38 minutes after post)

sure

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 44 minutes after post)

i still acn’t figure it out. this guy keeps changing my words even tho i closed the post.

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 47 minutes after post)

report him if possable. I dont spend alot of time on here anymore because of recent upheaval in job and living situation but i think its possable to report someone.. i’m check n see…

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 32 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 48 minutes after post)

jezzy9 wrote:
i still acn’t figure it out. this guy keeps changing my words even tho i closed the post.

what a weirdo

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 50 minutes after post)

yeh its making me mad. because next to my picture says disgusting things! other people should not be able to edit someone else’s stuff. i wish i could just erase it but its not working

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 54 minutes after post)

i’ve reported him but i’m not sure what we can do about it after that

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 56 minutes after post)

i tried to write a post anon and it showed my name anyway.

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 56 minutes after post)

yeh this guy is annoying

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Anonymous #
2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 57 minutes after post)

odd theres something screwey around here i think

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 58 minutes after post)

yeh there is. i’ll be right back.

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 58 minutes after post)

well my anon still works i guess

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jezzy9 offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 59 minutes after post)

yeh i tried to write a post asking for a way to stop the editing, i chacked the anon box and it didn’t work.

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 hours after post)

i’ve had that happen once or twice i think it’s just a site glitch

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 hours, 1 minute after post)

try to post an anon in here

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Anonymous #
2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 hours, 5 minutes after post)

lets see.. i might log on under a differnt name after this

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DeckerX offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Tacoma, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 hours, 5 minutes after post)

it worked:)

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Anonymous #
2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 hours, 27 minutes after post)

hey.. i had to feed the little one. he woke up crying.. i don’t know if the anon will work if i write another post. this guy is annoying me so bad that i don’t want to write any posts at all. cuz i don’t want disgusting things written under my name

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astra100 offline Verified User (5 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
CA | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (10 hours, 29 minutes after post)

I was in love with a jerk (I broke up with him myself, because he didn’t respect me) and I don’t love my current boyfriend who is perfect… I think I’m still in love with this another guy… this sucks, but that’s the way it is…

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