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Why save hopeless people?

Seriously I dont get it, there are a ton of people that I have read posts from that all they wanna do is commit suicide or have tried and failed. Seriously.. what the heck.. If you are that depressed and feel that there is no hope for you, then just go off and do it already. Your one spec of sand on a mile long beach.

Sure, this may sound really really mean, and down right inhumane of me to say. However there arnt enough jobs to go around, and as time goes on the cost of living and such is going to skyrocket. So save us your pity and get it over with or get your act together.

If anyone else thinks I am wrong or things I am right, I would like to hear it.

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micmacster offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 minute after post)

because we have the ability to see that which they cannot, we have a right to help them

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jeaniecarpentier offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 minutes after post)

wow. just wow,. i cannot even fathom why you would encourage suicide. what a horrible thing to say.

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (2 minutes after post)

if you do not like what goes on here, them leave

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hansolo2031 offline Verified User (4 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 minutes after post)

I encourage doing it fast and painless if they are going to. I just am sick and tired of people saying how miserable there life is, and that they think there is no meaning to it.

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erin offline Verified User (10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 54 #
Augusta, GA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (4 minutes after post)

They’re not saying it to get your pity, they’re saying it to get HELP.
This is HELP.COM for crying out loud!!

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jeaniecarpentier offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (4 minutes after post)

um people come here to get HELP. hence the name of the site…help.com, if you dont feel you can help someone, why waste your oh so valuable time bothering to read thier posts

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micmacster offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (5 minutes after post)

then get off the F***ing site, you do not belong here!

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Puck You offline Verified User (6 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 109 #
Spokane, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (5 minutes after post)

erin wrote:
They’re not saying it to get your pity, they’re saying it to get HELP.This is HELP.COM for crying out loud!!

jeaniecarpentier wrote:
um people come here to get HELP. hence the name of the site…help.com, if you dont feel you can help someone, why waste your oh so valuable time bothering to read thier posts

and you aren’t helping!

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (5 minutes after post)

I don’t like it when people say things like “don’t try and talk me out of it, I’m gonna do it”, but we should help them, regardless.

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Puck You offline Verified User (6 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 109 #
Spokane, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

Puck You wrote:

erin wrote:
They’re not saying it to get your pity, they’re saying it to get HELP.This is HELP.COM for crying out loud!!

jeaniecarpentier wrote:
um people come here to get HELP. hence the name of the site…help.com, if you dont feel you can help someone, why waste your oh so valuable time bothering to read thier posts

and you aren’t helping!

Not you guys but him.

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micmacster offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

if you ask me, you are the one who needs help, I pity you, and your view on life

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Shie offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 230 #
Gloversville, NY, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

well first of all… i have reported you.. this is not right for you to be sitting here trying to get those in need of serious help… to off themselves.. this is ridiculous…

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Shie offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 230 #
Gloversville, NY, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (7 minutes after post)

for another… i believe that it is YOU who needs the help here…

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micmacster offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (7 minutes after post)

I know of a girl who was being abused, last night me and a bunch of others turned her life around and got her to get help, she will not live a better life because she got help on HELP.com

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

micmacster wrote:
I know of a girl who was being abused, last night me and a bunch of others turned her life around and got her to get help, she will not live a better life because she got help on HELP.com

* now live a better life I said that wrong

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erin offline Verified User (10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 54 #
Augusta, GA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

^j^lil_bit_shie^j^ wrote:
well first of all… i have reported you.. this is not right for you to be sitting here trying to get those in need of serious help… to off themselves.. this is ridiculous…

good thinking.

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Puck You offline Verified User (6 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 109 #
Spokane, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

hear! hear!

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jeaniecarpentier offline Verified User (4 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 17 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (9 minutes after post)

^j^lil_bit_shie^j^ wrote:
well first of all… i have reported you.. this is not right for you to be sitting here trying to get those in need of serious help… to off themselves.. this is ridiculous…

exactly! i too reported this.

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hansolo2031 offline Verified User (4 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (9 minutes after post)

micmacster wrote:
then get off the F***ing site, you do not belong here!

lol… well I do like to help people, and I like to try and make people see reason, But if people say they have done it time and time and time again, and that they are positive that life has no meaning. Then why be soft and gentle telling them that everything will be ok, when the night gets through and nothing helped them.

I tried to convince a friend for 12 hours on a phone not to do it, and after making such progress, i found out that the next day she still tried to do it again.

GO ahead and report this, its something Im getting an opinion about, and aparently no one else here shares my opinion. I am doing nothing wrong from what I can see about breaking the rules here, as unethical as it may be.

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Puck You offline Verified User (6 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 109 #
Spokane, WA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

me too

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Shie offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 230 #
Gloversville, NY, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

everyone needs to unsubscribe to this post and report this post… so there is no attention given towards this ridiculous idea..

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Dan TL offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 342 #
La Mirada, CA, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (11 minutes after post)

Look at the replies your getting “hansolo’. Having fun yet ? Telling people to just die off, least you can do is not care, but you go even further telling them to kill themselves the “right way”. People like you fuel my dark thoughts.

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micmacster offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (11 minutes after post)

it is not what you said, it is how you said it, I am very sorry to hear about your friend, but think about what you said, it was very wrong, always keep hope, it’s all we’ve got

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (13 minutes after post)

I understand now where you are coming from, I am sorry we all jumped down your throat, you were just upset, but please understand these views you are expressing will only hurt the world, even if we don’t have any effect, we are not doing that, we can only help it

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hansolo2031 offline Verified User (4 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (14 minutes after post)

I personally am the type of person to keep hope, dont get me wrong, as this post may tell otherwise, its just so darn annoying to hear that some people cant ever figure it out, and some people will live there whole lives wanting to end it.

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tmuddz offline Verified User (2 months, 3 weeks) Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (14 minutes after post)

Ever bben in a situation were u had a problem and u were decisive, about how to solve it? do u just pick a solution and go along with it or you do find ways to see which way will be better, just like this person, they r having a problem and they just dont want to make a quick solution, thats y they r here, and l seriously think its becoz of peole like u, that people end up commiting suicide, have a heart my friend

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (16 minutes after post)

I don’t believe anyone is, per say, “hopeless.” You can give hope to a lot of people by a simple action in the world– for once there was a person that waited on me in the line at a supermarket when I was having a bad day and they cheered me up by being so cheery, sweet and kind. It’s not just things like that though, it’s the matter of trying and making an effort and amplying one single joule of energy at being helpful towards someone. It takes one thing to make a difference, one domino in a line to knock down the rest– as well as one seed to make a large tree over time. Anything can happen from one action, that by far is convincing enough for me in the world that I CAN help.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

prettypouf wrote:
I don’t believe anyone is, per say, “hopeless.” You can give hope to a lot of people by a simple action in the world– for once there was a person that waited on me in the line at a supermarket when I was having a bad day and they cheered me up by being so cheery, sweet and kind. It’s not just things like that though, it’s the matter of trying and making an effort and amplying one single joule of energy at being helpful towards someone. It takes one thing to make a difference, one domino in a line to knock down the rest– as well as one seed to make a large tree over time. Anything can happen from one action, that by far is convincing enough for me in the world that I CAN help.

That was pleasent.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (8 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 19 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (32 minutes after post)

I agree with you in a way, however, about 99percent of the people who come out and say they are going to commit suicide never do, they use it as a way to grab attention to allow people to hear their problem. HOWEVER, by saying just off youself all ready is just adding more to the problem and by doing that you should think about how the situation would be in your shoes.

Remember, you dont know anyone until you have stepped in their shoes.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (42 minutes after post)

holy **** i cant believe youd even write such a thing!
like yes i know there is job shortages and everything but it doesnt mean that you should encourage suicide. maybe you just dont realize how serious a thing it is and how many people it affects.
theyre writing on here cuz theyre reaching out for help. i dont think theyre saying it to just get attention. these people really need help and i think its great that theyre writing on here instead of just doing it.

“If you are that depressed and feel that there is no hope for you, then just go off and do it already. Your one spec of sand on a mile long beach.”

i especially disagree with that. you seem like your rushing people to kill themselves and you think the world would eba better place if more people killed themselves. my best friend killed himself last year and its made a HUGE impact on my life. so yes your one speck of sand on a mile long beach but one speck of sand makes a big difference. nothings the same anymore since he died for anyone who knew him. even if they were just an aquaintance.
so i think you should think before you talk. this really upsets people like me who have someone close o them hwo commited suicide

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (44 minutes after post)

If you are not here for helpimg well you shouldnt be here at all people dont need this kind of help ….

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (7 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 91 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (52 minutes after post)

Gosh what kind of human are you? I am for helping any who ask. I do not decide if they are worthy. I hope you never find yourself in desperation and only want help. This is the worst post I have ever seen.

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micmacster offline Verified User (3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

do you still mean what you wrote? or do you see where everyone is coming from?

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (7 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 91 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 10 minutes after post)

Angel,
My bestfriend is missing since Nov2. 3rd search they found bone. I am waiting on DNA and it hurts so bad. I feel your pain. Im so sorry.

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Queen Angel offline Verified User (2 months, 3 weeks) Shouts: 531 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 13 minutes after post)

awww im really sorry for you too 2greeneyes :(
thanks for the synpathy =) i hope they find your friend! just think in the way that it might not be his/her bone!

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2 months, 3 weeks ago (4 hours, 3 minutes after post)

To those who reported this post, I think you are misguided. Stupidity is not a valid reason to report a post. Look at the conversation it generated. I disagree with the original post like I think most people do, but the thread it generated was more interesting to read than a bunch of people stroking each other. So I think the people who report this post are the ones who should leave help.com and go to totalitarianism.com where all disenting viewpoints are suppressed and speech is only free if it agrees with you. Sometimes “help” might come from someone who doesn’t look like you or talk like you, or think like you.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (4 hours, 39 minutes after post)

Ive gon through things that u prabably havent even expirience and hope you dont cause at my age i its just to much and guess what i dont really give a dmn about wat u think of my post im just saying wat i feel is right ……….

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (7 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 91 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (6 hours, 21 minutes after post)

I disagree, no one has the corner on pain and sorrow. There are many here who could match you, and even make you pale in comparison. Pain is pain, sorrow is sorrow. We all bleed. We are all human. There are many that have the courage to get up and ask for help, do not mistake that for weakness, when in fact, it is the utmost courage to struggle back onto their feet and ask for help. I applaud their will to survive.