life help: Ok…I need to vent regarding the way the USA thrives financially! - Help.com

Not to be rude, not saying i don’t agree with you partially.

But some people work dam hard for there money. Some people just earn more thats all because they are better qualified etc.

I do think that some people don’t deserve it yes, but you are describing it as if they are evil people.

Why should they give you their money? They work just as hard as anyone else for it.

I have no pithy response, so I’ll just say I agree with Raver.

in all reality, Arlene, it would not work.

…All three economical classes are needed.
To level the field would be to completely obliterate our economy.

I wish it was possible though :/

I think it might be important to clarify a little here..If the OP is merely suggesting that people consider donating locally, then of course I have no problem with that. There are real sad stories out there, and people sometimes need a helping hand.

The problem comes, when the sentiment becomes “rich people don’t deserve all there money”, or “I deserve something for nothing”. Most rich people are so because someone worked really hard to get there money, and when they had money they didn’t spend it foolishly.

So, get out there and make your own fortune! And, if other priorities make it difficult to do that, then choose to enjoy those other priorities. As the saying goes, money doesn’t buy happiness…”

I think if we had a flat tax Income tax, and reduce some of the loop holes in the tax law, we’d be going a long way to that effect. But still that is money given to the government not the poor. I am currently going into debt by the amount of money you make annually. This debt is because it is the only way I can obtain my degree to better my situation. So if bettering my situation means I can make more money doing what I love (and I hope it does) then sorry… as Raver said… I’ve worked hard for that level of life. I think you are talking about the top 5% of earners in this country. OK… Oprah spent millions for a school in Africa. I is well needed there, much more than here… but could she have spent her money here instead? Sure, she could have, but it is her money. I recently wrote a post that addresses some of this issue - I invite you to check it out.
http://help.com/post/167720-money-mak…
Bright blessings ~ Richard

Many financially wealthy individuals donate to charity. The great thing about the way the USA works is that they do it voluntarily. Check out some wonderful organizations that exist because of voluntary contributions. I understand where you are coming from, though. Have you ever thought about what the true riches in life really are? Good health, close personal relationships, freedom, and many others come to mind. Count your blessings and look for ways to increase your income.

People should take care of themselves. I don’t want the stupid government involved in my life.

Unfortunately, the government is involved in everyones life, at every level. The ‘nanny state’. We could do with a bit more laissez faire in some areas. A dificult situation though to gt the balance right.

i guess in the end it is there money let them do whatever they want , if they are driven by greed or self centered i dont know but it is there money they have the right to do what they want… so please no judgment on both sides

I think many of the rich have worked **** hard to get where they are today. I also think many of the rich have not done a single thing to are where they are today.

Just as it is with the ‘poor’. Some struggle through daily life to make ends meet and try to better their lives. Some just don’t seem to care and accept their situation.

No one can be judged without knowing their story. And than it is still nothing more than your opinion.

With having that said, now my answer to the original post.

I hate the phenonemon ‘country’. I don’t know who ever invented it, but I think it is wrong. It makes people speak in terms of ‘them’ and ‘us’.

I like to think of ‘us’. There is no them, we are all us. One big group of shiny happy people! (ideally).

And I think we should reach out whereever we can. We are a part of a society, a world. Together we have to do it. This website is an example of it.

So, I disagree on ‘us’ first and ‘them’ later. As I don’t believe in ‘them’, ‘them’ does not exist.

It is a choice to help. To help where and how you wish. This can be local, can be on the other side of the world. It can also not be done.

Does that make someone bad? If he/she chooses not to help in any way?

Should help always be financial? Should we also look at the society we live in where people decide not to help?

And what is help? And when does one deserve help?

Before this gets too much of an essay (if not allready):

Is it this easy to state what you state, Arlena?
Or should be more taken in consideration?

Because the rich are greedy and there is no way they’re going to help someone else out that they dont even know unless it would benefit them in some way. What we need is a modern day robin hood. There should be a “rich tax” and the money that gets taken from them should be funneled into welfare checks (Or whatever, I dont know very much about this sort of thing) and given to those who need it to get a decent house and food.

Hello, I am sure that something like that could be done but not over the internet like ckmurra said their are organisations out there, I know that in Kilkenny in Ireland we have an organisation like that, their are two ways they give you money, one is if you write them a letter asking them for help e.g. presents (especially the ones the parents know about), food etc. they also help decorate your house another is about once every season or so they come around to all the houses pleading with them that if they think of anyone including themselves that may need money to please inform them they do not look for the money there and then (as a charitable donation) they have a charitable fundraising events throughout the year but mainly a letter dropped into everydoor and asked to put a few bob into it.

Excuse me MyMotivation200, why don’t you exhibit some manners and good sense, and not refer to a lady is such a way? Raver has her opinion (one that several agree with), so for you to rip off her head and puke down her neck, is a little over the top. You have your opinion and you are welcome to it. Where do you get the idea that rich people don’t help those in need. In fact, if we were to research and look close enough I’m confident that we’d find percentage wise, rich people give WAY more to charities then you AND your parents. Oprah… undoubtedly one of the richest women in AMERICA - has paid millions to open her school for under-privileged children in Africa. Anyway… You have your opinion, and I’m sure I’ll not be able to change that.. and that’s OK… but you needn’t call out a fellow helper the way you did. Personally I think you should apologize.
~Richard

I’m a single father trying to raise 3 daughters. I know how hard things can get. But you are incorrect - On this site, you have the “privilege” to give your own opinion… not the right. Since it’s a privilege, why not stick to the rules and lets not call other users names… or degrade them by saying such things as they are full of sh!t. I’m not saying you are not correct about the screwy perspective we have on what we are paying some people, but that is not the fault of the people getting paid.. it’s the fault of those paying them.

MyMotivation wrote:
ok this is to… ♥Rαvεr♥ …above me that is full of ****… there are hundreds of people that have more money than they can spend in a lifetime!! i agree 101% that they should be helping the people that are in need… especially with the ******* economy… not all people work “**** hard” for their money… they create a page like ‘myspace’ or they sit at home and make layouts for myspace and get millions!! then there’s those rappers that talk out of their *** and get nowhere in life and DO NOT motivate out children and you think thats ‘working hard’ for their money!? you are so full of **** and so is the us… WE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT and we need the wealthier people to get their head out of their *** and quit spending money of 40 cars and maybe ummm i dunno… put a homeless child through school for the next doctors and surgeons and babysitters!!! …thats another thing… you all can get sick of your kids after a few hours… do you realize that teachers and babysitters do it for 80% of their life with way less gratitude and money than they deserve!!? they are the ones that need this money to better teach out children… OUT FUTURE!!

LOL get notted mate!!

I’m not interested in your insults, your personal references that are insulting to my presence. You have no idea do you?
Creators of myspace didn’t sit there one day and think “I know”…they had to make it work.

I’m tellin you now lovely…get a job and give some money to charity if your that bothered!

mymotivation wrote:
i have every right to my opinion when self respected morons would like to defend themselves eating an extra cheeseburger or feeding good water to their dogs come in place, how about feeding a starving child or giving water to a dehydrated 2 year old with no money because the world is so ******* corupt that we pay rappers more to brain wash our children than professors to teach them correctly!?!?

Rich people need to find a drain to help people like ‘arls’ who are single and raising her own child… bet you had a family richard… bet there was no broken home in your life… so you know nothing about her situation… thank you very much!!

What are you doing to combat poverty eh then?

I’m going to go out on the line and say that anyone in this post that has a negative response or feeling about money - Doesn’t have any. And further, as long as you stay negative about money, you never will have any - well paycheck to paycheck, that’s all. There is nothing wrong with money, there is basically nothing wrong with many of the people that have money. Just because they won’t give their money to YOU, does not make them evil. Money can do alot of good as many have pointed out. So, I intend to make as much money as I possibly can so I can do good for my family and friends… and the community in which I live.
Bright blessings ~ Richard

Richard cor de lyon wrote:
I’m going to go out on the line and say that anyone in this post that has a negative response or feeling about money - Doesn’t have any.

Nightowl wrote:
Because the rich are greedy and there is no way they’re going to help someone else out that they dont even know unless it would benefit them in some way. What we need is a modern day robin hood. There should be a “rich tax” and the money that gets taken from them should be funneled into welfare checks (Or whatever, I dont know very much about this sort of thing) and given to those who need it to get a decent house and food.

I have money. My family is upper middle class, and do you know what we do with the money we dont “need”? We give it away.

So you contradict your self… “rich are greedy” yet you “give it away” you have so much. I don’t understand.

Richard cor de lyon wrote:
So you contradict your self… “rich are greedy” yet you “give it away” you have so much. I don’t understand.

I’m not rich though. But I DO have money. You said “anyone in this post that has a negative response or feeling about money - Doesn’t have any.”. I’m not Rockefeller, but I’m well off.

so you are greedy?

Richard cor de lyon wrote:
so you are greedy?

??? I dont think greedy people give away money dude.

I’m sorry I’m confused… you say you have money…that you are “well off” I guess you’re trying to say that there is a difference between you being “well off” and “rich”. Well… hate to tell you.. there are ALOT of people that would look at your “well off” and say that you are rich… it’s all relative. AND unless you are giving your money to THEM… sorry you just might fit into that “greedy” category too! You have readily created a judgment and stereotype; “all rich people are greedy”… when in actuality, you might just be talking about yourself from the eye of the poor guy you didn’t give a handout to at the 7-11. Money does not make the man. What the man does makes the man. But you don’t need to worry about that… you’ll never be rich.

Richard cor de lyon wrote:
you’ll never be rich.

Rich in what sense?

Because if all I have is enough good food, a nice bed, good friends, champion title, I’ll be quite rich…in my eyes anyway. Thats all I want out of life. To be able to live comfortably, and to be a champion fighter.

Now you are coming around to my way of thinking. Please see my earlier reply.

You expect to be a Champion Fighter but not win any of those obscenely huge purses?

ckmurra… I never disagreed with your thinking, but this post as I understand it is about money. NOT the proverbial riches of life.

Whoever removed the abusive replies, thankyou :)

Its nice to debate and discuss…but its not nice to get personal…

on with discussion :D

Richard cor de lyon wrote:
You expect to be a Champion Fighter but not win any of those obscenely huge purses?

ckmurra… I never disagreed with your thinking, but this post as I understand it is about money. NOT the proverbial riches of life.

I dont care about the money. Thats what you dont understand. I dont CARE. I’ll take what I need to live, and put the rest to good use. ALL I WANT IS TO BE THE STRONGEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD. I’ll do anything to make it to the top.

Then you will be “filthy” rich, (whether you care about it or not), and you’ll be OK when people plug YOU into the greedy category. I’m sorry.. I’m messin’ with you because your argument, in my opinion, is so naive. I’ll leave you alone now.

Richard cor de lyon wrote:
Then you will be “filthy” rich, (whether you care about it or not), and you’ll be OK when people plug YOU into the greedy category. I’m sorry.. I’m messin’ with you because your argument, in my opinion, is so naive. I’ll leave you alone now.

I’m a naive person…I have autism, and I’m very trusting.

Aspergers actually.

Well then, you are right. I am pretty new at this. From now on, I will try to keep to the original topic.