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This may sound cruel, but it how the world works, its a form of population controll.

Is it fair? No. Is the world supposed to be fair? No. We all pay taxes to help support everyone, so we as people cannot be blamed.

Its how the world works and it never going to change.

Those who become successfull usually work hard to get there, those who sit at home on wealthfare are usually there on their own mistakes.

I would disagree that things aren’t going to change. It’s thoughts like that that make the world not change.

No, I want you to think of this. As long as there are people there will be the drive to be better then one another. There will always be an upper class and a lower class. There will always be hate. There will always be unfair treatement and wrong dueing. You can try to change people but its impossible.

Breaking The Silence wrote:
No, I want you to think of this. As long as there are people there will be the drive to be better then one another. There will always be an upper class and a lower class. There will always be hate. There will always be unfair treatement and wrong dueing. You can try to change people but its impossible.

Bull. THats what we tell ourselves to justify the gross discrepency between the way we live and the way the poor live. Anything can be achieved, though it may be extremely difficult.

Its not bull, Im not justifing anything. Im telling you the truth and how the human ego actually works.

The only possible way to achieve a perfect world is for everyone to believe in the same religion, the same thoughts, the same educational values, the same respect values, the same everything.

You cant perfect anything. Everyone is different and always will be. We all hate someone.

You cant controll how people think. If we had no drive in life, then life would be dull and boring. The drive is what keeps people going, taking away that drive is removing someones life. You cant live in one class, you have to have an upper and lower.

You might not agree or want to believe but its the truth, and I promise everyone that we will never achieve world peace.

the future of the world literally depends on us sharing the resources
of the world with others who don’t have enough.
I requires only a little effort on our part to end the suffering.

Hence my point, people will always live the way they want too, unless you create a gene pull which then you are creating a holacaust and no one will approve of that.

If that is your same point, than I wouldn’t be too quick to judge that nothing will change. Things already are, just have to know where to look and be open to the suggestions. Without being open there is close to know hope, but people have hope which remains for people to be open.

Im not saying nothing will ever change, sure things will change, but Im saying is things will never be perfect or anywhere near perfect, we will always have a division among people.

Breaking The Silence wrote:
Im not saying nothing will ever change, sure things will change, but Im saying is things will never be perfect or anywhere near perfect, we will always have a division among people.

You are saying this now but tha tis not at all your original stance. You said:

Breaking The Silence wrote:
This may sound cruel, but it how the world works, its a form of population controll.

Is it fair? No. Is the world supposed to be fair? No. We all pay taxes to help support everyone, so we as people cannot be blamed.

Its how the world works and it never going to change.

Those who become successfull usually work hard to get there, those who sit at home on wealthfare are usually there on their own mistakes.

Let me be 100 percent clear in mys tance and in reality. We do not need to have this failing system, we do not need to have homles sand unemployed and people dying in 3rd world countries everyday in mass graves. Thats right, i said it, there is a possibility to change that. ANd we can kepe telling ourselves that its the flaws of man keeping us at bay at that they are un-changeable but they arent, we just refuse to get off our ***** for a second to do something about it.

WE CAN BE BLAMED. we SHOULD be blamed. Is paying taxes and living an excuse not to be blamed? Like hell it is. And if you think everyone on welfare or even MOST people on welfare got their by your own mistakes your living in a dream world. People are born into poverty buddy.

Snar wrote:
Let me be 100 percent clear in mys tance and in reality. We do not need to have this failing system, we do not need to have homles sand unemployed and people dying in 3rd world countries everyday in mass graves. Thats right, i said it, there is a possibility to change that. ANd we can kepe telling ourselves that its the flaws of man keeping us at bay at that they are un-changeable but they arent, we just refuse to get off our ***** for a second to do something about it.

WE CAN BE BLAMED. we SHOULD be blamed. Is paying taxes and living an excuse not to be blamed? Like hell it is. And if you think everyone on welfare or even MOST people on welfare got their by your own mistakes your living in a dream world. People are born into poverty buddy.

to that I say your absolutely right.
Thank you for that.A person with a brain and a conscience.
Good on you !!!!!!!!!!!

That’s capitalism.

prettypouf wrote:
That’s capitalism.

That doesnt make it right.

Snar wrote:
Let me be 100 percent clear in mys tance and in reality. We do not need to have this failing system, we do not need to have homles sand unemployed and people dying in 3rd world countries everyday in mass graves. Thats right, i said it, there is a possibility to change that. ANd we can kepe telling ourselves that its the flaws of man keeping us at bay at that they are un-changeable but they arent, we just refuse to get off our ***** for a second to do something about it.

WE CAN BE BLAMED. we SHOULD be blamed. Is paying taxes and living an excuse not to be blamed? Like hell it is. And if you think everyone on welfare or even MOST people on welfare got their by your own mistakes your living in a dream world. People are born into poverty buddy.

You Rule SNAR! I totally agree!

Anybody who pays $10,000 for any article of clothing is a sucker.

According to Amarillo Slim, “It’s immoral to let a sucker keep his money.”

Thanks pheonix and spiratec, its nice to know I have some people here who agree :).

Snar wrote:
Let me be 100 percent clear in mys tance and in reality. We do not need to have this failing system, we do not need to have homles sand unemployed and people dying in 3rd world countries everyday in mass graves. Thats right, i said it, there is a possibility to change that. ANd we can kepe telling ourselves that its the flaws of man keeping us at bay at that they are un-changeable but they arent, we just refuse to get off our ***** for a second to do something about it.

WE CAN BE BLAMED. we SHOULD be blamed. Is paying taxes and living an excuse not to be blamed? Like hell it is. And if you think everyone on welfare or even MOST people on welfare got their by your own mistakes your living in a dream world. People are born into poverty buddy.

Let me state first, I know the no one likes what I say because its the truth. You deny it because everyone wants to have a perfect world. Yes, no one should be living homeless, or by hunger, or by being poor. I agree, however, thats the perfect world. There will always be someone out there with no work ethic, there will always be a drug addicted person on the streets, there will always be an alcoholic, there will always be the guy who just has bad luck.

This will never change, you cant help those who dont want to be helped.

Breaking The Silence wrote:

Let me state first, I know the no one likes what I say because its the truth.

It is true that there can never be perfection, however thats not what I took issue with in yout statements nor adressed in what you quoted me on.

Breaking The Silence wrote:
You deny it because everyone wants to have a perfect world. Yes, no one should be living homeless, or by hunger, or by being poor. I agree, however, thats the perfect world. There will always be someone out there with no work ethic, there will always be a drug addicted person on the streets, there will always be an alcoholic, there will always be the guy who just has bad luck.

I agree with all of what you said, not denying that there will always be problems in the world. I am denying that we should be content with AS MANY PROBLEMS as we have now, because im sure we could at least do better.

Breaking The Silence wrote:
This will never change, you cant help those who dont want to be helped.

But we can help those who do want to be helped, and there are millions. And we are NOT helping them.

Actually most people would rather be thin than have $10,000 clothes.

Anonymous wrote:
Actually most people would rather be thin than have $10,000 clothes.

Lypo. Also very expensive :P

inside_instinct wrote:
Snar, you are very good at debating and pointing out the facts. I look up to you! Things definitely can be better and I full heartedly agree that we aren’t doing enough.

woah man! Thanks a lot, i take alla that as a huge compliment. :) and I’m glad you agree.

it’s true that humans will never acheive a perfect world, but that’s no reason to stop from having a **** good go at it.

yup - the thing is, if western governments get someone in power who genuinely wants to change things and realises they have the power to, things would recover quite well. im sure the day will come, but until then it’s hugely difficult.

how to do that would be the question. Doesn’t look like much chance over here in Britain anytime soon, but Obama in America seems a step in the right direction - IF he delivers on his promises.

inside_instinct wrote:
very true, IF he delivers his promised, but I haven’t had much faith in any politicians. They all say a bunch of crap.

Its too bad that I have to agree… you know there was a day when politics really WAS about change.

inside_instinct wrote:
no way!? They believed in change? When was that time? Thomas Jefferson?

Pretty much.