Alcohol help: I don’t see the hype with alcohol and its “evil” PR or whatever. - Help.com

Hope you don’t mind me editing your post, I kept it as similar as possible but the typos were annoying lol. And all the hype is because alcohol has the potential to destroy a persons life. Of course this does not happen the majority of people who drink it but it is a possibility. Also there are a lot of side effects to drinking excess amounts of alcohol. In moderation your right though, it can improve a night out or whatever.

all drugs, used carefully in moderatio, can be ‘a good night’… one must merely be careful, and not let a reality-enhancer become our actual reality… it leads nowhere…

If you need a drug to have a GREAT night, then you are not looking at all your opportunities. Alcohol is a legal drug that kills people every day. Not only by it’s own corrosive aspects to the human body, but by the alter state of consciousness it leaves people in. The very sad thing is that sometimes it kills people that are not doing the drinking.

do you smoke week recreationally too?

i completely agree, I used to not drink because i hated what alcohol did to people, it just makes them dumber and act like douchebags. And then I would always have to listen to everyone brag about how much they drank. I finally decided to drink because I wanted to. I use it in moderation to relax while on vacation and stuff.

sorry for the typo… so my next question for you, is why do you need to seek an altered state of consciousness? What’s wrong with your waking day that you can’t cope with it, so you escape into a new and different world?

Yes… I understand. The thing is I’m not young, and I’m here to say it is possible to learn from others mistakes. You don’t have to make them all on your own. Our life is pretty dang GREAT all by itself, if you know how to look through the prism that reflects that rainbow you’ll see for yourself. I do understand… and hope you do too very soon.

Bright blessings ~ Richard

yeah… I see the heavy support you’re getting. ;)

hey guess what?

ask me two years ago the best thing out there? i would have said… oh, heroin….

cop this, you don’t need anything on a reg basis to alter your perception, try to use what you’ve got to view the world differently… trust me, you’ll develop what flesh you have into being a valuable mental tool for the future..

i’m not saying choof on occaision isn’t great, but don’t let anything that changes your view rule you. you can experience much more profound things by just thinking laterally..

also, don’t let anyone convince of anything, be it religion, drugs, politics, nothing… it’s all bull ****. look to yourself. that’s where the answers lie.

007 wrote:
I’m aware that life is great - i just enjoy this life - and I enjoy what I do. I’m not a sad and sorry stoner, or i wudnt be making this post. My point is that one can enjoy mind altering substances whilst balancing a successful life… it’s not just a path to ‘destruction’ or whatever.

and i rekon a lot of poeple agree

of course…. but the balance must be found…. hopefully will come a day when we won’t need substances to experience truth…. but that day is a long way off..

alchohol is evil…. the if its used right thing is silly…. if a gun is used right, it can feed a family of 10… but instead they are mostly used to kill people… drunk driving and alcohol overdoses kill soo many people a year, while another drug (alcohol is a drug, don’t kid yourself) i can think of, contributes to a minuscule number of deaths, and is impossible to overdose on… i think we should outlaw alcohol and cigarettes, and we should legalize/tax marijuana. i drink and smoke cigarettes, love doing both, but still think they should be outlawed. we as a society just don’t seem to be mature enough to handle them.

if those two are made illegal, and pot legal, we’d have something to replace that good feeling alcohol gives us, and tobacco companies and farmers could switch to canibus, thus keeping thousands of people from losing their jobs.

wshSHEwrntsoDRNK! wrote:
… of course…. but the balance must be found…. hopefully will come a day when we won’t need substances to experience truth…. but that day is a long way off..

I would respectfully disagree with that. Altered states of consciousness can be found today without the use of drugs. Is it as easy? No… but why risk the harm to your or someone else’s body? And in terms of truth… whatever truth you find in an alter state is a truth ONLY for that altered state and does not necessarily cross over to this state of consciousness.

Richard cor de lyon wrote:

wshSHEwrntsoDRNK! wrote:
… of course…. but the balance must be found…. hopefully will come a day when we won’t need substances to experience truth…. but that day is a long way off..

I would respectfully disagree with that. Altered states of consciousness can be found today without the use of drugs. Is it as easy? No… but why risk the harm to your or someone else’s body? And in terms of truth… whatever truth you find in an alter state is a truth ONLY for that altered state and does not necessarily cross over to this state of consciousness.

I respectfully disagree…. how can one know what is truth in which state to the next?

You may argue that truth is only based on what you experience in any given time, and in other times it is not applicable, but look at Don Juan? The Orange People? Buddha? Even as contemporaries, Hunter S.? Kerouak? How do you define this truth?

the most consequential truths i have ever experienced have been when i am high, but i could never commuit coherent pen to paper…. a problem, perhaps? may be that this is our curse… these data are accessable to us when we are so high we will not rememember them, but when we are sober, all we are left with is an idea that we kissed the lips of the goddss of knowledge, and nothing more?

weed is not, i repeat, is not a stepladder to enlightenment… your brain does in fact function on an impaired level… you get dumber, not deeper. you can reach those same epiphanies you think getting high allows you to on your own if you’d stop thinking about self indulgence. getting high just makes you think your thinking smarter, which makes you try to think smarter, and in turn its actually your effort that does the trick, not the pot…

pot is good for making you feel good… thats about it… but i think we all need that at one time or another…

A good education is an important thing:). All drugs (alcohol, weed, meth, heroine, coke…) are not the same. And all though they are part of the same general category are very different in their effect, results, symptoms, both long term and short term. Weed does not have to be smoked which is hazardous to health. Weed can be vaporized and has been proven and precribed medically for years. http://www.thevolcanovaporizer.com/in…

I have given cocktails (made up of cocaine/morphine/alcohol…combined) to my terminally ill patients (perscribed by doctors) to relief pain and allow them to speak or be with their family before they expired. There is a reason these drugs are not given in these combinations or otherwise to patients that are not terminal. The effects of wrong dosage, wrong use, bad combinations can be permanent and/or deadly.

SoulRising wrote:
A good education is an important thing:). All drugs (alcohol, weed, meth, heroine, coke…) are not the same. And all though they are part of the same general category are very different in their effect, results, symptoms, both long term and short term. Weed does not have to be smoked which is hazardous to health. Weed can be vaporized and has been proven and prescribed medically for years. http://www.thevolcanovaporizer.com/in…

I have given cocktails (made up of cocaine/morphine/alcohol…combined) to my terminally ill patients (prescribed by doctors) to relief pain and allow them to speak or be with their family before they expired. There is a reason these drugs are not given in these combinations or otherwise to patients that are not terminal. The effects of wrong dosage, wrong use, bad combinations can be permanent and/or deadly.

http://www.economist.com/science/disp…

I have seen the harm drink does to someone. I think as a drug it is very underestimated how much of an impact it makes to your life.

After saying that I do like a class of wine when I have a meal or when I sit down to watch a film.

If used in moderation it can be good but if it is required for a good night then you need to rethink as to why.

Turning to any drug to have a good night is just one step towards dependency.

I have actually seen what alcohol does to people and it’s more then just propaganda. Drunk drivers don’t just kill people riding with them, they kill innocent people in other cars and pedestrians. Not to mention the liver damage it does to their own body. I’ve seen long term drinkers destroy their health, it’s not some make believe fairy tale that doctors made up. It’s real and it’s ugly.

What about the people in another car that didn’t choose to get into a car with someone that’s been drinking? Drunk drivers hit other cars, not just the ones they are in. Innocent people get killed by drunk drivers!

I had a brother in law that was killed by a drunk driver, he didn’t get to choose!

I won’t try to convince you, hopefully you’ll see the issue before your liver and kidneys shut down from long term use and I’ve seen that happen with family members too. I’m out.