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Should marijuana be legal?

Marijuana, which is grown naturally has been illegal since 1961 but why?

Facts

Marijuana is not addicting.
Marijuana has no case of hang over.
Marijuana is safer then tobacco.
Marijuana has been smoked by over half the population of the united states.
You cant overdose on marijuana

We as tax payers pay for people who smoke, sell, and buy marijuana that get sent to jail for such a petty charge.

The question is, why is this still illegal. We have a marketing tycoon in front of us but we decide to make it illegal despite it being safer then alcohol and tobacco. We want a better economy and lower taxes, well heres your answer.

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Commander Ikari online Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 135 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 minute after post)

Get your facts straight.

It’s been banned since the 30’s.

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Should marajuana be legal?

Marajuana, which is grown naturally has been illegal since the 70’s but why?

Facts

Marajuana is not addicting.
Marajuana has no case of hang over.
Marajuana is safer then tobacco.
Marajuana has been smoked by over half the population of the united states.

We as tax payers pay for people who smoke, sell, and buy marajuana that get sent to jail for such a petty charge.

The question is, why is this still illegal. We have a marketing tycoon in front of us but we decide to make it illegal despite it being safer then alcohol and tobacco. We want a better economy and lower taxes, well heres your answer.

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AngelFreak offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (4 minutes after post)

I can’t directly quote etc, but I have heard a lot in the news and health field that it can cause or at least exacerbate existing mental illness. Other than that I dunno why it’s illegal.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (8 minutes after post)

AngelFreak wrote:
I can’t directly quote etc, but I have heard a lot in the news and health field that it can cause or at least exacerbate existing mental illness. Other than that I dunno why it’s illegal.

It can exacerbate existing illnesses, it can cause miscarriages, it probably on a par with tobacco and alcohol but they’re not such fab things themselves.

On the other hand, I know people with ms and arthritis who use it and feel the benefits.

Can’t see it being legalised anytime soon though.

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skyy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (8 minutes after post)

I dont really care for weed but why are cigarettes legal even though they cause cancer and weed isnt but no one has died from it yet?

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Should marijuana be legal?

Marijuana, which is grown naturally has been illegal since the 70’s but why?

Facts

Marijuana is not addicting.
Marijuana has no case of hang over.
Marijuana is safer then tobacco.
Marijuana has been smoked by over half the population of the united states.

We as tax payers pay for people who smoke, sell, and buy marijuana that get sent to jail for such a petty charge.

The question is, why is this still illegal. We have a marketing tycoon in front of us but we decide to make it illegal despite it being safer then alcohol and tobacco. We want a better economy and lower taxes, well heres your answer.

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Commander Ikari online Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 135 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (10 minutes after post)

skyy wrote:
I dont really care for weed but why are cigarettes legal even though they cause cancer and weed isnt but no one has died from it yet?

Cause, America has a long tradition with tobacco, and big tobacco likes money. Besides, Weed makes you wacky, but tobacco just makes you live several years less.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (11 minutes after post)

Commander Ikari wrote:
Get your facts straight.

It’s been banned since the 30’s.

1961 was the actual offical date, so you are bit off

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (11 minutes after post)

Weed may make you “whacky” but this is only temporary.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (12 minutes after post)

Marijuana is safer then tobacco.

lol. No it shouldn’t be legal.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (13 minutes after post)

The 1937 Marihuana Tax Act made possession or transfer of marijuana illegal throughout the United States under federal law, excluding medical and industrial uses, in which an expensive excise tax was required. Annual fees for the tax were $24 ($337 adjusted for inflation) for importers, manufacturers, and cultivators of marijuana, $1 annually ($14 adjusted for inflation) for medical and research purposes, and $3 annually ($42 adjusted for inflation) for industrial uses. Detailed marijuana sale logs were required to keep record of marijuana sales. Selling marijuana to any person who has previously paid the tax is $1 per ounce or fraction thereof; however, it is $100 ($1,406 adjusted for inflation) per ounce or fraction thereof to sell any person who has not registered and paid the special tax.[17]

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (14 minutes after post)

Mandatory sentencing and increased punishment were enacted when the United States Congress passed the Boggs Act of 1952 and the Narcotics Control Act of 1956. The acts made a first time marijuana possession offense a minimum of two to ten years with a fine up to $20,000; however, in 1970, the United States Congress repealed mandatory penalties for marijuana offenses.[3]

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Commander Ikari online Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 135 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (14 minutes after post)

either way you slice it, it was illegal before 1961.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (16 minutes after post)

OK, my bad, Im talking canada since Im from there. 1961 canada made marijuana illegal. I just use american facts because they more people to make facts with.

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Commander Ikari online Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 135 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (17 minutes after post)

Oh, alright then. Anyway, I don’t think it should be illegal.

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skyy offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (18 minutes after post)

So basically it is illegal because the government cant keep track of it for taxes. And i rather be wacky for a couple of hours than dead or in chemotherapy for lung cancer

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (19 minutes after post)

Pretty much, thats why I think the goverment needs to begin marketing it and get a grasp on something that would grow into a major tycoon.

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Commander Ikari online Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 135 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (20 minutes after post)

skyy wrote:
So basically it is illegal because the government cant keep track of it for taxes. And i rather be wacky for a couple of hours than dead or in chemotherapy for lung cancer

No, the tax was just to make it harder for all the good stoners to get there fix, it wasn’t the reason. I think I’ve heard it had to do with the temperence movement wanting pot gone after they had gotten alcohol.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (23 minutes after post)

I think alcohol should be illegal and weed legal eventhough i dont really care for neither. Alcohol causes death weed doesnt but yet its still illegal. Maybe i dont understand because so many people get put in jail for something thats not even that serious

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (24 minutes after post)

skyy wrote:
I think alcohol should be illegal and weed legal eventhough i dont really care for neither. Alcohol causes death weed doesnt but yet its still illegal. Maybe i dont understand because so many people get put in jail for something thats not even that serious

We tried making alcohol illegal. It was a resounding failure.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (25 minutes after post)

I blame Harry Aslinger for his overthinking and stupidity.

Making alcohol illegal will never happen because its a world wide accepted thing.

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Commander Ikari online Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 135 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (26 minutes after post)

Breaking The Silence wrote:
I blame Harry Aslinger for his overthinking and stupidity.

Making alcohol illegal will never happen because its a world wide accepted thing.

But it did happen… Failed miserable, was legalized later.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (27 minutes after post)

I mean now, its like sugar or bread. People will always fight for it.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (28 minutes after post)

I think this government is backwards seriously. Sometimes i hate the sight of alcohol because ive seen what it can do to people while weed on the other hand just relaxes people and cause them to think they are thinking deep

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (50 minutes after post)

While I do agree that it would be good to rake up the tax money from the legalazation of marijuana would be nice but some of the facts you stated are wrong. Studies show that smoking marijuana is 50-70% WORSE for your lungs than tobacco smoke. Also marijuana does permanent damage to your braincells. There is no way to regrow brain cells. I’m aware that marijuana can be ingested orally as well but that can lead to liver damage as well. On addiction, blunts contain traces of nicotine which can give you an addiction to marijuana, pot is usually laced with other drugs which can lead to addiction, finally marijuana gives you an emotional dependency. This is not a chemical addiction. Once you get high you feel good but when you come down you feel strung out. So then you get high again to feel better. Then eventually you are getting high just to feel normal. So when you feel strung out after that you fall really hard. That is my two cents.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (51 minutes after post)

rowass(the great) wrote:
While I do agree that it would be good to rake up the tax money from the legalazation of marijuana would be nice but some of the facts you stated are wrong. Studies show that smoking marijuana is 50-70% WORSE for your lungs than tobacco smoke. Also marijuana does permanent damage to your braincells. There is no way to regrow brain cells. I’m aware that marijuana can be ingested orally as well but that can lead to liver damage as well. On addiction, blunts contain traces of nicotine which can give you an addiction to marijuana, pot is usually laced with other drugs which can lead to addiction, finally marijuana gives you an emotional dependency. This is not a chemical addiction. Once you get high you feel good but when you come down you feel strung out. So then you get high again to feel better. Then eventually you are getting high just to feel normal. So when you feel strung out after that you fall really hard. That is my two cents.

To avert the lung damge, there are always vaporizers.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (55 minutes after post)

I dont smoke, but I know that the reason it cant be made legal is because its a weed and can be grown anywhere there is dirt. So basically no one can make money out of it. Meaning the government would get no profits. Something I read by Noam Chomsky.

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Tony Lopez wrote:
I dont smoke, but I know that the reason it cant be made legal is because its a weed and can be grown anywhere there is dirt. So basically no one can make money out of it. Meaning the government would get no profits. Something I read by Noam Chomsky.

Not very logical of the goverment, they could just tax growers and consumers like they do with tobacco, and make a fortune.

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (58 minutes after post)

Most of the facts only occur because we have allowed drug dealers to market the drugs. Which means they can do as they please with it and we dont question it because its illegal. The only side effect to smoking is the feeling of hunger at the end of it.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (59 minutes after post)

See but with tobacco you need a special kind of soil and there is chemical processes involved. Also the government would never know if someone was growing that stuff or not. They just cant tax at random.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour after post)

Tony Lopez wrote:
See but with tobacco you need a special kind of soil and there is chemical processes involved. Also the government would never know if someone was growing that stuff or not. They just cant tax at random.

Yes…. They would know, there would be giant weed farms, and farm companies would grow it.

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 1 minute after post)

This is why we still make it illegal to be home grown, but allow to be marketed at a small price so that people wouldnt debate whether to buy from a no name who knows what they did or a company that can be trusted.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 1 minute after post)

Personally I think it should be legal despite some potential side effects. These effects are far less serious than many Over the counter meds and common prescription drugs. I think that if we were to be less hypocritical in our stance toward drugs we should make the Partnership for a Drug Free America adds on TV sponsored by Lunesta, Enzyte or Viagra or a billion other pharmaceuticals. Also if you look at the history of the drug laws enacted in our country you would find that many were in response to anti- Mexican, Chinese or African-American feelings prevalent in the time of their drafting.

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

I think marijuana is safer than viagra …. yes…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

Weed farms? Lol for what? Weed can grow anywhere, why would you buy it of a 3rd party when you can make it yourself.

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 4 minutes after post)

because it will be made illegal. and the fines will be so heavy that you will see it easier just to buy from the market rather than make it yourself.

Sure, we cant get everyone but just think of all the people who would actually buy it. Some people are impatient to wait for things to grow.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 5 minutes after post)

Tony Lopez wrote:
Weed farms? Lol for what? Weed can grow anywhere, why would you buy it of a 3rd party when you can make it yourself.

It can, but there would be masses grown at the farms to turn a profit.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 6 minutes after post)

Breaking The Silence wrote:
because it will be made illegal. and the fines will be so heavy that you will see it easier just to buy from the market rather than make it yourself.

Sure, we cant get everyone but just think of all the people who would actually buy it. Some people are impatient to wait for things to grow.

LMAO, so theres your answer now you know why its illegal. Because the government knows people will just end up growing them themselves.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 8 minutes after post)

Thats not the answer. We have the ability to grow our own foods but do we? We have the ability to grow our own tobacco, do we? We have the ability to make our own alcohol, do we? no.

Its easier for people to allow others to do the work, and us to pay for it. rather than put time and effort into it.

Its a convience issue.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 10 minutes after post)

Well growing crops requires more care, and attention. I mean you can grown weed inside your home for goodness sakes. Like i said its a weed, not a plant. It grows different and the requirements for it to flourish and bud and incredibly simpler

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 11 minutes after post)

Its still a convience issue, its not the fact its easy to grow. Its the fact that its already grown and people dont have to wait for it to grow.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 13 minutes after post)

lol ok sure, you win.

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 14 minutes after post)

come on, we all know people are lazy and rather have stuff handed to them right there and then rather than sitting watching the weed chia pet grow lol

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 15 minutes after post)

ROFL! NICE!

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 hour, 18 minutes after post)

Here this is an excerpt from a political hero of mine Noam Chomsky, hes neutral on the subject of legalization but he has a point. Read it.

HIGH TIMES: Where do you stand on drug legalization?

NOAM CHOMSKY: Nobody knows what the effect would be. Anyone who tells you they know is just stupid or lying, because nobody knows. These are things that have to be tried, you have to experiment to see what the effects are. Most soft drugs are already legal, mainly alcohol and tobacco. Tobacco is by far the biggest killer among all the psychoactives. Alcohol deaths are a little hard to estimate, because an awful lot of violent deaths are associated with alcohol. Way down below come “hard” drugs, a tiny fraction of the deaths from alcohol or tobacco, maybe ten or twenty thousand deaths per year. The fastest-growing hard drugs are the APS, amphetamine-type substances, produced mostly in the U.S.

As far as the rest of the drugs are concerned, marijuana is not known to be very harmful. I mean, it’s generally assumed it’s not good for you, but coffee isn’t good for you, tea isn’t good for you, chocolate cake isn’t good for you either. It would be crazy to criminalize coffee, even though it’s harmful. The United States is one of very few countries where this is considered a moral issue. In most countries you don’t have politicians getting up screaming about how tough they’re going to be on drugs. So the first thing we’ve got to do is move it out of the phase of population control, and into the sphere of social issues. The Rand Corporation estimates that if you compare the effect of criminal programs versus educational programs at reducing drug use, educational programs are way ahead, by about a factor of seven.

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Breaking The Silence wrote:
The only side effect to smoking is the feeling of hunger at the end of it.

Uhh… No.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (5 hours, 40 minutes after post)

ok those who say weed has no bad effects are just naive.
it DOES have some bad effects. inhaling anything, especially smoke into your lungs is bad for you, full stop.
however its no worse than tobacco which is legal, and its less dangerous and has less effects than alcohol.
so yes, it should be legal. for those reasons and coz i likes it :)

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rowass(the great) wrote:
While I do agree that it would be good to rake up the tax money from the legalazation of marijuana would be nice but some of the facts you stated are wrong. Studies show that smoking marijuana is 50-70% WORSE for your lungs than tobacco smoke. Also marijuana does permanent damage to your braincells. There is no way to regrow brain cells. I’m aware that marijuana can be ingested orally as well but that can lead to liver damage as well. On addiction, blunts contain traces of nicotine which can give you an addiction to marijuana, pot is usually laced with other drugs which can lead to addiction, finally marijuana gives you an emotional dependency. This is not a chemical addiction. Once you get high you feel good but when you come down you feel strung out. So then you get high again to feel better. Then eventually you are getting high just to feel normal. So when you feel strung out after that you fall really hard. That is my two cents.

Obviously none of you got this. All of you, these are true facts look them up on any health site. Marijuana is WORSE for you than alchohol and tobacco.

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rowass(the great) wrote:

rowass(the great) wrote:
While I do agree that it would be good to rake up the tax money from the legalazation of marijuana would be nice but some of the facts you stated are wrong. Studies show that smoking marijuana is 50-70% WORSE for your lungs than tobacco smoke. Also marijuana does permanent damage to your braincells. There is no way to regrow brain cells. I’m aware that marijuana can be ingested orally as well but that can lead to liver damage as well. On addiction, blunts contain traces of nicotine which can give you an addiction to marijuana, pot is usually laced with other drugs which can lead to addiction, finally marijuana gives you an emotional dependency. This is not a chemical addiction. Once you get high you feel good but when you come down you feel strung out. So then you get high again to feel better. Then eventually you are getting high just to feel normal. So when you feel strung out after that you fall really hard. That is my two cents.

Obviously none of you got this. All of you, these are true facts look them up on any health site. Marijuana is WORSE for you than alchohol and tobacco.

Lol, where did you get that lot of nonsense?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

I sense another huge fight about if Marijuana is good or bad for you brewing….

*goes into nuclear bunker*

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

Hehe. Odd. If smoking pot makes us dumb, why do we always win these debates?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

I dont think weed make people dumb i think the people who choose to be weed heads are dumb

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

Xeno Dragon wrote:
Hehe. Odd. If smoking pot makes us dumb, why do we always win these debates?

It’s cause your smoking weed, and then you blow it into the computer screen, and then it gets downloaded onto the thread, and the guy your debating isn’t used to it, so he gets more impaired.

Yep, that’s exactly why…..

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

“Weed heads” is no longer politically correct, thank you very much. We prefer, “Pot Head”, or “Stoner-American”. Don’t be racist, jeez. ^_^

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

Huh?? Oh where i come from we call them weed heads i didnt know it was racist lol. I will be more careful next time ;)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

Lol… jokes, man. Relax.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

I was joking LOL thats why i winked. Come on xeno wheres your sense of humor???

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

Or maybe im just not funny. Hey i tried lol

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 3 hours after post)

rowass(the great) wrote:

Breaking The Silence wrote:
The only side effect to smoking is the feeling of hunger at the end of it.

Uhh… No.

I have looked at them and none of them seem to be worst. If you have facts place them on the table but as of yet you have set none down.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 3 hours after post)

theres just as bad, i wouldnt agree that theyre worse, but its undeniable that weed has just as bad effects. however smoking and alcohol are legal so so should weed.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 3 hours after post)

oh yea, Im not saying the effects of weed are good for you. However, Im saying that weed is just like alcohol or tobacco and needs to be re introduced into the community.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 3 hours after post)

Breaking The Silence wrote:
oh yea, Im not saying the effects of weed are good for you. However, Im saying that weed is just like alcohol or tobacco and needs to be re introduced into the community.

reintroduced? It’s never gone away!

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 3 hours after post)

It needs to be introduced in a safe manner. As in education first, allow small groups, and expand slowly.

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Rowass (The Great) offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 4 hours after post)

Breaking The Silence wrote:

rowass(the great) wrote:
Breaking The Silence wrote:
The only side effect to smoking is the feeling of hunger at the end of it.

Uhh… No.

I have looked at them and none of them seem to be worst. If you have facts place them on the table but as of yet you have set none down.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/mar…
http://www.drugabuse.gov/MarijBroch/M…
This one is a kids version but it might help some of the dumbasses.
http://teens.drugabuse.gov/mom/pdf/en…
http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm

If you guys want some more I am happy to find them.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 4 hours after post)

lol a bit hostel eh, but none of this is worst than tobacco or alcohol until its abused which results in the same as what would happen if you overdosed on alcohol.

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Rowass (The Great) offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 4 hours after post)

Breaking The Silence wrote:
lol a bit hostel eh, but none of this is worst than tobacco or alcohol until its abused which results in the same as what would happen if you overdosed on alcohol.

Yes I understand that. I wasn’t trying to be hostile I just didn’t want people to think that marijuana was better for you than alcohol or cigarettes, because as you can see it isn’t. Marijuana is a bad drug but I think, personally, it makes more sense than cigarettes. When you are high, as I have heard, you feel relaxed and good. But smoking cigarettes does not give you that high. I understand where you are coming from BLS.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 5 hours after post)

rowass when you call people dumbasses, it makes them hostile toward you.theres little room for any other reaction there.
makes you not so great.

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Rowass (The Great) offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 5 hours after post)

Hmm…

courtybubble wrote:
rowass when you call people dumbasses, it makes them hostile toward you.theres little room for any other reaction there.
makes you not so great.

This is a typical response from someone who was not involved in the entire post. You should read up young lady.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 5 hours after post)

ive read the whole thing.who are you to presume what i know.
young lady? could you be a bit more condescending next time please?

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 16 hours after post)

Id hate to intervine in this arguement but… you cant say her post is typical because you dont really know if she has read the entire post or not. Lets just ummm get along? that would be cool, just as cool as making marijuana legal.

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Gävle, 03, SE | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

OK, enough of that (hehe).
I am not sure that marijuaa is that bad to your body, but people do some stupid stuff when affected by it.
We know that nicotine is bad to your health, being “more social” or not.
Alcohol is funny but tricky, and has caused a lot of casualities. It is also damaging your health.

It would probably have been better to society if marijuana was legal and tobacco illegal, but we have the existing situation and marijuana IS illegal almost everywhere.

The worst danger with marijuana is its social environment, i.e. that it is dealt with by the same people who deal with worse stuff. The higher up you look in the local distribution lines, the worse crooks you find. Their job is to hook you up in dependence upon their stuff, enabling them to take out the prices they want. Those guys deal with not only stronger stuff, but also with murders and protection business.

In the user lines, young people become criminals to get money for it. Girls sell their bodies for it. And while affected, many get pregnant with guys they wouldn’t dream of when not affected by it.

We almost have a catch 22 here or at least, legalizing would not change some of the things. Having seen that people pay up whatever the price is, you’ll never find a government that would keep their fingers away from it as a tax revenue generator. The price would then also not decrease, and many of the bad side effects would remain. That is politically impossible.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

Very true. However, marijuan is legal in alot of countries, there are very few countries that it is illegal. The United States and Canada look at marijuana as a moral issue and not crime issue or drug issue.

The tax placed on marijuana wouldnt be as great as the amount of money we pay to incarserate the people who have been caught smoking, selling, or buying marijuana. We spend alot of money on those people for such a petty drug.

If you look at those who drink and drive, they get a lighter sentance then those who smoke marijuan or buy it.

I agree with alot of what you say. I think its a time issue, its like gas prices, its gonna take some time before you see some change.

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molotok offline Verified User (3 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 18 #
Gävle, 03, SE | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

I have also an objection to one phrase in the post:
“We as taxpayers pay for people who smoke”…

That is not correct, at least not in Sweden and most other countries. I am a normal tax payer, and I have paid as much taxes as anybody else. On TOP of that, I have paid a fortune in tobacco taxes.
I made a calculation and found that I have paid a few hundred thousand dollars for cigarettes during my life (in today’s value), almost all of it being tax (and as for the rest of it, including taxed revenues from the tobacco company).

Most diseases that are related to smoking are fairly “cheap” to society in comparison to other diseases, because people are not treated for long before they die.
On top of that, heavy smokers who do NOT die directly from their smoking, average a ten year shorter life expectancy. Those ten years are of course taken from the “pension end” of their lives, meaning that they have paid a lifetime of taxes, but are getting a reduced pension.

So while smokers are a chased group, they contribute much more than average to the public finances.

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Breaking The Silence offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

I never said anything agaisnt smokers. Believe me, Im put a big effort into allowing public smoking again just because people have overplayed the drama of second hand smoke.

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Gävle, 03, SE | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 day, 17 hours after post)

Sorry, I misread your above phrase, seeing only the part before the comma (it thereby changed meaning).

I agree in general to that smoking is not good, but I don’t like the hypocracy from the government and from some non-smokers. They complain a lot, but happily consume the smokers’ tax money.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (2 days, 8 hours after post)

Tobacco can kill you.
Alcohol can kill you.
Pot cannot kill you.

Which would you rather try?

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Gävle, 03, SE | 1 year, 5 months ago (2 days, 13 hours after post)

Ewww, then pot seems so not exciting…

Hehe Xeno, I was missing your input!

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Rowass (The Great) offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (2 days, 17 hours after post)

Xeno Dragon wrote:
Tobacco can kill you.
Alcohol can kill you.
Pot cannot kill you.

Which would you rather try?

Ugh… While I hate to correct the great Xeno Dragon, pot can kill you. Sorry potheads!

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Gävle, 03, SE | 1 year, 5 months ago (2 days, 18 hours after post)

A flower pot, falling on your head?

Anything can kill, even water.

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Xeno Dragon offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 28 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (3 days, 8 hours after post)

Rowass wrote:

Xeno Dragon wrote:
Tobacco can kill you.
Alcohol can kill you.
Pot cannot kill you.

Which would you rather try?

Ugh… While I hate to correct the great Xeno Dragon, pot can kill you. Sorry potheads!

Well, drugs used in medicine are routinely given an LD-50. The LD-50 is the Lethal Dose in 50% or more of the population of a group of test animals when given all at once. The LD-50 of water, for example, would be two liters. There is an LD-50 for every drug and substance out there, but some are higher than others. Marijuana’s LD-50, however, has NEVER been reached. To clarify, that means that, to date, researchers have never been able to give a test animal enough marijuana or THC to kill it. In fact, there are no cases of anyone ever dying from the chemicals in marijuana alone either. The LD-50 of marijuana is presently estimated around 1:20,000th or 1:40,000th. A marijuana cigarette weighs about 0.9 grams. What does that mean? It means you’d have to smoke 15,000lbs of it to die. You would have to smoke for about fifty years straight to smoke all that pot. But guess what? You don’t have fifty years. In order to OD on marijuana, you’d have to smoke all 15,000lbs in under 15 minutes. After smoking non-stop for fifteen minutes, you’d have smoked, at most, about an ounce, if you’re an ungodly fast smoker. You could TRY to OD on pot, and you’d pass out or stop caring long before you even died of smoke inhalation.

In short, you CAN die from smoking pot, but it’s not going to happen anytime soon.

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I suppose it could kill you if you dropped 15,000lbs of it on your head, but even then, you’d really just end up swimming in it.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (3 days, 19 hours after post)

Yea out of all the people i know who smoke weed (pot) not one of them have died or have any illnesses. But out of all the people i know who smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol most of them have died. So i cant really see weed killing any body useless they do what xeno said which to mean sounds unlikely…

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, US | 1 year, 5 months ago (3 days, 21 hours after post)

The only way pot could kill you is if you decide to chew on it and begin choking other than that unless you are a complete moron, pot wont kill you. Pot is used alot in medical fields for good. Im not saying its good for you but its not going to kill you.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 5 months ago (6 days, 23 hours after post)

So… sorry, Rowass. But you lose. ^_^ No hard feelings.

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Gävle, 03, SE | 1 year, 5 months ago (1 week after post)

By the way, I am no pothead.
i don’t use it, and I never used it.
But I try to be fair.

I also dislike propaganda, because there are always hidden agendas behind it.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (3 weeks, 3 days after post)

Don’t think so. More and more people are starting to report that marijuana can be very addictive like many other drugs. Just my optinion.

Some resources on the addiction:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/d…
http://www.myaddiction.com/education/…

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (3 weeks, 3 days after post)

More and more people are starting to report Bigfoot sightings, too. Why don’t you go hang out with them?

(I know, I know… I’ll end up addressing that point in more depth later, I’m sure. But for now, I’ll settle with harmless bickering. Because it’s fun, and I’m bored. Eat me. ^_^)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (3 months, 2 weeks after post)

TO ALL:

Yes marijuana is illegal because in the 50’s Hemp was a big producer for clothes fabric etc. And it was making more money then the cotton industry. A congressman/CEO of a BIG cotton COrporation Brought up the bill to increase his revenue. While there are known facts that it doesn’t kill, addict, overdose etc. Over 80% of america knows and accepts marijuana as a NON LETHAL DRug. So why is illegal you say ? IT IS ALREADY A TYCOON. This Drug war is Such a big train you can’t stop it. It puts people in jail, which pay court fees, or need bail bondsman and its just a costly process for any american who goes through it. And just think with the THOUSANDS of people entering or re entering the Process just adds up. The year Nixon started the drug war the government spending was about 100 miL. By the year 2000 we reached a 200 BILLION in government spending where did it come from? No matter what we will have to wait years before the Government will cleanse itself. The Past generation is running out of time and it will Be generation I to bring change. If the Planet makes it that long.

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Marijuana SHOULD BE LEGALIZED! I have been smoking Marijuana for quite a while now I graduated High School smoking weed, Graduated College smoking weed I see no sence in Marijuana being illegal IN ANY STATE! I have friends form way back in High School that still smoke weed and we still hang together and STILL SMOKE WEED! I have an education marijuana did not stop me and i dont belive it would stop anyone.I some Marijuana everyday all day! WE ARE TIRED OF GOING TO JAIL FOR SMOKING MARIJUANA!! If it is legalized it will help out the economy A while lot and stop alott of inocent people from going to jail for smoking Marijuana. MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGALIZED IN ALL STATES NOT JUST ONE

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Indiana. Why it’s not legal,i don’t know! But it’s getting closer. I have smoked pot for 37 years(pretty much everyday). I’am far from brain dead,i have a clean bill of health every time i go to the doctor,i never been arrested,never killed anybody,never robbed a bank,never stole anything!!! I go to work everyday, the past ten years, i might have missed 3/4 days because i was so sick i could’nt get out of bed! I work in the professional field, some people that i work with or around would die if they knew i smoked!!! Most that know could care less, I smoked cigarettes for 36 years and it took forever to quit. Pot on the other hand i can just walk away with no withdraws. If people really what to raise hell they need to raise hell with the goverment and the states about the crap that is being pumped into the air daily, If your afraid of getting cancer or what ever from pot BUY A VAPORIZER!!! There great. A big portion of the people that take prescibed medicine would probably get more benefit from pot than there own medicine. I’ve known and still know cancer patients that smoke pot just to be able to eat,sleep,keep from getting sick,or just plain make it through the day! Wake up people it can be legal, I know police,state police,lawyers,judges,teachers,etc… that smoke pot they are just more descete about it!!! Get a clue people competition will pretty much be gone,all the innocent people will be let out of jail,just because they smoked one!!! Remember you can go to your local bar and get drunker than pee then get behind the wheel of your car and it’s totally legal,,,, oh! until you get caught. Regulation is all we need for weed!!! I will smoke until the day i die, sorry if your offended!!! Did i mention i have police that live on both sides of me!!! For them it’s to much paperwork for them it’s easier to look the other way, they see it everyday, innocent people going to jail because they inhaled. Wake up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the money that is wasted trying to stop pot use, ask anyone in law enforcement or goverment and if there honest they’ll tell you were throwing our money out the door. pot use will never stop, control it with some form of regulation or something.

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Marijuana doesn’t kill brain cells, the government proved that when they discovered brain receptors in ‘88, and then Prozac, riddelin, ect was possible to be made (the pills), it was formulated to fake a marijuana high. Possible after discovering the brain receptors. the receptors router the information through the synapse in the brain (brain fluid).thus the info goes to the wrong brain cells, causing daydreaming, Creative thoughts and it’s an herb, not a drug. Let me clarify- drugs kill by way of poisoning. [Poisoning] is the result of chemical death to an organic organism. Toxins build up and you O.D. Marijuana is a non-toxic %100 organic material. No hang over (detox of your body), never feel sick (your not poisoned by the HERB) In closing, Marijuana does not have any negative effects on the brain…………………………uh………………………………uh. ………………Sorry I lost my train of thought, I’m a little high right now

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