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BlindOptimism offline Verified User (2 months, 3 weeks) Shouts: 339 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (2 minutes after post)

honestly, not really. i am who i am today because of the things i’ve felt. i’m sorry that you are going through a bad experience :( and i’m sure you dont want the cliche it’ll make you a better person, ad nauseum. but remember that not every one will hurt you. try your best not to let your bad experiences ruin your future ones :)

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hey...iknowyou offline Verified User (5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 68 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (3 minutes after post)

Emotional pain sucks.

Physical pain is somewhat unnecessary, although it also sucks.

It would be nice if it didn’t exist but it’s human nature to become attached to things/people, and that will inevitable lead to pain if anything goes wrong. If I have to go through some pain in order to get all the fantastic friends I have, it’s an easy choice :)

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (4 minutes after post)

BlindOptimism wrote:
honestly, not really. i am who i am today because of the things i’ve felt. i’m sorry that you are going through a bad experience :( and i’m sure you dont want the cliche it’ll make you a better person, ad nauseum. but remember that not every one will hurt you. try your best not to let your bad experiences ruin your future ones :)

Yeah, just everybody I’ve met in the past 5 years seems to have hurt me and I’m just fed up. I’ve had enough.

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Chameleon offline Verified User (2 months, 1 week) Shouts: 676 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (4 minutes after post)

There is no love where the person will never hurt you. Love is only successful when we learn to forgive those that hurt us.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (5 minutes after post)

Chameleon wrote:
Love is only successful when we learn to forgive those that hurt us.

That’s a lot easier said than done. I try, but sometimes, the pain they’ve caused just can’t be healed.

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BlindOptimism offline Verified User (2 months, 3 weeks) Shouts: 339 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (7 minutes after post)

bookworm15 wrote:

BlindOptimism wrote:
honestly, not really. i am who i am today because of the things i’ve felt. i’m sorry that you are going through a bad experience :( and i’m sure you dont want the cliche it’ll make you a better person, ad nauseum. but remember that not every one will hurt you. try your best not to let your bad experiences ruin your future ones :)

Yeah, just everybody I’ve met in the past 5 years seems to have hurt me and I’m just fed up. I’ve had enough.

yeah. i’m sorry to hear that. a lot of people suck and i dont blame you in the slightest for being angry. but i know you know inside that there are plenty of wonderful people who are worth you’re time as well. the important thing is to not let yourself turn into one of these horrible bitter lying cheating people and lose your truly amazing self. save your energy for the people who can appriciate it - because they are definintely out there and will cherish it :)

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (8 minutes after post)

I know it’s easier said than done but you have to just pick yourself up and carry on. It’s what we all have to do. What’s the point in dwelling in it? What’s the point in letting it get to you? It’s only going to get you down.
You might as well move on. Dwelling on problems doesn’t bring much happiness.

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Chameleon offline Verified User (2 months, 1 week) Shouts: 676 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (9 minutes after post)

bookworm15 wrote:

Chameleon wrote:
Love is only successful when we learn to forgive those that hurt us.
That’s a lot easier said than done. I try, but sometimes, the pain they’ve caused just can’t be healed.

Some things aren’t forgivable. It is hard to forgive, but if you hope to retain a longterm relationship - forgiveness is a big part of that.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (10 minutes after post)

Yeah, all of this is easy to say when you have friends that care.

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (11 minutes after post)

It’s easy to SAY no matter what. Less easy to do, I’ll give you that but still, that shouldn’t stop you.
Reach for the stars.

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Chameleon offline Verified User (2 months, 1 week) Shouts: 676 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (11 minutes after post)

bookworm15 wrote:
Yeah, all of this is easy to say when you have friends that care.

I don’t have any friends. I’ve been married for 27 years and all I’m saying is the only reason I’ve managed that is because my husband and I have forgiven each other 783,352,359,323 times.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (12 minutes after post)

I can’t forgive the person that hurt me. I trusted them for so much, they knew how hard it was for me to trust again, and they didn’t care when it came to it.

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (16 minutes after post)

It’s your choice to forgive them or not, up to you. But if you can’t forgive them and you’ve decided you’re not going to, why are you still dwelling on it?

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Chameleon offline Verified User (2 months, 1 week) Shouts: 676 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (18 minutes after post)

If you decide it’s unforgivable, then walk away and in time you will be able to hand your heart over to another. Yes, it might get hurt again and then the process just repeats itself. Such is life.

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elysium offline Verified User (4 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 109 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (18 minutes after post)

Well I think the only you would be able to stop feeling the emotional pain, would be to have no emotions at all. You can’t get rid of 1 emotion without getting rid of all of them.

I think the trick to being emotionally stable, is using each emotion to control each other. So if you are feeling sad, then find something funny to cheer you up. Trusting people is a really difficult thing to especially if you want to open up to them.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (19 minutes after post)

Because even though I know I can’t forgive them, it doesn’t stop it hurting. Especially when I know they’re so happy, it’s like what they did didn’t even matter.

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Chameleon offline Verified User (2 months, 1 week) Shouts: 676 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (21 minutes after post)

Yes it takes time to move on from being hurt, and it does feel rotten when they don’t even care that they hurt you. But hey, at least you found out now about him.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (22 minutes after post)

It wasn’t a him, it was a her. Not my boyfriend (I don’t have one) but my supposed best friend.

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (23 minutes after post)

Maybe you shouldn’t try to figure out what they’re feeling when you don’t know. People react in different ways. It would be sad if someone didn’t care if they’d hurt someone. I guess… I don’t know, maybe it would hurt less if you tried to properly close off the situation. So it didn’t leave a gaping wound?
Just… I guess I’m saying, don’t be fooled by outer exteriors.

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Chameleon offline Verified User (2 months, 1 week) Shouts: 676 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (23 minutes after post)

Oooh. Sorry I misunderstood. Well the same advice goes, just replace “him” with “her”.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (24 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
Maybe you shouldn’t try to figure out what they’re feeling when you don’t know.

Well I do know when they just made a happy post!

Anonymous wrote:
maybe it would hurt less if you tried to properly close off the situation. So it didn’t leave a gaping wound?

And how do you suggest I do that?

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elysium offline Verified User (4 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 109 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (33 minutes after post)

So basically, I think what anon is saying (if not, this my opinion) just because they don’t seem to care doesn’t mean that they don’t. The best thing that you can do is just say to them that they HAVE (not are) been a good friend, but what they did to you cannot be forgiven. You could then let them know that you are now feel indifferent towards them and hope that your friendship can be rebuilt.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (35 minutes after post)

elysium87 wrote:
The best thing that you can do is just say to them that they HAVE (not are) been a good friend

Well if they didn’t know, they do now. So … job done. But if they didn’t know that already, then they weren’t who I thought they were anyway. Ok, I could have behaved better this past week or so, but I tried my best.

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gone.... offline Verified User (7 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (44 minutes after post)

If you tried your best, who can argue?

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (46 minutes after post)

Was anyone arguing? Did she not think your best was good enough?

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (47 minutes after post)

I can blame me, because I tried as hard as I could, but then I always think maybe I could have tried harder, and if I had this wouldn’t have happened. Even though deep down, I know I did as much as I thought I could at the time.

Anonymous wrote:
Was anyone arguing? Did she not think your best was good enough?

I have no idea seen as she’s not exactly talking to me right now. We had about 5 minutes of talk last night and a couple of texts today that were about nothing in particular.

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (49 minutes after post)

Friends do inevitable fall out - is it not possible this is just another fall out?

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (52 minutes after post)

No, when we do fall out, she never treats me like this. I’m going to have to get over it and live with it eventually. When she does talk to me she doesn’t even want me to know it’s her. Like she’s talking to me right now, she thinks I don’t know it’s her, but I do.

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Anonymous #
2 months ago (55 minutes after post)

Hehe, actually I did know you knew it was me, I was wondering how long you would keep talking. And I was just trying to see what you were thinking of me for all of this. Can’t blame a woman for trying.

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gone.... offline Verified User (7 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (55 minutes after post)

You can only try so hard before there is a limit, sometimes you have to let things ride. If she’s worth it, then eventually you’re going to have to forgive her, otherwise really why exert the effort?

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (56 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
Hehe, actually I did know you knew it was me, I was wondering how long you would keep talking. And I was just trying to see what you were thinking of me for all of this. Can’t blame a woman for trying.

Ok, so can I ask you one thing, and tell the truth. Why?

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (57 minutes after post)

If I know, it’s so much easier to get over. Then I’m not worrying about the why all the time, I can just focus on getting over it and moving on.

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cookies and cream offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 57 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (58 minutes after post)

You really want to know why? You’re not going to like it.

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bookworm15 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 93 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (58 minutes after post)

cookies and cream wrote:
You really want to know why? You’re not going to like it.

I don’t care, I want to know. I’d rather I knew so I knew what I was crying about rather than crying about something I don’t understand.

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cookies and cream offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 57 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

Fine.

Well the last straw for me was the whole “If you’re not here by 5 to I’m going without you”. I’d told you a lot of times that if I was too much of an inconvenience on you then I could make other arrangements, and go with other people.
You know something? I may be a *****. I may have ruined your trust forever (although I really fail to see how not being someone’s friend is ruining trust). But I would never turn around to you and say that if you weren’t at my house on time I would leave you on a doorstep and go without you.
You could have just told me to go with someone else. But to be frank, that was the last straw and I didn’t like that thought that you really would just leave me on a doorstep and go without me.

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Don’t you just wish that sometimes we didn’t have pain. It wasn’t there, we couldn’t feel it. No so much physical pain, more emotional.

I’m fed up of trusting people just to have it all thrown back in my face. I thought I’d found the right person to trust but evidently not. I thought I could pick myself up and carry on, but I don’t think I can this time. It’s happened so many times … what’s the point in letting someone in again when all they’ll do is hurt me?

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