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Girlfriend and the vicious cycle.

—This girl and I have been dating the most part of two years now. What first happened is after out first six months together, she started smoking cigarettes. This very soon led to her drinking and smoking weed and eventually trying cocaine. We had been on the subject before, and I told her I don’t like those things, especially at fifteen years old. She said how it was stupid, and she would never “do any of that”. So when she decided to start I told her right off the bat I didn’t like it, and it was just going to hurt her in the long run. She wouldn’t quit anything and it bugged me so much and so often that I decided to end the relationship.
–When two people still care about eachother, it’s hard to stay broken up. So we were soon talking again, and she was talking about how she would quit if we starting seeing eachother again. So I believed her and we were okay, except ANYTIME she was upset, she would go right back to doing the drugs and drinking. Also, her second.. quirk would come up. She gets real mad, real fast. Because I’m basically one of her only real friends she will often call me when she’s upset, and she will start to pick on me instead of vent about whatever made her upset. When I confronted her about this, she said she can’t help it and she is just a p-o’d person. What makes this worse is just how often it happens (every 1-3 weeks, usually on the sooner end of that) and it gets really old.
–So as of right now we were kinda involved, but not officially dating or anything. She was still smoking and drinking, but we were getting along okay. Then she had another episode and right now I’m having second thoughts on the relationship.
–For those of you who will suggest ending the dating relationship with her, do you have any ideas as to help me get over her in the romantic way, while remaining a friend? i’m just stuck in a vicious cycle you could say.

Thanks for reading,
-Alec

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hey...iknowyou offline Verified User (5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 69 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (8 minutes after post)

Aw man my condolences for your situation, it sounds awful.

To me it sounds like you should not be in a relationship with her, at least until she sorts herself out with whatever issues she is going through. In terms of getting over her, I cannot provide to much advice really on the matter that I know works firsthand. I would maybe try to set down some ground rules though, as in try meeting up with her in groups of people as this would be less likely for anything to happen between the two of you.

You should maybe try to get her to see how much this is upsetting you. Do your best to get her to stop doing these things but remember that ultimately it is down to her. There is a strong possibility of her pushing you away and getting angry with you for bringing it up. If this does happen do not get angry back at her as this will just make things worse, just do your best to be there for her. Chances are there is a reason she is doing all of these things, perhaps she is unhappy about something.

Sorry, I’m kind of babbling here. I hope at least some of what I said helps.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (13 minutes after post)

She has a lot of depression problems, a rather sad childhood, and also has panic attacks/issues for shich she takes medication. She gets depressed easily, and I believe this is the source of her anger. She doesn’t liek to cry because “it shows weakness”, and I think she also see’s it as a weakness to be sad, so then she gets angry to vent it some other way. I just don’t know how to help her cope.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (14 minutes after post)

Has she been getting any form of counselling? It sounds like she need more than just medication to me.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (14 minutes after post)

She refuses, and looked rather hurt when her father suggested counseling or anger management.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (28 minutes after post)

That can often be a problem, particularly with people such as this girl. If she feels that crying is a form of weakness than she will feel the same about counselling I would imagine. A lot of people have quite a taboo about going to seek professional help, they feel that it reflects negatively on their character.

I think you should talk to her about this and do your best to try to change her opinions on this matter. Explain that counselling is quite often far more effective than just taking medication for mental health problems. There is nothing to be ashamed of about going to a counsellor. These are the kind of points that you need to try to get her to see.

Perhaps if you could find an anonymous charity helpline for problems such as this then she might be more likely to ring them than going to talk to a counsellor face-to-face. This in turn may lead to her changing her opinions about getting professional help. Hell, even try to introduce her to this site. There are a lot of fantastic people here that would do their best to talk to her.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (30 minutes after post)

Did you say you guys are 15 years old? At 15, I had my head in books! How times have changed… :)

You seem like a very reasonable, sensitive, level-headed young person and I’m sorry to hear of your situation.

Right off the bat, I would strongly suggest that a romantic attachment to this girl is not a good idea. She sounds as though she needs to sort a few issues out before she gets involved with anybody again.

As for you and how to get over it, just know that you’re not doing her any favours by being with her - and certainly not yourself. She’s making excuses and taking the easy path by unleashing her negativity on you, and you’re standing there absorbing it all. She’s getting away with too much, and you’re taking it. She needs to take responsibility for her actions, and you need to stand up and be your own person. Life goes on and the heart heals itself if you allow it to.

And while you want to be a good friend to her, just be aware that her behaviour is going to be erratic, and possibly a little manipulative, if she is dabbling in drugs. So tread carefully. The last thing you need is to be dragged into damaging behaviours yourself.

Do her parents know what she’s up to? I bet they’d be pretty worried and would want to take steps toward helping her - after all, it’s their responsibility.

But it’s certainly a serious matter with drugs involved. I would suggest, as others here have, that she needs professional help. As much as you want to be there for her, it sounds as though it’s a situation that requires a trained expert to help solve. Do you have a school counsellor? Or some other adult you can trust who you can ask about it? There are anonymous helplines around too and, yes, this site as well…

If you do want to help your friend, it would be worth asking a proper counsellor for some advice - find a way to ease her into getting help, without it being too confronting. They might also be able to talk you through what you’re experiencing in all this as well. Best of luck.

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2 months ago (54 minutes after post)

Have You Tried An Intervention??

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (2 hours, 56 minutes after post)

Whatever haapens…….you can’t be friends with someone that you know you can’t see with someone else….Trust me…I am 9 years into my “cycle” Mine just isn’t vicious. We love each other, are in love with each other, and we are each others can’t live with them, can’t live without them person. The relationship is awesome when it’s awesome and when it’s not…We give each other space. I still hurt over him and he still hurts over me….I don’t think that we will be seeing each other anymore so….this pain should have been over years ago…The longer that you hold on the longer it will take you to get over it.

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An Unknown Location | 1 month, 4 weeks ago (5 hours, 44 minutes after post)

We were 15 two years ago, now 17. I’m afraid to bring up any sort of serious help because I’m almost certain of how she will react. I will probably get a “you of all people should know that I don’t neep help with anything” or something of that nature. I will try something though. Her parents, well her dad anyways (thats who she lives with) doesnt seem to care all that much. He at least knows about the smoking and still lets her go out with the people she does it with every other day so I honestly doubt he would be much help. He is also a pretty angry person, and she doesn’t respond well to yelling.

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An Unknown Location | 1 month, 4 weeks ago (10 hours, 31 minutes after post)

Even if you show her this post it might help things. Getting things down in writing is a good way to communicate as it means that the other person cannot interrupt you and that you have time to think about what you want to say.

If she see’s everybodies reaction to this post it may help her. Not guaranteed to mind you, but it might.

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An Unknown Location | 1 month, 4 weeks ago (10 hours, 41 minutes after post)

You will come up against people like this many more times in your life I call them Energy Vampires they are nice people usually, but they suck you dry. Steer clear of the energy vampires.

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