god help: My own personal Jesus. - Help.com

BaconByAnyOtherName
offline Verified (2 years, 1 month) Add Friend Visit BaconByAnyOtherName's shoutbox
An Undisclosed Location

My own personal Jesus.

I have been following my own religion for a while, but i cant seem to get anyone i tell to really understand, and sometimes i get some dirty looks. Ive not decided a name yet, some suggestions would be nice. *sigh* does anyone want to join? its quite simple really, these are the big points that differ from mainstream christianity:

1. The Bible was written and interpreted by humans, which makes it flawed in it’s very nature.

2. God is what you percieve him as

3. Humankind is flawed by definition, making any manner of holy book not written by god himself also flawed.

also, any help on how i can state my religion without the dirty looks or scoffing/chuckling would be helpful.

This closed post was written 1 year, 4 months ago | V/U/S: 408, 31, 8 | Edit Post | Subscribe to Replies | Report Post


Reciprocity (0) Reciprocation Failure -- The poster has NOT helped anyone else yet!

Since writing this post BaconByAnyOtherName may have helped people, but has not within the last 4 days. BaconByAnyOtherName is a verified member, has been around for 2 years, 1 month and has 397 posts and 6,532 replies to their name.

Post Tags (10)

Replies (31)

Where were you?

Click and drag to move the map around. FAQ: How we place people on this map »
You can also watch events on Help.com as they happenDisable Post Maps or Hide Yourself
Mouse over the map for 2 seconds to see an expanded, interactive view

BaconByAnyOtherName edited this post 1 year, 4 months ago. Read the previous text »

My own personal Jesus. I have been following my own religion for a while, but i cant seem to get anyone i tell to really understand, and sometimes i get some dirty looks. Ive decided to call it Agnistinity, as it takes from christianity and agnosticism a bit. *sigh* does anyone want to join? its quite simple really, this is how it differs from mainstream christianity or mormonism:

1. The Bible was written and interpreted by humans, which makes it flawed in it’s very nature.

2. God is what you percieve him as

3. Humankind is flawed by definition, making any manner of holy book not written by god himself also flawed.

Help me with: The Big Time.

BaconByAnyOtherName edited this post 1 year, 4 months ago. Read the previous text »

My own personal Jesus. I have been following my own religion for a while, but i cant seem to get anyone i tell to really understand, and sometimes i get some dirty looks. Ive decided to call it Agnistinity, as it takes from christianity and agnosticism a bit. *sigh* does anyone want to join? its quite simple really, this is how it differs from mainstream christianity:

1. The Bible was written and interpreted by humans, which makes it flawed in it’s very nature.

2. God is what you percieve him as

3. Humankind is flawed by definition, making any manner of holy book not written by god himself also flawed.

also, any help on how i can state my religion without the dirty looks or scoffing/chuckling would be helpful.

Help me with: The Big Time.

BaconByAnyOtherName invited 53 users to read this post 1 year, 4 months ago.

Help me with: The Big Time.

BaconByAnyOtherName edited this post 1 year, 4 months ago. Read the previous text »

My own personal Jesus. I have been following my own religion for a while, but i cant seem to get anyone i tell to really understand, and sometimes i get some dirty looks. Ive not decided a name yet, some suggestions would be nice. *sigh* does anyone want to join? its quite simple really, this is how it differs from mainstream christianity:

1. The Bible was written and interpreted by humans, which makes it flawed in it’s very nature.

2. God is what you percieve him as

3. Humankind is flawed by definition, making any manner of holy book not written by god himself also flawed.

also, any help on how i can state my religion without the dirty looks or scoffing/chuckling would be helpful.

Help me with: The Big Time.
miskat offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (25 minutes after post)

I don’t know much about it, but wouldn’t Spiritualism perhaps suit you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritua…

====

More people have their own personal Jesus: =)


Original on YouTube.com

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: We Feel Fine.

miskat invited 1 user to read this post 1 year, 4 months ago.

Help me with: We Feel Fine.
BaconByAnyOtherName offline Verified User (2 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (27 minutes after post)

thats not quite it. i dont do psychics. thanks though =D

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: The Big Time.
BaconByAnyOtherName offline Verified User (2 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (27 minutes after post)

it also says that video is no longer available, but if its the song i think it is, then its one of my faves.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: The Big Time.
miskat offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (30 minutes after post)

Now do I have that often with youtube.
I played it a second agon, perhaps refreshing the browser helps.

Anyways, yeah, you probably guessed it, but it is not the original, I like this one by Marylin Manson personally better.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: We Feel Fine.
logout offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 1 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (44 minutes after post)

Sounds good to me…its very general though. I could apply that to a few religions i know of.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: Celebration of Love.
live.enjoylife offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 31 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (3 hours, 40 minutes after post)

AWESOME SONG!! Omg I LOve that song!!
well- i’m not sure of a name for you but…good for you!

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: THIS IS FOR SOULsaver
Sans offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 57 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (5 hours, 8 minutes after post)

Bacon a lot of us are already following that religion. I recently found a book by Depak Chopra called “The Third Jesus” that deals with what you’re talking about. (I know, I thought the author was a cliche and had never read anything of his.) He looks at the differences between the man Jesus in history, the theological Jesus of church tradition, and a “third Jesus”, one who died to show us how to love, but isn’t waiting to annihilate unbelievers. I would probably be a Buddhist or something like that, but the story/person of Jesus has always been dear to me. Every church I was a part of pissed me off in some way, and I refuse to follow and give money to what so often amounts to the “God business”.

When I was young I went through a time of what I consider semi-schizophrenia, in which I thought I knew a bunch of end of the world crap. It was of course a delusion of grandeur. I can relate to getting odd looks from people. I think many if not all of the writers of scripture (the Bible and others) were probably suffering similar delusions. But that doesn’t mean they didn’t also glimpse some truth. The problem arises when they never discover the delusion, proclaim their revelations as sacrosanct, and set about to start a religion (which is always the “true” religion). Then followers see an avenue to power, and use that religion’s structure to control people. The early followers of Jesus, as far as the Bible describes them, lived more like hippies on a commune than members of a present-day church. “Starting your own religion” has no up-side to it. What you’re really looking for, I believe, is spiritual communion with others of like beliefs.

Not content sifting through arcane passages of old books, I recently discovered an avenue of science that helps me integrate my world view that we are evolving toward the reign of God. The Singularity is a hypothetical event at which our exponential curve in technological advancement results in a radical transformation of society, and the leap, first of humans, then animals, then all of matter, into digital non-biological existence. The leader in this thinking is Ray Kurzweil. Many of the changes he sees as occurring through technology have parallels in the Bible (and I would imagine in other holy books as well). The Singularitarians have yet to take in to consideration the similarities, I think, or the social upheaval that would inevitably occur.

But anyway, if you’re set on starting your own, may I suggest.. Baconist. It’s short and simple. My other suggestion was First Church of the Almighty Dollar but I think that one’s taken.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Anonymous #
1 year, 4 months ago (7 hours, 21 minutes after post)

kinda….who cares teh name (unless youre just messing around…its between you & God!

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Tsherlin offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (10 hours, 48 minutes after post)

The people who wrote the bible were ordained by God to write it. Every word of the Holy Bible is divine and exact. God, persay, guided the hand of each scribe.

You either believe the entire bible is unflawed and perfect…or that the whole thing is rubbish.

Believing there are mistakes in the Bible would negate all of christianity.

Thats why I read The King James version.
Its not in its original language…which means that right off the bat, there are certain flaws in the translation, but the KJ version is the closest to its original text.

I disagree strongly with all of the ridiculous versions we have these days though.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
betta offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 Add Friend #
Toronto, ON, CA | 1 year, 4 months ago (11 hours, 41 minutes after post)

If it really is your own personal religion, then you really have no reason to share it with anyone. If you are planning on spreading your new religion, then I hope you get struck down by lightning first because we already have enough religions out there.

Here are the tennants of my personal religion:

Everyone is retarded except me.
The moon is made of blue cheese. It only transforms into a rock when space ships come for a visit.
We are all going to hell no matter what we believe or what we do so we might as well enjoy life while we’re not in hell.
God had a really messed up sense of humour. He designed australia last, right after he designed mind altering drugs. The drugs had some effect on the creations in that country such as the duck billed platipus.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
betta offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 Add Friend #
Toronto, ON, CA | 1 year, 4 months ago (11 hours, 42 minutes after post)

You probably get dirty looks from evangelical types who think your headed for hell on a white horse. You shouldn’t even bother telling those people that sort of thing.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Sans offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 57 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (12 hours, 55 minutes after post)

Tsherlin wrote:
You either believe the entire bible is unflawed and perfect…or that the whole thing is rubbish.

Fortunately, no one dictates what I can believe or can’t. If I choose to believe in the divinity of Jesus, and yet think that advising slaves to be obedient and women to be silent is wrong, I can.

betta wrote:
The moon is made of blue cheese. It only transforms into a rock when space ships come for a visit.

Betta, you are so right, except that it’s made of “bleu” cheese.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
This reply has been removed.
This reply has been removed.
Anonymous #
1 year, 4 months ago (19 hours, 57 minutes after post)

hmm..

Tsherlin wrote:
The people who wrote the bible were ordained by God to write it. Every word of the Holy Bible is divine and exact. God, persay, guided the hand of each scribe.

You either believe the entire bible is unflawed and perfect…or that the whole thing is rubbish.

Believing there are mistakes in the Bible would negate all of christianity.

Thats why I read The King James version.
Its not in its original language…which means that right off the bat, there are certain flaws in the translation, but the KJ version is the closest to its original text.

I disagree strongly with all of the ridiculous versions we have these days though.

i wouldnt tell people that they cant beleive something like that, because, they can.

but i agree on one part.

if parts of it are not true, why would any of it be?
its like, if you know someone lies, you dont listen to them
why wouldnt it be like that with the bilbe?

if you beleive none of it/or all of its true, you dont run into this problem

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Sans offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 57 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (20 hours, 6 minutes after post)

Silverwings, you know I respect your faith and value our friendship, so I hope you don’t take this wrong.

Silverwings wrote:
{quote sans…
Fortunately, no one dictates what I can believe or can’t. If I choose to believe in the divinity of Jesus, and yet think that advising slaves to be obedient and women to be silent is wrong, I can. quote}

Sans.. it is my belief that these things were speaking to the people of the day, and the culture at the time.

That’s a common rationalization. God doesn’t change, but humans evolve, physically, socially and spiritually. God wouldn’t endorse the subjugation of women or slavery (as Paul did, supposedly under divine inspiration), anymore than He would need flour, oil and blood sacrifices of livestock (it was literally a barbecue for benefit of the priests). I’ve been a Christian for nearly 40 years, read the book straight through several times and studied it for more hours than I care to recall. I’ve experienced salvation, baptism, baptism in the Holy Spirit, prayed in tongues, belonged to several denominations, attended black churches, gone on mission trips, been confirmed as a Roman Catholic and heard God quite clearly for several years (which I now consider to have been a bout with mental illness). So please don’t tell me that if I’ll just pray sincerely and read the Bible that God will reveal the truth to me.

And anon, as far as lies go, they are much more effective if mixed with truth. The writers of the Bible were influenced by politics and such and were not always 100% inspired–in my opinion. I don’t turn away from a sunset because there’s a fast food restaurant in the foreground, I appreciate what there is to see.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Tsherlin offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (21 hours, 18 minutes after post)

sansceriph wrote:
[quote Tsherlin]You either believe the entire bible is unflawed and perfect…or that the whole thing is rubbish.

Fortunately, no one dictates what I can believe or can’t. If I choose to believe in the divinity of Jesus, and yet think that advising slaves to be obedient and women to be silent is wrong, I can.

you can believe whatever you want.
but its ignorant to believe in half the bible.
thats called selective reading…and its a disorder.

the culture in bible days was different. it wasnt slavery as we know it today.
slaves learned to love their masters. as a matter of fact, the culture then was for a slave to do his duty for 6 years and the 7th year he would be released…many slaves, however, went to their masters and said “master pierce my ear, for i will serve no other master” this was an act of love for their master. they would go to the door post of their house and pierce their ear which meant they were a slave to them for the rest of their lives…and they did it voluntarily.

we have no system like this today. things like that were written in the old testament…which is more of a history book than a rule book for our lives.

same kind of thing with women….it doesnt apply to present times and culture.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Sans offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 57 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (21 hours, 44 minutes after post)

Tsherlin wrote:
you can believe whatever you want.
but its ignorant to believe in half the bible.
thats called selective reading…and its a disorder.

Critical thinking isn’t a disorder. Without it there would never have been a Reformation. I’m done with this argument.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Tsherlin offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (1 day, 20 hours after post)

sansceriph wrote:

Tsherlin wrote:
you can believe whatever you want.
but its ignorant to believe in half the bible.
thats called selective reading…and its a disorder.

Critical thinking isn’t a disorder. Without it there would never have been a Reformation. I’m done with this argument.

I didn’t say anything about critical thinking…God no, critical thinking isn’t a disorder.

Thank God for critical thinkers!!

I said selective reading sansceriph….don’t put words in my mouth.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
BaconByAnyOtherName offline Verified User (2 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (1 day, 21 hours after post)

he isnt, youre treating the words “Selective reading” and “Critical thinking” as though their interchangeable. youre shifting words to make a point, which isnt really valid in the first place. saying that you cant believe some things and not others in the bible is like saying you cant believe some things and believe others you read on wikipedia.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: The Big Time.
Tsherlin offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (1 day, 21 hours after post)

You’re both being ignorant.

People that post on wikipedia aren’t God ordained to do so….?

And I’m not using those words interchangeably…..do you guys even know what “selective reading” is?

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
BaconByAnyOtherName offline Verified User (2 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (1 day, 21 hours after post)

its like selective listening. except with reading. new question…are familliar with the phrase “only jesus is perfect”?

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: The Big Time.
BaconByAnyOtherName offline Verified User (2 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (1 day, 21 hours after post)

its like selective listening. except with reading. new question…are you familliar with the phrase “only jesus is perfect”?

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: The Big Time.
Tsherlin offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 Add Friend #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (2 days, 11 hours after post)

yep

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
BaconByAnyOtherName offline Verified User (2 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 3 Add Friend #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 4 months ago (2 days, 11 hours after post)

then your point is invalid. im closing this post because im tired of arguing with morons.

Quote this reply Report this reply to moderators
Help me with: The Big Time.

BaconByAnyOtherName closed this post.

This post has been closed, no more replies. Thanks!

Invite Others to Help

Seeing as this post is closed, no invites are allowed.