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Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 minute after post)

Oh thank you so much. I am right behind you. ;)

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (3 minutes after post)

Very good. The loan shark will get no response and go away. When I checked his replies, the most recent one was 51 minutes ago.

And if he gets replies, it’s probably another scammer. I appreciate the effort though and will look at the trail some more.

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

After a mod gets the report, he or she will see that person’s IP address, and if they are on as multiple users, will ban the IP.

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

sansceriph wrote:
After a mod gets the report, he or she will see that person’s IP address, and if they are on as multiple users, will ban the IP.

You are amusing the mods can or are that intelligent.

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (9 minutes after post)

Sophie, please don’t start.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (12 minutes after post)

Yeah, thanks sansceriph, you were the only person who really took me seriously and jumped in to help.

And then I got told off for interrupting the ‘are helpers getting lazy post’. Felt it was ironic to tell you the truth. All the helpers were there whilst the scammers were on the loose! :)

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phuckit! offline Verified User (3 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 61 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (14 minutes after post)

ok im here the mod shark

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (15 minutes after post)

I have been in the same position. But it’s better to start a post about it than to interrupt someone else’s. We were heavily trolled by members of another site that used to be owned by the company that owns this one (until recently), and I couldn’t find mod for several hours. It happens far less now. But multiple reports actually slows down the process.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (17 minutes after post)

Yeah, I was just getting so frustrated. I learned very quickly how to follow them from post to post. At least they stopped, a small victory, but one I am hanging on to.

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (18 minutes after post)

sansceriph wrote:
But multiple reports actually slows down the process.

if true shows bad web site development and management.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (19 minutes after post)

We definately need mods who work ‘European’ hours. If all the mods are from the USA, there is bound to be a time slot when they are all off line. And people will take advantage of that.

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (21 minutes after post)

but with this stupid help.com army and users that are willing to challenge them, once they get get banned they will only make new accounts.

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (23 minutes after post)

The need for a British or European mod has been a problem for awhile. Several of the current mods spend a lot of time on the site, and a few are not very active. They handle all the conflict and boring work for the site–unpaid. Since the parent company was sold to CBS, the admin has been out of pocket and everything is left to the mods. Only the admin can assign new mods. I don’t always agree with them, but I respect them.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (24 minutes after post)

eh?

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

lol..cnet has given the mods powers that few mods on other sites have…..

They are admins……unpaid.

A cheep way of managing the site.

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

Anubis wrote:
eh?

eh? eh? Did you not know the background? That CNET was sold to CBS and we’re sort of on our own?

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (30 minutes after post)

True Sophie. Hopefully that situation will change.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (33 minutes after post)

Oh okay. I didn’t realise the ramifications. Seems poor going if Mods are unpaid admins. Maybe the mods need to protest.

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sans-sans offline Verified User (8 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 152 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (35 minutes after post)

There’s no one to protest to. The admin is now working on another CBS project. We’re on the back burner with the corporation. I think they continue out of loyalty to the people here.

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Chameleon offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 13 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (35 minutes after post)

I haven’t been here very long, so I don’t feel I really have the right to comment much on this, but I sure wish there were more mods on at any one time. It’s too much for one to handle sometimes, and frankly, I’d prefer to have choices as to which mods to go to with problems.
I believe lots of people here would be willing to put in the time and effort of being a mod for free, if only they’d let more join the Mod Squad.

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (35 minutes after post)

no announcement of any changes yet even thought the current developer keeps coming online from time to time.

take it the users will continue to be treated like rubbish.

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (50 minutes after post)

-Sophie- wrote:

sansceriph wrote:
But multiple reports actually slows down the process.

if true shows bad web site development and management.

Okay Sophie, suppose you can prove once and for all that this is true. Then what? Where does that leave you? Do you “want your money back?” Or will you take your knowledge of web site and development and start a whole new HELP that you will finally be happy with?

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (54 minutes after post)

florie wrote:

-Sophie- wrote:
sansceriph wrote:
But multiple reports actually slows down the process.
if true shows bad web site development and management.
Okay Sophie, suppose you can prove once and for all that this is true. Then what? Where does that leave you? Do you “want your money back?” Or will you take your knowledge of web site and development and start a whole new HELP that you will finally be happy with?

no I just wold like this site to see the criticism and consider it……maybe take other factors into account that only the mods and admins know and improve the site.

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smoogie. offline Verified User (4 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 104 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

sansceriph wrote:
I have been in the same position. But it’s better to start a post about it than to interrupt someone else’s. We were heavily trolled by members of another site that used to be owned by the company that owns this one (until recently), and I couldn’t find mod for several hours. It happens far less now. But multiple reports actually slows down the process.

When we find a troll a few of us have agreed to report it and then write reported on the post. It stops too many people placing the same report.

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 7 minutes after post)

simone wrote:
When we find a troll a few of us have agreed to report it and then write reported on the post. It stops too many people placing the same report.

You mean up at the top, by editing the post?

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smoogie. offline Verified User (4 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 104 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 9 minutes after post)

No I would never edit a post. We just send a reply.

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smoogie. offline Verified User (4 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 104 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 9 minutes after post)

REPORTED

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 11 minutes after post)

that’s always good

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►Shizuko-Sophie◄ offline Verified User (9 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 129 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 13 minutes after post)

the more reports the more likely the action. Different mods have different opinions…..some will act some will let it pass…..the more reports then the more likely one will act.

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 37 minutes after post)

Ken recently asked me just to make one report per offender, even if I spot ‘em on another post … and I think that’s in the TOS or whatever too.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 37 minutes after post)

Well, I give up. I have been taken in twice tonight. I have just spent half an hour (with sansceriph I might add) trying to help, what I thought was a desperate person, who turned out to be someone who was deliberately trying to offend everyone to get themselves banned.

What a waste of my time. What have I actually achieved this evening? Nothing!

I spent hours tring to sort out a scammer, only to be sucked into their post, then spent the rest of the evening trying to help the suicdal post who was trying to involve us all in his banning.

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (8 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 64 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 38 minutes after post)

Anubis wrote:
Yeah, thanks sansceriph, you were the only person who really took me seriously and jumped in to help.

And then I got told off for interrupting the ‘are helpers getting lazy post’. Felt it was ironic to tell you the truth. All the helpers were there whilst the scammers were on the loose! :)

Im sorry you felt my post was stupid, I however was nothing but polite to you and understood your urgency and said nothing unkind to you, anywhere. I can not help something else was going on at the same time. I acccepted your apology and come here to see you slandering me. Nice, and thank you. I just wanted to help others realize, appreciation can go a long ways, much like manners.

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 39 minutes after post)

Wait, Anubis can’t be talking about YOU, 2greeneyes!

I think things are getting all twisted up here.

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (8 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 64 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 43 minutes after post)

Perhaps,
I was very nice and let him speak all over my post. I understood he was trying to get attention for everyone. He was trying to stop hustlers.
Hope it was stopped and I thanked him for his time at it. I know it can be very frustrating seeing the hurters out there.

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 49 minutes after post)

I think he was already upset, and it didn’t quite fit on your post. But I don’t think he was referring to you here above.

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Anubis offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 99 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 57 minutes after post)

florie wrote:
I think he was already upset, and it didn’t quite fit on your post. But I don’t think he was referring to you here above.

I wasn’t, 2greeneyes is ok by my book. It was the situation that was at fault not 2greeneyes.

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (8 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 64 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2 hours, 18 minutes after post)

Understood Anubis,
Thank you for explaining.
Florie, thank you for intervening so nicely. I am not about war. I apprieciate tact and kindness.

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2 hours, 32 minutes after post)

thank you for thanking us :)

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Florie online Verified User (8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 107 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2 hours, 33 minutes after post)

good night, all :)

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2greeneyes offline Verified User (8 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 64 #
Midvale, UT, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2 hours, 53 minutes after post)

Night Florie,
Sleep well.