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If your mean to them maybe they’ll stop smoking and live longer. Umm… What exactly do you want help with? Perchance you smoke?

Tobacco companies have their souls anchored :-(. They used them for money by selling this addicting product. Poor people. Poor people.

just some opinions

I haven’t smoke in my life

No, I hate smokers. My uncle smokes, I get on to him about it all the time. Sometimes I get pretty mean with it. He stopped for 2 months because of me

Everybody dies. Might as well have a little object in your life that gives you pleasure and calms you down.

There is no suspense in life when you know how you are going to die..agree?

It’s foolish. It speeds your death. The energy boost from nicotine only lasts 30 minutes. It causes suffing, and makes you want to die.

The currency worth of each box of cigarettes in a smokers life could buy them a very nice coffin

sad but true..how else a person can get pleasure apart from smoking?..

Amen, Radio.

And actually, I’ve known quite a few people who smoke in their 90’s. So the theory doesn’t pan out so well there.

The statistics that smoking causes shortage of life is only via that….statistics. Sure, smoking is bad for your health and can cause a number of issues, but there’s also healthy people who don’t smoke and get struck down with lung cancer or heart attacks too.

I’m a smoker myself, and have been since my stupid years. (teenage years - no offense to any teens here, they were just my personal stupid years) Do I regret starting? Yes, absolutely. But I tell you one thing that’s scarier than smoking being the cause of an early life. The fact that just after I turned 18 I had my life threatened by Leukemia. A completely non-related cancer to smoking.

I may shorten my life if I fail in attempts to quit. But to me, there is things a hell of a lot worse I could die from.

Or I could forget to look both ways crossing the road and get faceplanted by a truck.
Smoking’s bad for you, but hey, 90% of the food we eat is bad for us, the TV we watch is bad for our eyes and minds, etc.
I smoke too, and of course I’m not happy about it, but I don’t feel I deserve to be looked down upon for it.

very sad to know about it skye

Exactly, Radio. That was my point. There are worse things. Besides, I don’t smoke around people who don’t do the same, so I’m not harming anyone but myself. You should see me in public around children. I’ll run 10 feet away and hide it. My mother gets considerably annoyed with that.

There’s a lot of worse deaths I could list I’d rather avoid. Like Leukemia again, a plane crash, or spontatneous combustion. To be honest, death itself scares me, because while I have views on God and heaven…there’s a part of me that isn’t really sure if that’s what’s waiting. Death is unavoidable either way, whether early or later in life. It’s the WAY I die I would like to choose. If I pass away by doing something that calms me (and controls my panic attacks) and that I enjoy (for now - when I stop enjoying it, I’ve promised to myself I’ll quit) then I’d rather that than burning alive, drowning, or feeling my bones crumble to dust.

And like Radio said again. Smokers are not happy that they smoke, (if we could stop immediately, we would, but it’s certainly not that easy) people may not agree with it, but that doesn’t make us bad people. I don’t smoke weed myself, but I don’t think any less of those who do it, either. As long as they don’t do it around me. I respect those who don’t smoke, and I respect those who wish me to not smoke around them. Same with people who use cannibus. :) It’s a two way street of respect, really.

I’m sorry, Devil. I didn’t mean to get on a soapbox or anything. I just wanted to share a different point of view.

Yes you have a point. But there are much better alternatives to relieve pain. Yes, death is unavoidable, but smoking will make the path to death much more painful. The way you explain it makes life seem all happy until the day you die. Smoking actively WILL make you suffer.

Death is inevitable, everyone knows that and its a human nature of justifying something which is incorrect

Yes, perhaps. And believe me, life is not all happy until the day I die, I can vouch for that. I won’t be smoking the rest of my life, I know that. It’ll come to an end when it does.

But I can at least say I ASKED to suffer. It’s not just thrust upon me without my consent or allowance. I’m not hurting anyone else, there are some smokers who are selfish about it, but I’m not. So I don’t see how my choices, make me a bad person to other people, or that I need to be felt pity for just because of it.

Skye wrote:
Yes, perhaps. And believe me, life is not all happy until the day I die, I can vouch for that. I won’t be smoking the rest of my life, I know that. It’ll come to an end when it does.

But I can at least say I ASKED to suffer. It’s not just thrust upon me without my consent or allowance. I’m not hurting anyone else, there are some smokers who are selfish about it, but I’m not. So I don’t see how my choices, make me a bad person to other people, or that I need to be felt pity for just because of it.

Please tell me why you started smoking

I said I would never get with a smoker after having a childhood where my mother would continually chain smoke (Im talking proper chainsmoking here - continually even when in the bath or while she was standing over a pan cooking…) But here I am with a guy who smokes 50 a day, guess you can’t choose who you fall for huh? Either that or I’m addicted to passive smoking…

This website has a way of opening my eyes everyday, Devil. :) I have been here for almost a year and I still find inspiration and hope. This site gives me a new way to look at the world.

I used to be extremely bitter about people, it’s very rare to find such a place where people come to help others with no personal gain, and nothing expected. I haven’t found that many people like it in real life. That’s not to say I don’t know anyone, they’re just rare to come across. But this site allows those types of people to be in one place, and I’ve met some amazing people here, and learnt so much. :) That’s my eye-opener.

Yes, it does give comfort in some manner, its ironic to knoe that we are all strangers but helping each other for a good cause

Yea, I agree

Alhanalem wrote:

Skye wrote:
Yes, perhaps. And believe me, life is not all happy until the day I die, I can vouch for that. I won’t be smoking the rest of my life, I know that. It’ll come to an end when it does.But I can at least say I ASKED to suffer. It’s not just thrust upon me without my consent or allowance. I’m not hurting anyone else, there are some smokers who are selfish about it, but I’m not. So I don’t see how my choices, make me a bad person to other people, or that I need to be felt pity for just because of it.

Please tell me why you started smoking

I started when I was 14. I didn’t have a very happy environment growing up, I spent the majority visiting my parents in psychiatric wards and being thrown from foster home to the next. My parents were both smokers, and studies show (though I’m still skeptical) that a child who has grown up in a family with both parents who are smokers, are 10% more likely to smoke. (Unless of course, it’s my step-dad who is like the anti-christ of smoking…he hates it. My mother has since quit 4 weeks ago.)

I started mainly because I wanted to. I was curious to try it, so I did, and I found out that I enjoyed it and continued. No peer pressure, not because it looked “cool” (Although I wasn’t really liked by many of my peers anyway) or anything of that nature, I just enjoyed it. Not even my parents knew I was smoking until I was 16 and I told them. My step-dad once, when I was 12, made a contract with me that if I didn’t smoke, on my 18th birthday, he would give me 200 dollars (to a 12-year-old in a poor family, it was a lot. LOL, now I get twice as much every week) and he was disapointed when I told him. As any normal parent would. My mom, didn’t care (she’s not the epitome of normal. LOL)

When I got pregnant, I stopped, and I never smoked around my daughter after she was born. I promised her, myself, and others when I stop enjoying it, I’ll quit. That day is coming close, though. So I won’t be smoking for much longer. LOL. I owe it to a lot of people to keep that promise too. Excluding myself, but mainly my daughter.

Devil_on_Earth wrote:
It brings out the corny side in everybody :D. We all have a ton of love in our hearts and this site proves it.

Actually, I’m the same on here as I am offline. LOL. I just talk a lot less unless it’s something I’m passionate about. And I have a few more blonde moments. But just as corny, if not more.

Bad idea, Som. LOL. Switching one to the other just doesn’t work. If you need to encourage anything, encourage them to quit, and support them through it.

Som wrote:
no actually it is a really good idea, they get to smoke something, to wean them selfs off, then you wean them off the cannabis with weaker and weaker cannabis.

if done this trick for dozens of people, i have only had one relapse to tobacco

Well, if that theory works, then you’re doing a good thing, I guess. I’m just a bitter person against weed. It caused me more problems than my cigarette smoking. LOL. Though, if people who do smoke it, enjoy it, then that’s fine. I just advise people to be extremely careful with it.

Cannibus.

I’d much rather physical pain than mental and emotional. For a number of reasons. Mental and emotional pain don’t heal fully. Physical pain at least stops hurting after a while.

I lost almost my entire life from smoking marijuana. I’m still trying to piece it back together after six years, and I only smoked it for 4 months.

I ended up in hospital (both medical and psychiatric) many times from numereous psychotic episodes. I’ve had panic attacks at least twice a week, and extreme paranoia (I can’t even speak the word “paranoia” out loud.) and have phobias of almost everything. I can’t even walk to the corner store half the time.

When I gave it up completely, I had to move away from my daughter who was in care with a “friend” at the time. She was murdered a few weeks later. I still have nightmares about the episodes, and I occasionally even get paranoid about taking paracetemol for a headache, or when my arthritis plays up in my feet. If I have a panic attack, just the idea that I’m having cigarette calms me. I know medically it’s just a mental thing saying it works, because physically, it doesn’t, but for me it seems to work. I have a cigarette, and my panic attack goes away. Everything else, just makes it worse.

I’ve lost friends through it, I lost my kids, and I’ve at times, lost my mind. I have friends that smoke it, and even family members and it doesn’t bother me. As long as I don’t actually see them smoking it (I start thinking I’m breathing it in) it’s fine. Most of the time, anyway. My father frightened me a few months ago when he smoked a joint outside and I was still inside. I had to be driven home at midnight from a major panic attack.

I’ll probably be okay in a few years, once the memories pass, if they do. I’m regaining a little bit more of myself back as time goes on, so we’ll see. It’s just a touchy subject with me when people try to advise others to start smoking it. Which really, I feel like such a hypocrite right now with being a smoker. But then, I’d advise others never to start eiher, or quit.

i see

any opinions?

Look up “Jeanne Louise Calment” the oldest person to ever live (documented). A lifelong smoker by the way! She was not the only one. Most of the oldest living people on earth were “smokers”. Many countries with longer life spans than United States have majority population of smokers. We should try to find out why! It appears that moderate smoking is beneficial to some.