haha well if we do have one im definatly fighting in it!
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The Democratic Congress has had very little time to get anything done, not to mention that have had to deal with the Bush Administration. Actually, most Democrats are excited at the prospect of Obama, not angry. It is the republicans who have to settle for the mediocre McCain. My revolution with happen in November when I get to vote Obama in and say goodbye to Bush!
I don’t believe that Obama & McCain are nearly tied. I think that’s “misinformation.”
florie wrote:
I don’t believe that Obama & McCain are nearly tied. I think that’s “misinformation.”
Obama is up by six point consistenly over the last few weeks, so statistically that is not a tie.
Obama is projected to get at least 320 electoral votes. Do you want to change our form of government? I like democracy because you dont need to destroy it to change the country. I could see a political revolution happening, If Ross Perot did not pull out of the race when he was ahead it could have all ready happened.
florie wrote:
I don’t believe that Obama & McCain are nearly tied. I think that’s “misinformation.”
No that is in correct, all polling places are showing the same information. They are all independent of each other, some are liberal some are conservative and some just do their job. Obama & McCain are statistically tied. This is fact, not “misinformation”
florie wrote:
I don’t believe that Obama & McCain are nearly tied. I think that’s “misinformation.”
No that is in correct, all polling places are showing the same information. They are all independent of each other, some are liberal some are conservative and some just do their job. Obama & McCain are statistically tied. This is fact, not “misinformation”
Maximina wrote:
florie wrote:
I don’t believe that Obama & McCain are nearly tied. I think that’s “misinformation.”
Obama is up by six point consistenly over the last few weeks, so statistically that is not a tie.
Even at 6%, Depending on the samlping rate, the margen of error bring them to a close tie.
maxbrockman wrote:
Obama is projected to get at least 320 electoral votes. Do you want to change our form of government? I like democracy because you dont need to destroy it to change the country. I could see a political revolution happening, If Ross Perot did not pull out of the race when he was ahead it could have all ready happened.
Unfortuntly I do not think we are living in a healthy democracy. So while I would prefear a political revolution I dont see it happening. Ross Perot would not have won, thats why he pulled out. and thats why it wont happen.
maxbrockman wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/… that Obama already has over 270 and not all of the states are polled.
Please forgive me, I did not intend this post to be about which side is better, but about the government as a whole. But to help with that point, the same mapping showed that Kerry was to win the presidency in 2004. Both candidates are to close to make such determinations and the point I was making is that the current unrest is not party driven because each party has their bass and it has not left them. The unhappiness is not party driven it has to be the government as a whole that people are disappointed in.
Da⌐11 wrote:
maxbrockman wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/… that Obama already has over 270 and not all of the states are polled.
Please forgive me, I did not intend this post to be about which side is better, but about the government as a whole. But to help with that point, the same mapping showed that Kerry was to win the presidency in 2004. Both candidates are to close to make such determinations and the point I was making is that the current unrest is not party driven because each party has their bass and it has not left them. The unhappiness is not party driven it has to be the government as a whole that people are disappointed in.
Yes, it is a little early to call a winner. I understand you point about the country being unhappy, but the ones who support Obama feel that he is the revolution. The one’s who don’t support him are either firm conservatives or are afraid of something. You even admitted to being somewhat afraid of hime turning out to be not what he promises. He is the best hope for our country. McCain is not a great leader, so what if people have heard his name, he is a consistent flip flopper with a BAD temper. As far as a revolution, the truth is as bad as we think we have it, we still as a whole live a very lavish lifestyle compared to most of the world. We still have enough money to produce significant amount of more garbage than any other nation. Yes, things need to change else we will continue to plumet, but we are far from deprived and needing to overthrow our government. We have the power to overthrow in November, just as we did four years ago when a majority decided it was safer to stick with the status quote. As we all know this was a HUGE mistake!!!!
My problem on this particular issue is not my problems with Obama. If I am wrong about Obama and he is a great president; I do not see him having the ability to change the government like he says he wants to. It is to big a problem for one man to fix, even a great man. Congress is so corrupt that they will pummel Obama if he tries to upset their party. Even Obama says he knows this. I originally liked him because even this being true I wanted a president who would go to the mat for people no matter the out come. Hope was better then nothing. But again even if Obama is the man he says he is, its far from a sure thing that Washington will change. There for Obama winning the presidency is no revolution no matter what kind of many he is, if he is a good man it may be the beginning of a long a hard journey; but it is more likely that this man will be squashed.
Congress is run by corporations, lobbyists and unions, neither party is better then the other and this problem did not start when Bush took office 7 years ago. A Democratic congress under Obama will change the polices set up by Bush, but they wont fix the corruption, the earmarks, the pork, the unethical behavior. The Democrat run congress wants all of that to continue, and if Obama is not with them (and I hope he is not) he will have a battle on his hands.
I agree that Washington is a huge institution run by many corrupt people who are only out to obtain more power and put money in there pockets. Can Obama get rid of all the corruption, doubtful, but he will enact some policies and make some changes in the right direction. How much change can he make in eight years or with limited power, I hope we get to find out, but at least he has the right ideals and some plans to make positive changes. With McCain everything will stay the same and I am certain that the economy will get worse and our foreign policies will continue to encourage more poor and angry Muslims to become terrorist. I think that the difference between Obama and McCain can be the difference between heading towards peace and creating more and more terrorists.
Clinton became president when I was 18, so my adulthood has been eight years of Clinton and eight years of Bush, and there is no doubt that the Clinton years were far more comfortable, peaceful, and prosperous than the Bush years. Now Obama is not Bill Clinton, but I have not lived in a time when prosperity was under the leadership of a Republican President. Obama in my eyes is better than Clinton, but one thing they have in common is there ability to charm, which is an underrated characteristic, but essential to world peace.
I have many doubts that the Clinton years were far more comfortable peaceful, and prosperous than the Bush years. I in fact don’t see a divide at all between the last 15 years. Under both Clinton and Bush the Economy has waxed and waned, and our national security was allowed to flutter. Clinton had his tech bubble that lost people their retirements, and Bush had his credit bubble that lost people their houses (some of the same people unfortunately). Education has only gotten progressively worse, and congressional corruption worse. One of the things I did like about Obama was his approach to not parsing the Clinton years.
McCain vs Obama will be determined on if they cheat for the third time
with the voting machines.
spiratec9 wrote:
McCain vs Obama will be determined on if they cheat for the third time
with the voting machines.
Who the democrats?
Da⌐11 wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:
McCain vs Obama will be determined on if they cheat for the third time
with the voting machines.
Who the democrats?
Oh yes, of course!!
florie wrote:
Da⌐11 wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:
McCain vs Obama will be determined on if they cheat for the third time
with the voting machines.
Who the democrats?
Oh yes, of course!!
I don’t agree, the amount of fraud conducted by both parties in the last two elections is nothing new and was not material.
I’d like to see the American people invading oil company and tobacco company offices and dragging the CEOs out into the street for a good ol’ tarring and feathering. I’d like to see Congressional representatives who take bribes strung up by their heels, and left to twist in the wind for about a week. I’d like to see the bankers who caused the current credit crisis and the health insurance CEOs who have fought universal health coverage all locked up in an abandoned coal mine for about 10 years. We DO need another American Revolution, this time to get the corrupt officials out of our own government. Compared to what we’ve got now, King George the Third was a saint!
Da⌐11 wrote:
florie wrote:
Da⌐11 wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:
McCain vs Obama will be determined on if they cheat for the third time
with the voting machines.
Who the democrats?
Oh yes, of course!!
I don’t agree, the amount of fraud conducted by both parties in the last two elections is nothing new and was not material.
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A revolution is an intriguing idea. There is so much mishandling of money in government and no accountability.
Why haven’t we drilled for oil already?
Why is solar and wind power a requirement for every new home built?
Why doesn’t every American have catastrophic health insurance?
Why is there any unemployment in America?
Why are “illegal” anything allowed?
Why haven’t Obama/McCain already solved these existing problems as the have been part of government.
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Anonymous wrote:
i would go for mcain, not because of his policies or any of that, but because he is white, and a vietnam vet.
So, you’re white, and you want someone who looks like you, no matter what his beliefs or standards, and just as long as he was in vietnam?
Anonymous wrote:
Now im not trying to be racist. It’s just that most blacks today already think they are the greatest things in the world and they cause trouble for everyone. i have had a personal experience with this.
Hmm, “most blacks” – I’m wondering just how many black people you know personally, and what statistics you might be citing. Do your sources say that 80% of black people are “uppity?” 90 percent? 60 percent? Troublemakers, are they?
Actually, this way of thinking is what most people mean by “racist.”
Anonymous wrote:
If Obama wins,then the blacks will think that they rule the country and will have even less care for the laws.
I get the feeling that you don’t have much experience in the world, but that you may have been spending a lot of time with Rush Limbaugh … You probably have never actually known an actual black person.
Anonymous wrote:
If Mcain wins it will be just bout the same as Bush, and im fine with that. Call it fear or whatever but it’s a fear that i know is common.
I would call it racism and ignorance. And maybe some fear too.
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As a staunch Libertarian/Democrat, I know this: if the McCain/Palin duo is elected, I will 1) Seriously consider moving to another country…America would not be “America” to me anymore…and 2) I would fantasize about a humongous crowd of politically aware, angry people revolting against current government. It would be beautiful and a statement to the world that not all US citizens are ignorant, uneducated dumb***es.
obama will win hands down.If and only if the repulicans don’t cheat again
using voting machines.
virgin_queen wrote:
As a staunch Libertarian/Democrat, I know this: if the McCain/Palin duo is elected, I will 1) Seriously consider moving to another country…America would not be “America” to me anymore…and 2) I would fantasize about a humongous crowd of politically aware, angry people revolting against current government. It would be beautiful and a statement to the world that not all US citizens are ignorant, uneducated dumb***es.
your welcome to move to Canada we like democrats.
virgin_queen wrote:
As a staunch Libertarian/Democrat, I know this: if the McCain/Palin duo is elected, I will 1) Seriously consider moving to another country…America would not be “America” to me anymore…and 2) I would fantasize about a humongous crowd of politically aware, angry people revolting against current government. It would be beautiful and a statement to the world that not all US citizens are ignorant, uneducated dumb***es.
It’s funny how many times I’ve heard the “I’m going to Seriously consider moving to another country if the candidate I support doesn’t win” cry baby mantra throughout the years. The funniest part is most people never move; they just reiterate the mantra in the next election cycle.
I also find it rather ignorant for people to stereotypically call a whole group of people names simply because they hold a different opinion then you do. I find it to also be quite humorous to hear this from a self proclaimed libertarian; kind of makes me wonder if you know what a libertarian really is.
I’ve moved to Canada. I will probably vote Conservative after becoming a citizen. Here in Toronto the Jamaica drug gangs are shooting people left and right, and the Liberal/NDP response is to disarm lawabiding Canadian citizens. Somehow I must have missed how THEY are the problem instead of the Jamaican gang members.
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