matter help: Quantum theory’s predictions really aren’t that bizarre, you know. - Help.com

Very interesting. The probibility is lower as the object gets bigger because it has a higher chance with much more matter to hit a bar.

Because the object is very large, the probiblity goes to zero, because its so big it cant fit though the bars. Laws of phisics, unfortunatly.

Very interesting though, Have you thought of going to college for this?

Haha, thanks; actually, I am at University studying quanta. The object’s probability doesn’t actually go to zero. It appears to, but the probability actually remains, it just gets extremely small. Hence quantum tunneling. Unfortunately, for large objects, because they’re so complex (made up of so many particles) the odds for every single particle to tunnel through the bars (which are also very complex) at the same time are phenomenally small, but theoretically it would happen if I threw it the same way long enough (of course, I’d have to be throwing it for many, many years; longer than the universe has been around, at least).

It happens all the time to electrons; they tunnel through “solid” barriers - that’s the basis for our transistor technology.

I was just sitting here thinking about it and thought that the fruit-bars analogy was an interesting one, if I ever go into teaching…

I am so confused… :S

What bars are you all talking about??

Awsome! Im just a stay at home mom with a GED. lol! But cool! I didnt know that electrons did that! Hmmm. Interesting that the probiblity doesnt go to zero. but stays there?

I have to ask. Whats your point?

He wants to know, why even though the probiblity of an object larger than the bars is extreamly low, why it still cant go though them.

What bars!?!? And they cant go through them because they are larger

Okay. You have a window in front of you. There are bars on it, like a jail. You have…. lets say a bowling ball, the probiblity of the ball going through the bars is extreamly low, but its still there, meaning there is a chance it would go though, but the bars are still there, so Quantum Tunneling, when the ball will go though the bars insted around them, should exist.

Well you could pull the bars apart somehow so the ball could go through while the bars are still there… But this is retarded which is why i dont like stuff like this. Life is too complicated as it is to try to find more complicated things that are no meaning in life whatsoever

The bars - the burglar proofing bars I first wrote about (first post). Da-11, don’t be a hater! Haha, there’s no point really. It’s just a free forum to write in and share thoughts.

Washu, yeah! It’s pretty interesting. We already know a large object won’t go through something solid simply because the probability is so low it just isn’t feasible. But the point is - it CAN! Again, it won’t. But it can!

Yes! There you go. Things “tunnel” (ie go straight through one another) all the time inside the atom. Our modern electronics and communications are all based on this idea. It’s just fascinating - it works perfectly on the scale of things that are very small. It just can’t work on very big scales (like a bowling ball, Washu!) because big things are made up of zillions upon zillions of particles - so each of those particles (which, on their own have a fair chance of tunneling) have to all tunnel at the same time. It’s a bit like flipping a coin zillions of times and expecting the same result each time - the chance of that happening is very low, but it could happen, no? Of course, flipping a coin is 50% probability, but in this case, for particles, the probability depends on certain conditions. But you get the idea?

Its not stupid! Its rather interesting.

Anon, that’s a silly thing to say - these ideas have EVERYTHING to do with life. Without it, you’d have no computer to write on, no cellular to call friends on, no stereo to listen to the radio… the list goes on.

SparkyJones wrote:
Da-11, don’t be a hater! Haha, there’s no point really.

Ok :)

I like those things. So this is interesting. :D Makes me think! :D

Oh well i guess but i hate physical science, physics, and chemistry with a PASSION so thats probably why i think its pointless. Maybe if i understood them or had teachers who explained them better i wouldve liked them more but they su*ked and i was happy when those terms of highschool were over

I never had this in high school. and Im a GED welding drop out, so…. yea. I just think its kinda cool. :D

Man, I hate chemistry too, don’t worry. In high school they never did the really interesting stuff. The boring stuff’s important too though…

♫Washu★ wrote:
I never had this in high school. and Im a GED welding drop out, so…. yea. I just think its kinda cool. :D

I graduated and am in college now (yea i know im slow for not understand science but hey its a hard subject lol) and you know more than i do about this stuff. And you are excited about it. Maybe you should go back to school and take a class on quanta.

Anonymous wrote:
Man, I hate chemistry too, don’t worry. In high school they never did the really interesting stuff. The boring stuff’s important too though…

Yea i use to get in trouble because i would either be talking to friends or sleeping during lectures lol. Is it better in college? I took biology in college but i liked it better in highschool and i learned more (my bio teacher was great and made it interesting. My college prof. was a different story)

Yeah Washu! Maybe you should! You could do it online or something. No, Chemistry is no better. I am studying mechanical engineering and I had to take two chemistry courses and it still irritates me. I had an amazing lecturer though, so I was lucky he got me through it. I’ve never taken a proper bio course… I should try to.

Yes you should try. Its not really that hard. Bio imo is way easier than chemistry. Im still trying to figure out what i want to do/study. Im a business major but im not enjoying my college experience because im not passionate about it at all, which causes me to stress. At least you know what you want to do/be in life.

Ok im starting to rant. Ill leave you alone LOL

Nahh, I gots me a little one, so it would be rather hard to do that. That and too much makes me tired. :D