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i dont see how that implied in any way how barack is the anti-christ. i like the guy fine, but he doesnt have enough experience to be president. hes only served 1 term as a senator, and now hes going out for prez? wow. i wont vote for him this time, but if he were to stay a senator for another 4 years and run next term, i would definitely vote for the guy. as it stands, he just doesnt have enough experience at the moment.
ThatGuyYouUsedToKnow wrote: gtfo, all you obama obsessed leftists have no sense of humor.
Isn’t it enough for you that McCain has put out this ad that all the bubbas of the world will think is really keen? Do you have to insult his supporters as well??!!
ThatGuyYouUsedToKnow wrote: gtfo, all you obama obsessed leftists have no sense of humor.
Isn’t it enough for you that McCain has put out this ad that all the bubbas of the world will think is really keen? Do you have to insult his supporters as well??!!
Who gives two f**ks if he’s the Anti Christ? Or a Communist? Most people who accuse him of that don’t know what Communism *is*. And with the Anti-Christ… the world could do with less religion (though I do not support targeting any single one).
i know what communism is. i just cant see someone who sat in reverend rites church as president. and i quote “GOD **** AMERICA!”. we’ve all heard the sound bytes…
i know what communism is. i just cant see someone who sat in reverend rites church as president. and i quote “GOD **** AMERICA!”. we’ve all heard the sound bytes…
I don’t think it is reasonable to blame someone because they attend a church whose reverend is crazy. Besides, Obama quit. However, it is more reasonable to blame a candidate who has an adviser who participated in the Watergate scandal and did time… McCain.
i know what communism is. i just cant see someone who sat in reverend rites church as president. and i quote “GOD **** AMERICA!”. we’ve all heard the sound bytes…
I don’t think it is reasonable to blame someone because they attend a church whose reverend is crazy. Besides, Obama quit. However, it is more reasonable to blame a candidate who has an adviser who participated in the Watergate scandal and did time… McCain.
true. but obama has never comanded an army, which i think is important. i think we need to drill for oil. and obama sat in reverend rites church for over 20 years, has had rite teach is children, and had rite as part of his campaign until the he realized that he couldnt win the presidency with the white-hating ba$tard as part of his campaign. you cant possibly say that after sitting in a church listening to this guy, that some of rites ideas didnt rub off on obama. AND obama was raised to be islamic. the islamic people are supposed to kill you if you convert from islam to another religion. therefore, why would we want a president who already has a religious issue with the majority of the people we are fighting?
bluflames 83 wrote:
the islamic people are supposed to kill you if you convert from islam to another religion.
Another example of ignorance. that is not what Islam says. And Obama is a Christian.
bluflames 83 wrote:
it was proben that obama staged people fainting from his amazing words at his speeches….
There is no proof that that was staged.
bluflames 83 wrote:
that some of rites ideas didnt rub off on obama.
I don’t think that anyone with Obama’s maturity would listen to that man. I’ve been raised in a theist family for a good number of years, but I don’t buy anything they’re selling me.
McCain’s policies are terrible - he wants to ban abortions, which would mean that they’d happen illegally and unprofessionally in basements, with tools such as hangers, and he also wants to ban gay marriage, which is against the Constitution; America is a secular state. What happened to “Liberty and justice for all?” He also wants to keep troops in Iraq for up to another 100 years. Haven’t we done enough damage already? We kill over 600,000 Iraqis and 4,000 Americans, and we want to stay in *longer*!? What, does that man want to rid Iraq of people!? I understand that the situation must be taken slowly, but 100 years? I’ve seen that speech; he was *NOT* exaggerating. Also, he wants to lessen gun control, after stuff like NIU and the VT Massacre. Great. People shoot up their school, and what do we do? allow *more* gun freedom.
Plus, I mentioned the Watergate thing, the only thing you said was “true.” Seems to me like you’re avoiding the subject. You say that Obama may have been affected by Rev. Wright. OK. McCain couldn’t have been affected by this guy? I mean, he’s one of his close personal advisers! Some stuff could have “rubbed off” on McCain, too.
All in all, Obama is a far better candidate. True, he may not have the experience, but experience should not be the deciding factor with the major issues.
if experience is not the issue, i should be president. so what if ive never lead anyone more than a football team?? experience doesnt matter….anyway, at this point i dont really want to argue with you because i think that arguing is kind of stupid. why should we argue? we could spend our time trying to solve hunger or something. honestly, through all of that, i had never endorsed mccain, as i dont think there are any truly stand-out candidates in the election, so its just about choosing the candidate who will do the least damage. and yes, i do believe that obama staged the people fainting. and i also think that obama USED TO BE a muslim, but then converted to christianity. i really hope that you werent getting worked up arguing with a 14 year old if you’re much older and involved than me :D . anyway, nice to see other peoples opinions.
bluflames83 wrote: if experience is not the issue, i should be president. so what if ive never lead anyone more than a football team?? experience doesnt matter….anyway, at this point i dont really want to argue with you because i think that arguing is kind of stupid. why should we argue? we could spend our time trying to solve hunger or something. honestly, through all of that, i had never endorsed mccain, as i dont think there are any truly stand-out candidates in the election, so its just about choosing the candidate who will do the least damage. and yes, i do believe that obama staged the people fainting. and i also think that obama USED TO BE a muslim, but then converted to christianity. i really hope that you werent getting worked up arguing with a 14 year old if you’re much older and involved than me :D . anyway, nice to see other peoples opinions.
lol It’s OK. I wasn’t getting “worked up” or anything. I’m not saying that experience is COMPLETELY unimportant, but Obama is smart, has a stand on the issues, and has some experience. And Obama was never a Muslim.
Commander Ikari wrote: Even if Obama had been a Muslim, why would that matter?
the united states happens to be fighting the war on terror, from when islamic terrorists flew airplanes into the world trade centers? we are at war with islamic countries, therefore i would be cautious before electing a president who may have been the same religion as the people we are fighting. (saying “may have” simply because i dont have sources on obamas religious past)
Commander Ikari wrote: Even if Obama had been a Muslim, why would that matter?
the united states happens to be fighting the war on terror, from when islamic terrorists flew airplanes into the world trade centers? we are at war with islamic countries, therefore i would be cautious before electing a president who may have been the same religion as the people we are fighting. (saying “may have” simply because i dont have sources on obamas religious past)
So, if we were fighting a christian nation, we shouldn’t elect Christians?
Commander Ikari wrote: Even if Obama had been a Muslim, why would that matter?
the united states happens to be fighting the war on terror, from when islamic terrorists flew airplanes into the world trade centers? we are at war with islamic countries, therefore i would be cautious before electing a president who may have been the same religion as the people we are fighting. (saying “may have” simply because i dont have sources on obamas religious past)
So, if we were fighting a christian nation, we shouldn’t elect Christians?
i would certainly be cautious about the motives of any potential president who shared beliefs with our enemy, yes. however, being catholic, i would be less concerned with a christian candidate if we were fighting christians, if im being honest.
bluflames83 wrote: if experience is not the issue, i should be president. so what if ive never lead anyone more than a football team?? experience doesnt matter….anyway, at this point i dont really want to argue with you because i think that arguing is kind of stupid. why should we argue? we could spend our time trying to solve hunger or something. honestly, through all of that, i had never endorsed mccain, as i dont think there are any truly stand-out candidates in the election, so its just about choosing the candidate who will do the least damage. and yes, i do believe that obama staged the people fainting. and i also think that obama USED TO BE a muslim, but then converted to christianity. i really hope that you werent getting worked up arguing with a 14 year old if you’re much older and involved than me :D . anyway, nice to see other peoples opinions.
14 or not, why do you “believe” Obama staged some people fainting (???) or “used to be a muslim.” There are facts about this – shouldn’t you go with the facts?
i know what communism is. i just cant see someone who sat in reverend rites church as president. and i quote “GOD **** AMERICA!”. we’ve all heard the sound bytes…
I don’t think it is reasonable to blame someone because they attend a church whose reverend is crazy. Besides, Obama quit. However, it is more reasonable to blame a candidate who has an adviser who participated in the Watergate scandal and did time… McCain.
true. but obama has never comanded an army, which i think is important. i think we need to drill for oil. and obama sat in reverend rites church for over 20 years, has had rite teach is children, and had rite as part of his campaign until the he realized that he couldnt win the presidency with the white-hating ba$tard as part of his campaign. you cant possibly say that after sitting in a church listening to this guy, that some of rites ideas didnt rub off on obama. AND obama was raised to be islamic. the islamic people are supposed to kill you if you convert from islam to another religion. therefore, why would we want a president who already has a religious issue with the majority of the people we are fighting?
Take it easy here. You’re exaggerating for effect, and getting all worked up over stuff you don’t really know about, if you don’t mind my saying so …
im not getting worked up, florie. you’re quoting me from comments i made before i said that i was done arguing. i “believe” that obama staged people fainting and that he used to be islamic because whether it was true or not, i heard it on republican radio shows. i also heard that obama used to be a street level drug dealer and about this video, which i found later.
Everything on republican radio shows is fact. Give me a fricken break. Obama was never Muslim. The fact that you keep saying he is shows your ignorance. Sorry, but you can state over and over that the sky is made of gold, but it does not make it so. All evidence shows that Obama was never a Muslim. I am not surprised that you are getting your facts from crazy radical conservatives. Some crazy radical conservatives are just as bad as radical Muslims. Have you ever heard of Timothy McVey? He was a radical Christian with many conservative ideas and a decorated veteran at that. He was also a terrorist. See not all terrorist are Muslim. Open your mind and do some real research before you go spitting out ignorant statements.
where do you get your information if not the radio? and the guy in the video i linked to submitted to a polygraph test. im goign to point out again that i dont think there are any good candidates in the election and that i dont want to argue about this. however, i feel as though i need to defend myself at this point as i feel somewhat attacked at this point.
maximina: did i say there werent christian terrorists? i said that we are currently at war with islamic terrorists who flew airplanes into the world trade centers. i acknowledge that there are christian terrorists. im not trying to make this a religious battle. as i have stated twice, id really rather not argue, but im being attacked.
bluflames83 wrote: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/is_b… of obamas fake fainting^^http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/217455,CST-NWS-fals19.article ^^he doesnt know if hes evangelical or not^^where do you get your information if not the radio? and the guy in the video i linked to submitted to a polygraph test. im goign to point out again that i dont think there are any good candidates in the election and that i dont want to argue about this. however, i feel as though i need to defend myself at this point as i feel somewhat attacked at this point.maximina: did i say there werent christian terrorists? i said that we are currently at war with islamic terrorists who flew airplanes into the world trade centers. i acknowledge that there are christian terrorists. im not trying to make this a religious battle. as i have stated twice, id really rather not argue, but im being attacked.
How can you judge a candidate by such silly issues such as fainting when there are more serious issues to consider?
im sorry, i forgot to pay proper respect in recognizing
Senator Barack HUSSEIN Obama II
i couldnt help that one..
vilen: the point is that barack hussein obama is lying about people fainting during his speeches to try to win the election. do we want a leader to lie to us? not that they havent in the past, obviously, because i know they have. but knowing that he will, why would you want to vote for him?
We are at war with Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911. When McVeigh and his buddies committed terriorists acts on our soil, we did not wage war against every citizen who looked Irish. You are not being attacked, but statements you are making are being rebutted.
That guy is full of sh*t and the fact you would believe some cracked out story on the youtube shows you have a lot to learn.
We have made Islamic terriorist stronger by attacking innocent people, which is what McCain wants to continue doing. Why would he lie about fainting. That is just fu*king stupid. Honey you might as well give up argueing with us and go educate yourself. Stop believing the people on the radio who just want to spread hate so they can continue to feel superior!
bluflames83 wrote: im sorry, i forgot to pay proper respect in recognizing
Senator Barack HUSSEIN Obama II
i couldnt help that one..
vilen: the point is that barack hussein obama is lying about people fainting during his speeches to try to win the election. do we want a leader to lie to us? not that they havent in the past, obviously, because i know they have. but knowing that he will, why would you want to vote for him?
Yeah, like John McCain is such an honest guy. Politicians lie. It’s part of their job.
Here is a video of all of his lies:
Maximina wrote: We are at war with Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911. When McVeigh and his buddies committed terriorists acts on our soil, we did not wage war against every citizen who looked Irish. You are not being attacked, but statements you are making are being rebutted.That guy is full of sh*t and the fact you would believe some cracked out story on the youtube shows you have a lot to learn. We have made Islamic terriorist stronger by attacking innocent people, which is what McCain wants to continue doing. Why would he lie about fainting. That is just fu*king stupid. Honey you might as well give up argueing with us and go educate yourself. Stop believing the people on the radio who just want to spread hate so they can continue to feel superior!
I get my information from all sources, including talk conservative radio. I will listen to the other point of view in order to strengthen my own knowledge.
I am not trying to be mean, but some one needs to help him open his eyes. He does not seem to be listening to reason. It is not personal.
Maximina wrote: I get my information from all sources, including talk conservative radio. I will listen to the other point of view in order to strengthen my own knowledge.
I am not trying to be mean, but some one needs to help him open his eyes. He does not seem to be listening to reason. It is not personal.
maximina: how can you say that being at war with iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? i mean really. please explain. i am not believing every video on youtube, the guy submitted to a polygraph test, thats a lie detector, i know that much. you also listen to radio, why dont you think you’re listening to the spreading hate? i think its pretty funny how you feel the need to cuss me out over this. im open to your opinion if you have sources, and i have said that i dont want to argue about this. please settle down, this is a disscussion, not an argument. also, the youtube thing, vilen just posted a video.
vilen: again, you are pointing out flaws in mccains honesty. i do not endorse mccain. i dont like any of the candidates. in the video, the only words they showed mccain saying were “maybe 100″, and they didnt let him finish. he could have meant that he will be there until our work is done. a comparison, like in the bible when 40 is a big number. again, this is political radio, but didnt barack say at one point that he would bring back the draft? i forget why. i personally think the bomb-bomb-iran song is funny and creative. the video, in reference to mccain, said “this guy will do anything to get elected and he gets away with it?”. so will barack HUSSEIN obama, by saying that people fainted from his words, when they didnt. with the tax cuts, thats something that makes him a bad candidate. that clearly shows him being a hypocrite. honestly, i dont care about gay marriage at all, im not gay, so it doesnt concern me, so i dont care if he goes back on his word about that, it doesnt effect me. as for whoopi goldberg umm….well i dont know what to say about that. the guy who made the video im not sure you can take seriously because of the flip flop jokes. i suggest that instead of knocking mccain, show evidence why obama has the experience and character neccessary to be president.
yes, i am a stubborn person.
its almost 1am where i am so im going to get some sleep, ill check this in the morning.
Iraq had nothing to do to with 911. The majority of Americans are educated on this fact. There is no link between Hussein and Bin Laden. My point was I listen to all sources with all different view points. Were you there when the man took the polygraph. I am sorry if you felt like I was attacking you, but I am getting very tired of people trying to keep our country on the track of hate. I have nothing personally against you!
The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, not Saddam. Two different countries. America went to war with Iraq, because apparently Saddam had WMD’s (which he didn’t). Then they force democracy (that’s an oxy-moron, actually) on them, causing chaos and the death of nearly a million.
Stop capitalizing “Hussein.” That’s stupid. It’s just a name. Barack Obama has several policies which agree with, and he has a lot of charisma, which can be good for foreign deals and leadership. He is very smart, which you can tell from his speeches, and has strong stands on Iraq and the genocide in Darfur.
Now tell me, you can either elect him or a Bush-supporter like McCain.
Here are some of the facts on Obama, clearing up some of the smears. I guess the “fainting” thing hasn’t appeared there yet. I’ll keep looking for info on that one.
Amen!
I second that kindergarten statement.
I don’t know if Obama is reay to lead yet, but who was? There are a lot of experienced guys around, ready to support him in the beginning. Unfortunately some of those guys may have their own agendas too, but that goes for all the political groupings.
At the end of the day it comes down to a guy’s honesty and ethics. As far as I can see, Obama is the most honest guy around!
Please also remember, and I don’t think it is a controversial statement, that the Republican Ronald Reagan was one of the best presidents in modern time. So it very much comes down to the personal characteristics of the guy.
ok, im done with this post. as my last statement, however, im going to say that obamas religion is questionable, as everyone is saying hes not islamic. ok, assuming i believe that he is not islamic, there is evidence here: that obama doesnt know if hes evangelical. he doesnt know his own religion. theres evidence here: of him supporting the 57 islamic states. there is a discusssion here: about it. think whatever you want of it.
ALL OF YOU ARE JUST BASHING MCCAIN(who i dont support) AND SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BRING OBAMA DOWN.
**YOU HAVE YET TO SUPPLY REASONS WHY YOU THINK OBAMA IS QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT**
if you think the above statement is showing that obama is qualified to be president, it doesnt. you are bashing mccain(who i dont support) again.
i really dont support mccain even if you dont believe me, if i was old enough to vote, i probably wouldnt, because i dont think there are any great candidates.
In the first link, Obama made perfect sense when he described his religious status. He did not, contrary to many other, learn as a kid to shut up and stop thinking. Becoming religiously aware as an adult will automatically make the edges of any label a bit soft, at least to any intelligent person.
There are probably some people who want USA to be run by an Evangelist, along biblical rules. But that would make it as bad as when other countries are run by islamic rules. Religions are private and should be kept out of politics!
And the other two links are meant to cast dirt upon him, nothing else. Anybody who believes that Obama is a Muslim after all his statements, is right out stupid! (by the way I would not care, as long as he kept it out of his work)
This link (interview) shows that he thinks, including thinking about his own Christianity and how to categorize it. I see nothing wrong with that. On the contrary, I like a man who thinks!
No, did you READ it? The headline is “Barack Obama wants to be president of these 57 United States.” In a speech in Oregon, he said, “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.” He made a big mistake. There are 50 states, not 57. That’s the whole point of the article. He was tired, he made a MISTAKE.
The important point about your reply is that you tried to slander him in two ways: by insinuating that he’s a muslim (”hussein”) and by either lying, or ignorantly saying, that he was campaigning FOR 57 islamic states!
And regarding your 3rd link, you’re taking some bloke’s interpretation as THE WORD:
Obama said the other day that he had campaigned in 57 states. Most thought this was a mistake due to him being tired. But intelligent folks, such as myself, realized he was speaking of the 57 states of Islam. See link below.
Maybe because the guy said “intelligent folks, such as myself” huh? Huh? The “discussion” is started by a couple of nobodys who know nothing about what they’re talking about hellow!!
This is all very sad, because our country is in a pickle and we need the voters to wake up and use their brains. And that means thinking for themselves and relying on facts, not slander.
I agree again.
We don’t know all about Obama, but he seems OK and deserves a chance.
We know more about McCain, but not all is to a lot of people’s preference.
Candidates should be judged by their capabilities, not by smearing dirt on their competitors.
To be quite honest, I did not like the same being done to McCain either, in terms of his possible need of Viagra.
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molotok wrote:
We don’t know all about Obama, but he seems OK and deserves a chance.
We know more about McCain, but not all is to a lot of people’s preference.
Christ was the good guy, because he suffered for his beliefs. Sorry to say it, but I think part of the rest is just a story. God is the bad guy in it, because who would do away with his own son?
(I could possibly have swopped one of my kids for a brand new Harley Davidson, but I didn’t even consider it!)
But why all this fuzz about Obama’s religious belonging? As long as he keeps it out of his governing? And the term “Christian” tells absolutely nothing about a person. Christianity has a long history of atrocities. It took more then 600 years for it to reform, but there are still guys around with the old beliefs. Huckabee is a “Christian”, but boasts about having put 16 men to death…
Obama is accused by some people for being a muslim, but says he is not. I have no reason to disbelieve him.
But “accused”? Is it better to be “accused” for being a Christian? There are all sorts of Chistians, and I prefer to look at the person rather than looking at this type of label.
The assumption that Islam is a “bad” religion is as true, or false, as saying the same about Christianity. It all comes down to the person. The Oklahoma bomber was a Christian, while my friend Nextstar is a muslim. As of personal characteristics, I would rather see that Obama was like Nextstar, than seeing another Tim McVeigh on the scene.
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