Help help: If you don’t know what I am talking about, why would you respond to this? - Help.com

Because I want to respond to this. You asked a question so it deserves an answer.

What are you talking about..Couriosity begs the question.

If it was meaningless I would have to be honest and say change the subject.

That’s why sometimes I do not respond to your invites..orry if that offends but its true.

business-development wrote:
Aren’t “social networks” about talking with out any meaningful focus whatsover? Or what, for example is the “point” of FaceBook.COM?

The point of FB to me is to keep in touch with friends, and to share stuff with people. Just to me though.

business-development wrote:
When I started getting alot of “application requests” on FaceBook, I started turning them off (blocking the applications) because they seemed meaningless to me. If someone wants to tell me or ask me something on FaceBook.COM, they will have to type it out — like this :D

Another example of this phenomenon — perhaps an even *better* example — is twitter.com: sure, I can write whatever I feed like writing — but who *REALLY* cares if Mr. X went to McDonald’s or drank a coffee at the Louvre?

Ultimately: If someone says “@XYZ I totally agree!” — then is there *ANY USE* to that?

If there is no point or goal — if there is nothing that people are talking *about*, then the conversation seems, well, pointless.

And in particular @NisaANYgirl: you could keep in touch with friends at your own site too (you don’t *need* FaceBook.COM for that)… but I guess many people are willing to give up their privacy for the “bells & whistles” (and so am I — I just make sure to keep it in the “normal” range ;)

OR instead of wasting time making my own site and then going through all the trouble to get my friends to go to it, I could just make a Facebook page. Applications suck, but then, you could just do the adult thing and ignore them like I do. And I don’t know what you mean by that last sentence, but my Facebook profile is more private than my help.com profile. So…

PS: If you think it’s useless, don’t use it. Simple as that.

business-development wrote:
… and the “point” at Help.COM is (I guess) Helping (in a “commercial” context) — and that is what I was talking about: The domain name *provides the context* (and so everything said on Help.COM is *expected to be* related to that theme).

Good point! And you needed help with… ???

because you invited me.

why wouldn’t i?

:)

I respond for different reasons, not understanding does make it difficult, but sometimes it’s just to be supportive if nothing else.

BTW the THEME of social networks is socialization.

I don’t know if I would go that far, lol

I still use pens & paper, older relatives still don’t have the internet.

That’s hilarious. I had to teach my daughter how to use a rotary phone when we were visiting a friend once, she was going to call her Dad and it was so funny when she picked up the phone and said “How do you use this?”.

:) i’ll have to be honest, the only way i know how to use those phones is from the movies :)

but that’s understandable. when technology becomes outdated, it is slowly forgotten. i do feel real attached to hand-writing, though. i hope people don’t forget…

Simplistic, but yes.

That conversation is just a bit more complicated then I wanted, lol, I’m a very simple girl.

social networks are self-sustaining once started. once you get the site active with enough people, recruitment begins on its own. the ‘point’ of a social networking site like Facebook or MySpace is to connect. whether this is to real people or not, it is irrelevent. Sometimes it’s to a friend who has moved away. Sometimes its to a person you will never meet. It seems like this ‘connection’ that people are seeking is not very discriminatory at all. in fact, i find that some people actually PREFER the ‘anonymous’ approach of befriending people whom they will only be able to contact through an online medium. this simplifies relationships to the click of a button. like someone? send them a virtual flower. don’t like someone? delete them from your friends list. the ‘point’ of these social networking sites is to market this connectivity and convenience.

yes, but this isn’t truly all of the time. that’s the difference between sites like facebook and myspace and sites like help.com

Facebook and MySpace are just as commonly used to connect real people and real friends. Help.com brings strangers together under the appeal of a specific cause.

I don’t necessarily believe that people are looking for a “virtual connection” that doesn’t really require a “real world” counterpart — a “real” *commitment*, I would have to say that is based on the individual, every person on the internet has their own personal motivations for being on the internet. For some it is a real connection and real commitment, for some it’s just for kicks.

I think the two of you touched upon something that strikes me about help.com, it being a specific cause, but it’s not treated as such, it’s not treated like a real world cause would be, it’s treated like any other internet social network, very interesting.

It’s still the internet though and you have to take it as it is…or not at all.

I agree that, but I don’t agree with it at the same time.

:-)

Well, it’s true.

Yes, the internet is just another means of communication, but if you really believe the internet is completely nothing more then different kinds of pens or pencils you wouldn’t have posted this and other very complicated quearies about it. There’s nothing complicated about a pencil, but the internet is more complex.

My womanly point proved! lol

I would think that would get dull pretty fast. Just how interesting could “Fizz” be?

Until it gives you heartburn.

Transfer of ownership takes time in any business and I believe that is what is happening here. I don’t believe that those responsible for this site aren’t hearing our concerns, I also don’t believe that nothing is being done. I think the issues that we want resolved are on hold because of the transfer. As soon as that is complete I believe that we will see a difference. But it’s like anything, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.