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Still trying to figure out this argument I had with my long-distance girlfriend.

NOTE: I don’t need anyone here telling me it’s a bad idea to be in a long-distance relationship. So don’t bother giving me advice in that regard.

Here’s what I still can’t figure out about this whole thing. (If you’ve been reading my other posts, you’ll know that this has been running through my head for days now.) The whole argument was done over instant message at her behest. I wanted to actually talk about it, but she said she didn’t want to, that she wanted to be able to write out a response rather than react.

I can’t understand this, though. Why would she not want to talk to me about it? I do know that the sound of my voice really makes her melt, and I’m thinking that the only reason she didn’t want to talk was because she didn’t want to lose the argument. But if that’s the case, then she should know that she wouldn’t have, because I’d already made up my mind that I was wrong for what I did and that she was right. And then, by the end of it all, she took something I had typed out of context, and misinterpreted what it was I was trying to say, and ended up getting hurt because of it. If she had listened to the sound of my voice, my inflection and intonation, she would have heard me pleading with her, and she would have heard the confusion in my voice. Instead, she read anger and frustration and insults.

Hopefully we’ll actually get to talk the next time, or at least she’ll let me talk to her and she’ll listen, because I can’t deal with having to type things out to her. Sure it’s a way to communicate, but it’s not the only way, and we can’t be getting into arguments over IMs or texts or e-mails, because they can never replace the sound of the human voice.

For the record, I sent her an e-mail concerning this, but she won’t be reading it until she gets back from holiday.

I don’t know. I’m just trying to make sense of it all.

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JesusMurphy offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (6 minutes after post)

Why don’t you tell her what you just told us?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (9 minutes after post)

She’s away on holiday right now, so I had to resort to leaving her an e-mail for her to read when she gets back (she’s in a place with limited Internet access, if any at all).

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (10 minutes after post)

doesnt she has a phone?

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AshleyAnemia. (: offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
US | 1 year, 3 months ago (11 minutes after post)

:)

You’re the sweetest guy ever…

Haha. None of my ex’s have ever cared that much about me.
Well there was one, but it didn’t work out. He never really said anything at all about how he feels about me.

YOU have a WONDERFUL thing going for you. (Y)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (13 minutes after post)

@ Black_Lovers_Heart:
She lives in England, and I live in the States. We thus resort to talking on Skype. Besides, being that she’s on holiday in France, it means I can’t call her. I doubt she would answer my phone calls anyway, since we’re supposed to be on a break (the outcome of the argument).

@ .ash>>:
Thanks, but how do I show her that without looking needy and desperate?

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AshleyAnemia. (: offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
US | 1 year, 3 months ago (16 minutes after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
@ Black_Lovers_Heart:
She lives in England, and I live in the States. We thus resort to talking on Skype. Besides, being that she’s on holiday in France, it means I can’t call her. I doubt she would answer my phone calls anyway, since we’re supposed to be on a break (the outcome of the argument).

@ .ash>>:
Thanks, but how do I show her that without looking needy and desperate?

Well, if we were dating and I miss read whatever you said, I would be hurt. I would want you to plea that that’s not like it was at all. She would understand that you do really need her.
;)
But that’s just my opinion.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (18 minutes after post)

My suggestion is to talk with her, if she gives up too much resistance, give yourself some space between both, say something that would put the ball on her court and see if she’s trully interested in working something beneficial for both for the sake of the relationship.

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1 year, 3 months ago (22 minutes after post)

Eehm even i call my bf from the netherlands to bangladesh so why not just call? worst thing she can do is hang up

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1 year, 3 months ago (23 minutes after post)

cant u send her sms?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (23 minutes after post)

I think you both have a different view… She probably wanted to type instead of talk, so she could have time to think about what she wanted to say, therefore giving her a well-thought out response instead of immediate reaction, which sometimes isn’t the best. You also have a very good point, about your what you wrote and how she misinterpreted it. It could have very well worked better if she had heard your tone.

From what I see, you should come to a compromise, and talk on the phone about what happened, the next time you are able to contact her.

You sound like a really really sweet guy, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. (Although I don’t really know what the situation is, eheh.) A sweet guy is bound to melt almost any girl. You said you sent her an email? She’ll probably understand. And like I said, just talk about what happened. I’m sure it’ll all turn up ok. c:

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AshleyAnemia. (: offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
US | 1 year, 3 months ago (23 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
Eehm even i call my bf from the netherlands to bangladesh so why not just call? worst thing she can do is hang up

YES!
Perfect.
She’ll get that you’re really trying to fix things up by calling.
It will make her feel special-er?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (24 minutes after post)

Here’s the e-mail I sent her:

One last thing I need to say, however, is that we really do need to physically talk to one another at some point. The way I say something may not necessarily be the way you read it online. My inflection and intonation will determine what it really is I’m trying to say, and I honestly think you may have misinterpreted a few things I was saying simply because of the way chatting cannot replicate physical speaking. And if you don’t want to talk, that’s fine, and you can type back to me and not say a word if you don’t want to, but I really need to actually say what’s on my mind rather than typing it out. I think that if you had heard my pleading rather than read my stupid comments (which were very, very stupid) it would have made a world of difference.

That’s all.

@ Joey_PR:
There was on e-mail before this one in which I said:

…ultimately, you own the situation, not me. Only you can determine if and when I am ready to be reintroduced into your life. All I can do from now on is work things out on my end, and hope one day you will take me back.

Which is what I’m doing on here. But I’m not quite sure how to tell her that I’ve been doing all I can to fix this other than to neglect her wishes in regards to the break.

(NOTE: The reason why we argued and are thus taking a break is because I got jealous, and it all stemmed from my paranoia and low self-esteem. I’ve been on here ever since the argument to try and sort it all out for myself. I’ve got some really good advice on the self-esteem and paranoia issue, and I’m working well toward a solution in that regard. But I need to get her back.)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (25 minutes after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
Here’s the e-mail I sent her:

One last thing I need to say, however, is that we really do need to physically talk to one another at some point. The way I say something may not necessarily be the way you read it online. My inflection and intonation will determine what it really is I’m trying to say, and I honestly think you may have misinterpreted a few things I was saying simply because of the way chatting cannot replicate physical speaking. And if you don’t want to talk, that’s fine, and you can type back to me and not say a word if you don’t want to, but I really need to actually say what’s on my mind rather than typing it out. I think that if you had heard my pleading rather than read my stupid comments (which were very, very stupid) it would have made a world of difference.That’s all.
@ Joey_PR:There was on e-mail before this one in which I said:
…ultimately, you own the situation, not me. Only you can determine if and when I am ready to be reintroduced into your life. All I can do from now on is work things out on my end, and hope one day you will take me back.
Which is what I’m doing on here. But I’m not quite sure how to tell her that I’ve been doing all I can to fix this other than to neglect her wishes in regards to the break.(NOTE: The reason why we argued and are thus taking a break is because I got jealous, and it all stemmed from my paranoia and low self-esteem. I’ve been on here ever since the argument to try and sort it all out for myself. I’ve got some really good advice on the self-esteem and paranoia issue, and I’m working well toward a solution in that regard. But I need to get her back.)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (25 minutes after post)

woops brb restard pc, somethings f’d up here >:(

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (25 minutes after post)

Although long distance relationships are hard mostly for this reason there are things that you can do and it is still healthy to have an argument here or there. I was in a long distance relationship for about a year and what helped us more than anything was to get web cams! It gave us a chance to see each other in person and how the other reacted. It’s NEVER a good idea to argue over text IM or e-mail it is not healthy and not how our psyche as humans works because we can never understand the meaning behind what the other person says. We are very much visual creatures in the fact that we pick so much up from our partners body movements and the looks on their reactions. It would have helped as you said to have talked to her over the phone because of the inflection and tone. The other concern that I have is that you worry that the reason she didn’t want to talk to you on the phone is because she was afraid she would “loose” the argument. I think either you need to speak with her about being strong enough to express what she needs to you in a non-internet way (either on the phone or through a webcam conversation) without just giving in. That’s not very healthy in itself.
All I can say is hang in there and get in some good conversation between the two of you get on the same level and work on those things that your struggling with!

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AshleyAnemia. (: offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
US | 1 year, 3 months ago (26 minutes after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
Here’s the e-mail I sent her:

One last thing I need to say, however, is that we really do need to physically talk to one another at some point. The way I say something may not necessarily be the way you read it online. My inflection and intonation will determine what it really is I’m trying to say, and I honestly think you may have misinterpreted a few things I was saying simply because of the way chatting cannot replicate physical speaking. And if you don’t want to talk, that’s fine, and you can type back to me and not say a word if you don’t want to, but I really need to actually say what’s on my mind rather than typing it out. I think that if you had heard my pleading rather than read my stupid comments (which were very, very stupid) it would have made a world of difference.That’s all.
@ Joey_PR:There was on e-mail before this one in which I said:
…ultimately, you own the situation, not me. Only you can determine if and when I am ready to be reintroduced into your life. All I can do from now on is work things out on my end, and hope one day you will take me back.
Which is what I’m doing on here. But I’m not quite sure how to tell her that I’ve been doing all I can to fix this other than to neglect her wishes in regards to the break.(NOTE: The reason why we argued and are thus taking a break is because I got jealous, and it all stemmed from my paranoia and low self-esteem. I’ve been on here ever since the argument to try and sort it all out for myself. I’ve got some really good advice on the self-esteem and paranoia issue, and I’m working well toward a solution in that regard. But I need to get her back.)

;OOOO
Ahh. I remember I used that line.
Oh the flashbacks.
“One day you can forgive me and forget it all. Then decide to take me back.” is what I saod.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (26 minutes after post)

The ability to sooth someone with a touch, a smile, a soft voice is lost in the TOS of a long distance relationship:) I found them exciting at times but in the long run disapointing:(

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (30 minutes after post)

@ glasspanda:
Thanks. I’m feeling really optimistic about the situation, actually. I just don’t know how I’m supposed to prove to her that I’ve changed myself for the better without looking pathetic, or desperate, or clingy (which is what I was doing).

@ baggy:
Haha, it’s cool man.

UPDATE: She has Internet access in France. She just updated her Facebook profile. She hasn’t replied to my e-mails yet, though, so she’s either keeping mum about it or is waiting to get online to actually talk. At any rate, I’m just going to respect her wishes and let go for a while, and be patient and wait for her to come back.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (34 minutes after post)

You responded inelligently in the e-mail. I would leave it at that if she allready read it, there’s not much you can do if you have already told her your part and she doesn’t respond back, let’s hope she answers, she already must know what type of guy you are. Good luck JDL, we’ll be here.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (39 minutes after post)

@ papillon.belle:
Thanks. I just hope she will just read my e-mail and understand my concerns. I have never been in a long-distance relationship before, so all of this is very difficult and very strange. But I hope she will see where I’m coming from and understand that we really do need to talk at some point, even for just a few minutes.

@ Joey_PR:
Yeah, that’s going to be my MO for a while. But considering my hobbies involve my computer (I’m a writer), it’s hard for me to take my mind off her by doing something else without itching to get online and see if she’s said anything back to me. Although I do have other things I can do. Anyway, I just need to let go for a while.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (44 minutes after post)

I swear to God, anon, if I get Rick Rolled, I’m going to go through the Internet tubes, find you, and eat your liver with a plastic spoon.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (45 minutes after post)

Hmm. Not quite, unless there’s a new trend of being Ryan Rolled! Nah, but really, thanks.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (50 minutes after post)

JDL, I understand man. We all want that loving feeling in our lives and its f’ing hard to accept some things when they happen, unlike most popular belief, we men feel, cry and want to love and be loved to…we are humans too, our hearts arent made of stone…its that most are inflated with a f’up ego. Do u have another computer you can work with? I feel you man, been through some difficult crap in my life similar to what you feel and all I can say is that you will be fine, just don’t let your “emotions” do the “reasoning” for you, ok?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (54 minutes after post)

@ Joey_PR:
I need to be in control of my emotions, and not let my emotions control me. It’s hard, but I have faith that things are going to work out.

Unfortunately, both computers I have to work with connect to the Internet. Thankfully, I have two jobs right now to keep me pretty well occupied. That reminds me, I need to go study some menus.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (56 minutes after post)

I have a test tomorrow of my own ha! ill study later though. Stay strong man, you are not alone. Glad to hear you think that way about your emotions.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 37 minutes after post)

Everything’s gonna be alright! just make sure you talk to her next time. Good luck!

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 43 minutes after post)

SingerInPurple wrote:
Everything’s gonna be alright! just make sure you talk to her next time. Good luck!

But what if she refuses again?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 50 minutes after post)

J.D.L. wrote:

SingerInPurple wrote:
Everything’s gonna be alright! just make sure you talk to her next time. Good luck!

But what if she refuses again?

Just call her and be like “we need to talk and I don’t have a computer near me”…and make sure you really don’t have a computer near you because lying just makes things worse :P

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 53 minutes after post)

There you go man, if you push too hard youll smother her and push her away. Let her make the move, you already did your stuff. Good luck.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 54 minutes after post)

If she refuses, then she just doesn’t want to act up.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 57 minutes after post)

The only way I can call is by using my computer. Long-distance costs are astronomical. I can call her phone using Skype and all, but it’s hard to determine if she’ll pick up. I need to just let her alone for a while.

Something I realized while thinking of this and listening to music (reggae, for the curious) is that I wasn’t giving her the freedom she needed. I was being so clingy and, as you said Joey, smothering, that I did push her away.

But I honestly cannot go on without her. I will never find anyone as great as her. I will never find anyone as pretty, as complementing to my personality, as open and honest, as trusting as her. I really hate that I ****** up so bad. I need to get her back.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 7 minutes after post)

so just give it time, it’ll be fine

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 7 minutes after post)

I mean, I did exactly what my mother does, the very thing I hate. My mum pushes her love onto me and my brother so much that it causes us to resent it and pull away from her, which hurts her. But of course, being that she’s our mum, we go back to her. We still love her, but we don’t need the smothering attention.

And that’s what I did. And I can’t believe I did it.

I just want her to come back to me.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 8 minutes after post)

SingerInPurple wrote:
so just give it time, it’ll be fine

I know. I just need someplace to vent and get it all out of my head. Help.com is really good for that sort of thing.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 22 minutes after post)

JDL, women dont like cling needy type attitudes, and Im glad you know that.

J.D.L. wrote:
But I honestly cannot go on without her. I will never find anyone as great as her. I will never find anyone as pretty, as complementing to my personality, as open and honest, as trusting as her. I really hate that I ****** up so bad. I need to get her back.

Yes you will find someone, give it time, look around, what you are saying is just the state of mind you are presently in, your fear and emotions, insecurities f’ing with your mind. Ive been there. Just don’t stop walking, ’cause she can either give a crap or not give a crap, ultimately its HER CHOICE, and sadly we can’t do nothing about it except listen and respect her decision, its her personal space. Let’s see what happens, I hope she acts strong enough to face the situation and not turn out to be dishonest with you (cowardly).

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 25 minutes after post)

Its not a F**k up JDL, she has to be mature enough to LISTEN, you on the other hand made her conscious of your attitude towards the situation…and she knows it. Communication is key to ANY succesful relationship, and YOU correctly did your part.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 25 minutes after post)

One thing I also must remember is that if she didn’t care, if she didn’t want the relationship to work, then we never would have argued in the first place. The fact that I hurt her should be enough for me to realize she had put something in me that I broke, and she wants that back. Otherwise, she wouldn’t even bother with this break, and would have just said “Look, we’re done,” or even worse, ignore me flat out.

This is what happened with most of the girls I’ve ever had a crush on. I became so obsessed and needy that I turned them off completely. I don’t want to do this with her.

The distance just makes everything so strange and confusing and difficult, but all I ended up doing was making it harder. I keep harping on this, but I really do need to fix this. I can’t give up, but at the same time, I can’t become so heavily involved in something that is still so hard to figure out.

I just wish I hadn’t screwed up in the first place.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 27 minutes after post)

Yeah, I guess you’re right Joey. I need to realize that I will find someone else if this doesn’t work out with her. And if I can come to realize that, then perhaps it will even be enough to get her back. But if it isn’t, then I’ll be ready to move on.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 38 minutes after post)

JDL, you sound like me some years ago.
Try to learn from that, be stronger that how you are presently. Experiences are there to make us learn and aquire inner strength. It hurts I know, but the best thing is to understand that there will be another girl (if that one doesn’t turn out to be the one) that will make you FEEL what that one made you feel. You are worthy, its just that sometime we lose focus and expect some girl or some guy (in the cases of the girls) to make us feel worthy…feel me?

How you feel inside with yourself will eventually radiate outwards, be confident, communicative, don’t bottle emotions inwards, control them then express them outwards. Show confidence , smile at the girls, i bet you have things going on for yourself in your life. Stay strong man, I understand.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 41 minutes after post)

Whether or not she’s waiting for me in England by next year, I’m still going to be moving there. So really, this is the only shot I have at a real, lasting relationship until I leave. There’d be no sense in starting up anything with anyone here, unless it were just something superficial and purely physical. But that probably isn’t the best thing for me at the moment.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 13 minutes after post)

No. I just need to get out of Pennsylvania, basically. I went to England a few months ago for a study abroad programme, which is where I met her. But the main reason for going to England was to see if it really is the place I’ve always wanted to live, and it is. I left a girl back here in the States to go to the UK, and I never looked back. She wasn’t for me. While there, I met other girls, too, but none of them were for me, until I met her. If anything, she has only fueled and redoubled my effort to move out there.

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US | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 17 minutes after post)

There is this song.
:)

It’s wonderful.

Send it to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TPb-3…

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US | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 19 minutes after post)

.ashleyyy = wrote:
]There is this song.
:)

It’s wonderful.

Send it to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TPb-3…

Or make a video of you singing and send it to her.
:D

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 20 minutes after post)

.ashleyyy = wrote:
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.ashleyyy = wrote:
]There is this song.:)It’s wonderful.Send it to her.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TPb-3G3ZoY
Or make a video of you singing and send it to her.:D

Exactly.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 22 minutes after post)

Hmm. Not a bad idea, actually.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 23 minutes after post)

Ashleyyy,
don’t you ever send that to me. Deal?

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US | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 24 minutes after post)

Joey_PR wrote:
Ashleyyy, don’t you ever send that to me. Deal?

Send what?

:O
I feel bad.
I made you angry?
Why… I don’t know.

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US | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 25 minutes after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
Hmm. Not a bad idea, actually.

Do it.
She’ll see how much effort you put into it and ect.
;)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 30 minutes after post)

It can backfire JDL. She just probably needs space (as per my previous comments).

@ash:
Awwww, Im not angry baby. you might have misinterpreted my expression, its just that I found it personally excessively cheesy for my taste of song. But good suggestion though.
U ok?

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US | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 33 minutes after post)

Joey_PR wrote:
It can backfire JDL. She just probably needs space (as per my previous comments).

@ash:
Awwww, Im not angry baby. you might have misinterpreted my expression, its just that I found it personally excessively cheesy for my taste of song. But good suggestion though.
U ok?

Ohh.
I’m fine.
:)
I just found that song to be nice.
I’m more into Techno, Trace, and Heavy Metal. ;DD
Ohh, somewhat of acoustic on the side and screamo.
Pop is nice, I like J-pop/rock.
:D I like most of all music.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (10 hours, 36 minutes after post)

Joey_PR wrote:
It can backfire JDL. She just probably needs space (as per my previous comments).

Right, well obviously I’d do it when we were back on speaking terms.

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US | 1 year, 3 months ago (22 hours, 53 minutes after post)

J.D.L. wrote:

Joey_PR wrote:
It can backfire JDL. She just probably needs space (as per my previous comments).

Right, well obviously I’d do it when we were back on speaking terms.

That would be best.
:)

In the mean time, you should get out of the house.
;DD
Haha. take your mind off of it for now. She’ll come around when she’s ready.

You have a life. xD
I don’t, I just sit in front of a computer screen most of my life.
;O
lol

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 day, 3 hours after post)

I’m working ten hours today at two different jobs. That’s definitely getting me out of the house!

Also, I’m looking into taking kickboxing or some other martial arts training. That would help me boost my confidence, and give me some discipline. Not to mention the exercise I’d be getting!

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 day, 11 hours after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
I’m working ten hours today at two different jobs. That’s definitely getting me out of the house!

Also, I’m looking into taking kickboxing or some other martial arts training. That would help me boost my confidence, and give me some discipline. Not to mention the exercise I’d be getting!

I’m glad you have that attitude JDL. That’s the way to go.

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1 year, 3 months ago (2 days, 7 hours after post)

I’m the kind of girl who would prefer to “talk” to someone via IM or e-mails. For me, a socially anxious person, I find it easier to think out my responses, rather than spout out some verbal diarrhea because I’m nervous. This has gotten me into lots of trouble, and has caused some completely unnecessary drama.
Online communication is so tricky and obscure, and usually things get completely misunderstood, like in your case. It’s not fair that she took what you WROTE out of context, but that’s what typically happens in IM. I do understand why she had the desire to do all this online, but I also understand that this is just poor communication, and a relationship deserves more than instant messages (especially during an argument/dispute).
Whenever you get the chance to actually speak with her, explain a little of what you’ve already stated here: that you want her to hear what you have to say, and that you’re actually interested in hearing what she has to say, but in person. As I’ve already said, a relationship deserves open, spoken communication–even more so a long-distance one–so that unfortunate mix-ups like this one don’t happen as often. Good luck!

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 days, 16 hours after post)

A friend of mine recommended an author to me by the name of Og Mandino, and I am so incredibly thankful. This man’s simple proverbs are exactly what I need to kick me into shape. My current favourite quote from Mandino’s ‘Scroll VI’:

Weak is he who permits his thoughts to control his actions, strong is he who forces his actions to control his thoughts.

I mean, most of what he said and wrote seems like they should be responded to with a long, resounding ‘Duh!’, but at the same time, it’s the obvious things like these that we often take for granted as a part of everyday life.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 days, 9 hours after post)

An Update of Sorts:

Her current Facebook status reads ‘…is full of thought,’ which I find to be a pretty good thing. You may wonder why, but it’s a good sign to me. It’s the style of her writing. If she were being very extremely serious and perhaps even a little discourage about the relationship, she probably wouldn’t have said much of anything. But since she took what really could have been one word (’thinking’) and turned it into a phrase, it says to me that she’s light-hearted and content. It also means she wanted me to read it, which is also a good thing. She hasn’t given up on me. She’s still thinking about me.

I’m pretty optimistic.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 days, 10 hours after post)

Swimming in my ignorance I didn’t know Og even existed. Got very impressed with what you quoted from him and found this (he was quoted saying):

“How do I change?
If I feel depressed I will sing.
If I feel sad I will laugh.
If I feel ill I will double my labour.
If I feel fear I will plunge ahead.
If I feel inferior I will wear new garments.
If I feel uncertain I will raise my voice.
If I feel poverty I will think of wealth to come.
If I feel incompetent I will think of past success.
If I feel insignificant I will remember my goals.
Today I will be the master of my emotions.”

and this…

“Never allow anyone to rain on your parade and thus cast a pall of gloom and defeat on the entire day. Remember that no talent, no self-denial, no brains, no character, are required to set up in the fault-finding business. Nothing external can have any power over you unless you permit it. Your time is too precious to be sacrificed in wasted days combating the menial forces of hate, jealously, and envy. Guard your fragile life carefully. Only God can shape a flower, but any foolish child can pull it to pieces.”

Wow…I encourage everybody to check his quotes out.

Thanks JDL. Stay positive.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 10 hours after post)

I’m not feeling as optimistic today as I was yesterday. She comes home from holiday this weekend, but I’m not going to be around at all due to work. I’m nervous and anxious about what it is she’s going to say to me (if anything at all, seeing as when she left she said she may need more than just a week to sort things out on her end). I’m afraid she’ll come back and tell me it’s over, that it’s not going to work out, that I need to just forget about her. And yet despite my fears, I don’t feel like I’ve hit that wall, the sort of feeling I had when I knew my relationships with my ex-girlfriends were over. But maybe it’s just wishful thinking.

I feel so drained, and powerless, and helpless, and like I want to just give up on this whole thing and go for someone who is far less than my standards, someone out of my league (on the bottom end, not the top). I want nothing more than to take a weekend flight out there and be with her for just a day or two, and kiss her, and hold her, and tell her I love her face-to-face, but I can’t. I’m so frustrated I could spit.

But I know what all this mixing of emotions really is. I get blind-sided by my feelings so much sometimes that I can’t even tell what it is I’m feeling. But after writing it all out, I know. I know what I’m feeling.

I miss her.

I just want the distance to end. I want it all to be easier. I don’t want to wait anymore. But she is far too worth it to be easy, and far too special to get impatient over. I need to remember that one day I will be with her. Everything will be fine.

‘Today I will be the master of my emotions.’ Much easier said than done.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 10 hours after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
‘Today I will be the master of my emotions.’ Much easier said than done.

I know. I personally work on it. I like the second one more.

Your anxiuos about what will happen, of what she will say, and fear being rejected. Its understandable and normal (your reaction). You miss what you felt with her.
I just hope she confronts the situation and has some consideration towards you and finally clear things up.

How long has it been since any of you had contact?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 10 hours after post)

Last Friday. It’s been one roller-coaster of a week.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 10 hours after post)

Was that the last time you made contact? or her?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 10 hours after post)

Well, that was the last time we talked. She sent me an e-mail the following morning saying how she would think things over. I replied with one saying I would, too. Then I sent the one that you read here the next day. Nothing since then.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 11 hours after post)

IMO, give it this weekend then JDL. Lets see if she does something…if not. I don’t recommend you stick on waiting for her response.

What do you think?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 11 hours after post)

That’s what I’m thinking, too. Hopefully she’ll text me, or e-mail me, or send me a message on Facebook. If not, I suppose I’ll have to make the first move via similar methods.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 11 hours after post)

Lets hope so, if not I would just send her an ultimattum, something that expresses the decision you have taken if you realize its over (make your own closure).

If she doesn’t decide, you have to decide.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 11 hours after post)

The thing is, I don’t feel like it’s over. At least not on my end. I just am so unsure of how she feels (but then, I’m never sure about how women feel, and I never bloody will).

I know a few things, though. A) I want to be with her. B) She is 3700 miles away. C) I’m working my butt off to save up money so I can move to the UK, whether she is in the picture or not (this I made clear to her when I made the initial decision to move). D) She has feelings for me, and finds me handsome, funny, and easy to get along with.

What I don’t know is what she’s thinking.

I’m the type of person who hates not knowing what’s going on. I hate being in the dark. And the distance just further exacerbates this problem, but it’s something I am more than willing to deal with and work at if it means getting to be with her.

This is such crap. Why can’t things just be a little easier?

One thing I must remember, though, is that easy is not always good. My last girlfriend was easy, and when we broke up, I didn’t care at all. I didn’t fight to get her back. I didn’t bother to continue it any further than that. It was all too easy.

This isn’t easy. And so I’ll fight for her. I have to.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 11 hours after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
I’m the type of person who hates not knowing what’s going on. I hate being in the dark.

Me too.
Do what you feel J.D.L.
After all, you are the one who decides whats best for yourself.

BTW, when I don’t know what a girls up to, distant, unresponsive for so much time and all that crap….I personally read her actions, analyze as to how am I being treated and decide for the sake of myself.

I feel you man, I know its hard but its almost the weekend, lets hope this situation in your life gets cleared up.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

The worst part about all this: It’s my birthday. I’m twenty-three.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

Today?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

Yeah. Of all days.

I was looking forward to this day before the argument. I thought for sure she’d do something nice for me.

Now I don’t know.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

J.D.L. wrote:
The worst part about all this: It’s my birthday. I’m twenty-three.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

Your still very young JDL. Happy birthday!

Don’t rely on her for doing crap, she’s too unstable to be counted on right now, she either might or might not wish you a happy day.

Eat some cake and try to have a good one today.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

Forget cake. I’m getting hammered.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 12 hours after post)

Take care J.
Have fun and be safe.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 days, 20 hours after post)

Oh wow. She sent me a text last night wishing me a happy birthday ‘despite everything at the moment’ (her words). I sent her back a thank you message, and another one after that with an inside joke. Not a word back, though, so I guess it was just a little something to say she’s still thinking of me. And that’s just fine.

I’m beginning to think just how badly we may have blown this thing out of proportion. That perhaps we’re making a bigger deal out of something than there really is, making a mountain out of mole hill, as the saying goes. I mean, everything before this was so light and fun. Then I got really jealous, and it all became super serious. Maybe things don’t need to be so serious. Not yet, anyway. I mean, we’ve only really known each other for, what, two months? And we’re getting into arguments over Facebook messages and already taking breaks and sorting out relationship woes? I’d say that’s getting things pretty serious, and that’s what we set out trying to avoid.

I mean, I honestly can’t say why it is we’re fighting anymore. I can understand the initial explosion, and perhaps a few days to cool off, but I just don’t see the point anymore in this extended break period. It’s like she gave a stock answer to the original problem, instead of forgiving and forgetting.

Hmm. How can I relate this to her?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 week after post)

This has kind of been all squared away. For recent developments, go here:
http://help.com/post/189549-more-vent…

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