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The situation has become more difficult.

If any of you will remember my last post.

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Her family does not like me. My family does not like her. All that. PLans being constantly canceled because Father is paranoid is a new rule. Recently he’s been getting some “Gut feeling” that isn’t too far from the truth, but he’s very abusive. He doesn’t hate her, well he does but he says he doesn’t. He just hates me when I tell him I want to see her or if I even say his name. I can’t tell you how many days of school I missed because I couldn’t get out of bed from the night before and his hits. I’m not here to complain about him, he’ll be whatever the **** he wants to be for the time being. The main focus now is that I need to work around this. Sneaking out is going to need to be more fool-proof. Seeing her in public is open. I don’t care what I have to spend or what I really have to do. I need to see her. Any and all ideas are much appreciated.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (4 minutes after post)

Well, if he actually hits you, have you considered denouncing him?
I’d do it…he doesn’t seem like a “good father” to me…

About meeting her, what about arranging a meeting in some friend’s house…or a party, where your parents don’t know anything about her being there..

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (11 minutes after post)

I have threatened to do that. He just gets angrier and he lives the closest to her. I’m not ready to denounceh is father because when I’m not hung over this girl, he’s actually a very… I don’t know. Important part of my life, I guess.

That idea is something we had in mind, but we have little to no real mutual friends. The ones we do have are trying to set things up and I think I’ll be able to see her the night before summer vacation ends and.. I don’t know. I won’t be able to show her how I feel for her because everyone will be there, you know? We’re deeply in love, but we’re so shy to telling our friends that it’s ridiculous..

Thank you for your help, by the way. It means the world to someone who’s made some pretty bad mistakes.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (15 minutes after post)

No problem…and why is he so angry at her? have you tried to talk to him about what is that eh doesn’t like about her? Although I don’t know if he’s a good person to talk to…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (18 minutes after post)

Talking to him about her = No.

It’s hard to explain, but when my father or my mother decide they don’t like someone it is VERY hard and almost impossible for my father to change his mind. He’s angry at me because of what I did to be with her. The immoral things and leaving my mother and him and.. Just a bunch of things I’m not proud of. And I can’t even honestly tell myself I’d take it all back. I told him this once and since then he’s felt a deep resentment toward her and me.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (29 minutes after post)

Well…as you can see, it’s really hard to run a good relationship without your parents support…That’s why I think you should find a way to cool him down…

Btw, she didn’t do anything at all? I mean…for what you’ve written seems like he’s more angry at you than her…

And what about your mother? maybe she could help out…

How old are you? maybe that can change something…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (36 minutes after post)

I’m 16.

I’ve been after this girl for three years.

My mother doesn’t exactly know that I’m still talking to her. You see, I left my mother’s house and moved in with my father a year ago. She almost went through a depression. She went to therapy because I moved out so bluntly and in with my father who wasn’t exactly there for me for a lot of my life. She figured I had some deeper plan and eventually it became known that it was because my father lived next to her.

A year went by and on-and-off my dad were fighting. I snuck out. I did all sorts of things to see her previously. And he found out about it all when I was about to move back out and in with my mother. When my lover and I were not talking. Then this passing summer we began talking again and the moments my Dad seeemed scariest began re-occuring because he had some feeling.

She never did anything to my parents, but she did a good number on me and to them it’s just as bad.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (42 minutes after post)

Mhm…and what has she done to you? I mean, have you considered that she might not be worth all that?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (51 minutes after post)

That’s not the issue. It goes just a tad deeper than some stupid teenager who’s head-over-heels for some girl. I don’t know how to explain it without sounding stupid because I’m sure you’ve heard it a million times. I’m happy around her and she’s happy around me. She has made all efforts to see me and now I feel like I need to repay the favor.

She hasn’t really done anything to me. Just made me wait around for about three years and that wasn’t a very big deal to me. It was miserable, but I grew up quit a bit. I feel more confident about myself and I could pick any girl like a box of kittens in a litter, but I know I want her and her alone.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 1 minute after post)

Well, but it seems like, in the end, the reason for your dad to hate this girl, is that she made you wait for 3 years, and it kinda hurt you…and I don’t really think that’s a reason that can explain what he’s doing…maybe you haven’t noticed why he’s really doing it…

And yeah, I’ve heard it a lot, that’s why I was asking if she’s really worth it…although almost everyone says that yes…

Ok…I’ll tell you straight, to solve something, I try to solve the problem from the root..so that’s what I’m aiming now…so, you want me to do this, or you want me to suggest you ways to meet with her?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 6 minutes after post)

However you see fit. What will not work is..

Trying to make me see the wrong in wanting to spend the rest of my life with her.

Getting my dad to see that him beating me over one specific subject isn’t going to get me to stop or.. most of anything about me talking to my Father about her.

Trying to get my mother to help.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 11 minutes after post)

From what you know, I’ve had a very long to give these things thought. Many bruises among other things have been sacrificed to give those three topics I just listed a way to collapse. But nothing has budged.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 14 minutes after post)

mmm…well, I don’t really see how to help you improving your relationship with your father, in order to have more freedom…

You told me that, her fathers doesn’t like you (?)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 17 minutes after post)

I mentioned her parents don’t like me, but as I’ve stated in my last post. They didn’t like me being around because they thought I was making her do really dumb stuff, but I was barely talking to her at the time because she was with someone else. This other guy was this shinning light to them. They use to love me before he came around. I wasn’t as timid as her other boyfriends (Before the most recent one, of course.) and they saw a future in me. This guy, though, he’s such a help NOW that it doesn’t matter if there’s a future. They’ll turn out alright. But.. She wasn’t happy with him. At all. He was controlling, paranoid, insecure, and just not exactly a fun person to be around. I met him once. I felt that aura off of him. When I walked back into her life (It was my choice to leave her alone, by the way.) she dumped him not even a week from when we started talking again. It felt nice. I felt loved again and I realized how much I missed her.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 20 minutes after post)

…mhm…ever considered asking for help to them? with your GF’s support of course…
The more allies you’ve in here, the better…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 27 minutes after post)

Well, they don’t know that they broke up. He was suicidal about her breaking up with him.. And I couldn’t let our relationship be tainted like that. I didn’t want to take the risk that he’ll do something stupid like blow his brains out infront of her. So for now, I’m very fine with him coming over every now and then to live in this fantasy world that they are still together. The last time I saw her, she broke up with him. I was there the whole night as she did it. She tried to do it as quickly as possible, but he was presistent about trying to make it work between them. It was saddening.

And not to mention that her father doesn’t particularly like me. He just.. Doesn’t seem to care. The mother is the only one that would help and she’s not willing to help if it means losing the other guy.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 32 minutes after post)

Well, just fake with her, that he threatened her when she told him that she wanted to break up, because she was really unhappy with him…
Sooner or later that relation will have to end, and I don’t think that the guy will do that…and if he kills himself, he couldn’t have the guts to do it in front of her..

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 34 minutes after post)

We both count on him giving up. She’s cut off all real emotions with him and barely even acknowledges him when he’s there.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 37 minutes after post)

Well, if you want to have at least her mother by your side, and maybe her father, since you’ll be the kind of guy that “rescues” her from that mad ex boyfriend, just plot something against the guy…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 43 minutes after post)

Well, if that’s the case, and you want to look nice to her parents, then why don’t you act like the guy who rescues her of this mad dude, who threatened her…make a plot against him…well, that’s a way to improve your relation…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 33 minutes after post)

It is, but … I’m not … I don’t think I can. I’m not the type to turn people against one another. I’d rather have all this resentment on me than put the inconvenience and … Let’s just say I’m lazy and say I don’t want to? I’m sorry. It’s a good idea, I’m just not good in the subject.

By the way, hurray for faster Help.com

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 46 minutes after post)

lol, seems like it’s back to normal…

Well, maybe you could tell one of your friends to help you out (remember the thought of meeting in someone’s house?), and you’ll end up having more friends in common…

Mmmm…do you live in a big city, or a town?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 49 minutes after post)

It’s a town right next to a big city, but the town is growing ever so fast and on it’s way to being it’s own city in a few.

The thing is that we tried pretty hard to get me to be cool with her friends and vice versa. We like very few of eachother’s friends. Either I’ve done something in the past for them to already have a bad idea about me or they’re just someone I couldn’t get along with. And you know how teenagers can be when they don’t like someone. They’ll spread rumors and all sorts of who-cares.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 59 minutes after post)

Seems like you have quite a reputation there…lol, sounds a bit like a renegade (no offense meant)…

Mmmm…well, let’s see, in 2 years you’ll be free to go anywhere you want to…the town is growing fast, although it’s still a town, and when something happens, somehow everyone knows it…

Her friends won’t help you, but maybe if she talked to them, something might change…

Her parents don’t like you, at least when his actual BF is around…maybe her mother, but that’s a maybe…

Your mother is in another place, and you kinda left her, therefore the possibilities of her helping out are very little…

Your dad repudiates your relationship for a reason (that at least I) we don’t know, he hits you, and he’s strict…

Her BF threatened to kill himself if she left him…

mmm…one last thing to finish a general picture…how old is she?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 4 minutes after post)

15.

I live with my mother now.

She’s been trying to talk to her friends about us. I have no friends that can drive or seem any sort of help, therefore I’m on the look out on my own for my own way to see her.

My father hates the fact I moved in with him a year ago just to be with her. There are reasons to it. Like how I walked all over my mother to move in and if you apply geometry rules. Stepping all over mom = Move in to Dad’s = For her. And no one in the family digs that. She went to therapy and accepted me back because I couldn’t take my Father’s constant abuse.

The exBF threatened to do it, but he’s slowly getting on track now that he thinks they are trying to get things back to normal. She plans to remind him that they broken up every time he seems stable enough to take it until he gets use to the idea.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 20 minutes after post)

Well…then, I think that your best bet is to wait…she still needs to dump her BF (because he’s still his BF, even if she tries to cut the relation), you need to look, at least fine at her parents eyes…and when you’ve settled down things, if I were you, I’d denounce your dad…seriously, he has no right to hit you…

Well, have you talked of this to anyone else?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 39 minutes after post)

Only two. They told me to wait as well. But the thing is I want to see her. I can wait till the Earth implodes, but it doesn’t mean I don’t want to see. They aren’t going out. She already tells everyone that we’re together. He just tags along because he’s suicidal and she’s trying to shake that out of him.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 41 minutes after post)

Ok…I know it’s not the same, but at least is something…does she have a web-cam?

And, if you invite her to your mum’s place? I mean, you didn’t say anything about your mother hating her…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 46 minutes after post)

I didn’t say anything, but she can’t know I’m still talking to her. She’d alert my dad which would lead to a world of hell. She has a web-cam. We use to do that because this situation wasn’t very different from awhile ago. And … it didn’t work out because she has dial-up. Slideshow webcams are not fun.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 47 minutes after post)

I didn’t say anything about my mom not hating her, but either way**

Sorry. I completely blanked.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 51 minutes after post)

I’ve taken a deep drink form the cups of mental and emotional attention from her and now the nights of “God I wish you were here right now”s and “Why can’t we be together? I’d give you such a hug/kiss/etc.”s are catching up with me and I don’t know. Seeing her is slowly feeling like a necessity.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 53 minutes after post)

I know what you mean…lol, I’m involved in a long distance relation, and one kinda misses the actual feeling of someone by your side…not just on a screen…
But at least it’s something, rather than nothing…maybe as a last resource…

Either way, you should try to rebuild the relationship with your mum, and her parents, and her friends, since in the future, you’ll need them…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 55 minutes after post)

You’re right. In this post I’ve not only gained my first post to reach passed 20 replies, but I’ve also gained a deeper insight of what is going on around me. Thank you, 2511.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (3 hours, 59 minutes after post)

No problem, I hope I helped you out ^_^

Good luck with it!

It won’t be easy, but you’ve to start at some point =)

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