You don’t need to say anything.
Unless you’re Mas1st whose comments are always welcome. But I my relationship with my fiance has gotten really odd. Its been terrible the past 3 months and now I find out that she is waiting for an answer from God as to whether we are suppossed to be together. I have my answer from Big Daddy upstairs, but now i have to wait for her, and I don’t want to be getting all intimate to have her say that its the end; I told her this and she was like “that’s crazy that you would be keeping insurance.” Its so NOT insurance, as far as I can see we don’t have a relationship now cause I have to wait for God to tell her something. Finally I can vent that, it has been so private for the past week.
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Well I dont think it’s insurance one bit. The God thing bothers me as if she were that committed to his reply she wouldnt be calling you crazy for waiting for it also.
By any chance has something changed lately or is about to change. It is like she is waiting on something I’m not sure it’s God though. She hasnt started a new job or got new friends?
The last thing it could be is that she is actually frightened or nervous of getting intimate with anyone. Something is very contradictory about what you are describing. Is she quite young? - Mas
Not really facing the premature relationship problems, although she is young and used to have problems with intimacy, but we’ve been together for 3 years and worked through that kind of stuff. She is however just started on a new career path, and of course that we’ve been living 100km apart because she won’t move away from home and I am committed to my studies. And now that work has got me on weekends I almost never see her. But I was of the impression that our phone relationship was working ok, except for the fact that I lack the ability to communicate. About 5 nights back now we had a crazy conversation in which I was asking for her to give me the chance to communicate better and I was really sorry for screwing the relationship up before.
I do beleive that she is waiting for God’s response though, she’s been getting pretty spiritual this year. I just wish she would leave her lavish life with her spoiling rich parents and move into the real world so that we can be together. Leave and cleave Mas, leave and cleave.
The problem you have here is that the relationship has moved backwards. The distance, lack of physical contact and your problem with communicating.
I mean have you done the obvious and got web-cams, men who are notoriously shy at expressing themselves on the phone can do better if they have visuals.
God’s response maybe a factor but what kind of lifestyle change would she be subjected to if she left Mr & Mrs Ritchie Ritchy (her parents). Got to ask - do the parents like you? If they dont this would be the ideal time for them to drip-feed her about why she should stay at home an not move into a life of abject poverty with you.
You need to spend some time with this girl. It doesnt matter if you are working she can still travel to see you for a few hours. There are hours in the day if you make an effort. I think most of the effort is being made by you at the moment. Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s all about her and none about your happiness.
You got the situation into a nicely shaped T Mas. Her parents like me, but she’s the firstborn and, frankly, the best one of the lot. The 2nd child is a bit of a psycho. The mum works too much to actually be the housekeeper and the father is almost never there and is also self absorbed. If she left the place there would be some major role shifts at that place and the mum, somewhat manipulative, can’t ahndle that. She’s got everything working the way she wants it and doesn’t want it to change. And my baby (fiance not a child) is easily directed by the Mum as its her closest relationship (except for me once upon a time). She keeps arguing that she can’t come down. I just pray that in all this shifting of our relationship she learns a bit more about making an effort for other because in the 7 months since I’ve moved away from her she’s come down twice. I have seen her at least 20.
She’s young and she needs to leave home and learn abit about life, she doesn’t think that she’ll gain anything from moving out because, as i said, she already is running the house. But moving out isn’t about household responsibility, its about maturity and independence. I’ve told her all this stuff and still she wants to remain in her safety net, away from me.
Oh, and she has had some people stab her in the back before we got together so she had all these trust issues which i thought where coming right but… it really seems like there’s some more bones I didn’t see in the wardrobe.
Thanks for this Mas. I don’t see any conclusion as being possible, but its cool to talk about and see that I’m not just imagining that I’m getting the stinky end of the stick.
When do you envisage getting married to each other? Have dates ever been discussed?
We had discussed January 2010. Which is still a really long time away, but considering how things are going, that’s probably good.
Will your studies be complete by then? Also are you planning living near her family? It’s just I’m assuming your own family and friends (whom you dont mention at all) must surely equate into your thoughts for where you will settle.
I think she is quite enjoying her current domestic set-up. No bills, adoration from the parents. What exactly is she doing with her time when he isnt visiting you? I’d be quite insulted if I was studying and working and my absolute beloved wasnt putting in a few hours travel to support me.
You need the playing field levelled a bit. Not with ultimatums but what do you think would happen if you made a conscious decision not to travel to visit her for a month - would the relationship survive that? or would she let it all go cold?
Umm, i haven’t travelled to see her for a month because I’ve started working every weekend… and this is what has happenned. How long have you been doing this Mas, you seem to be very intuitive.
I joined this site about 6 months ago. I kind of wonder what you can do next, not what you should do but what you can actually do to repair this. I’d be loathe to say pack your stuff and move nearer her as her level of committment is way exceeded by yours right now and obviously that would cause major disruption for your studies.
I can tell you have totally invested all the love in your heart into this relationship but you dont sound foolish - you are not blind to all the glaring faults that are popping up in front of your eyes.
Do you think she doesnt view you as independent from her, have you maybe allowed her to think you are needy when it comes to her? I’d be very tempted if I were you to find at least one thing a week new (seriously) so that those phone calls arent more of the same but you can inject some laughter and new names into the conversations with her. Good old fashioned touch of jealousy wont harm her. You maybe have been too understanding and patient and she has just learned to take you for granted.
Do something wild one weekend - hire a motorbike and drive down after work to see her for an hour with some flowers and then leave in time to get back for next days work.Leave her wanting more - like you are running the schedule for a change.
I know it sounds corny but the more interesting and slightly more elusive you become the more notice she will take. But seems to me like the phone relationship part is killng this right now.
Thanks Mas, that’s really cool. Except I will need to get my bike licence first. Although… on the same page… I’ve been seriously considering a tatoo. I have discussed it with her so she wouldn’t get angry if I had it one day. I get what you mean mas. Cause the more she tells me about what she’s getting up to is the more I want to be involved, or I resent it because i can’t be involved. Thanks very much.
No probs - it’s a work in progress I think - just dont go getting her name tatooed on you just yet - Mas
Oh, i forgot about this post. Yeah, the relationship has been over for like 6 weeks.
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