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I’m having trouble.

I don’t really know how else to put it. I’m 26, I’m a temp, I get paid $15 an hour, which isn’t bad. I live in a nice apartment in sunny San Diego with my boyfriend, I have a cat and a fish. I’m the proper weight, I’m pretty healthy, and I have hobbies that keep me active. I have a loving, whole family. I should be a lot happier with where I am right now.

But the pure simple fact is that I’m not. My boyfriend is smart, smarter than I am really even though I’ve graduated college and he did not, and he’s very aggressive sometimes. He doesn’t hold me capable of taking care of myself, believing that I will not eat properly, tend to injuries or illnesses, or otherwise perform basic maintenence upon myself if left to my own devices. It’s not out of malice or control (he has said frequently that he would prefer I behave more mature and capable), but I feel he doesn’t LET me take care of myself. If I insist I can do something myself, he gets irate and sometimes highly offended that I don’t “ask for help” or “accept support”, when really I can do it myself. It’s like he wants me to be capable but won’t let me do it.

I am not financially stable, which doesn’t help. I have about $10,000 in debts from credit cards, student loans, and half a dozen other things. I’m trying to pay them down, but I have a hard time sticking to a proper budget. In addition, my boyfriend insists that I pay off these debts swiftly, as he wants to start saving up to buy a house in the very near future. I feel uncomfortable about this - not because I don’t want to buy a home with him - but because he has said before that my name will not be on the lease and as I am right now he’s not willing to marry me or have children because of my mental and emotional behavior. I don’t know how to bring it up, because speaking about it only seems to make him frustrated with me and leads to a fight about money.

I love my family, but they don’t help much. They insist moving in with my boyfriend was a bad idea and want me to move home, away from ALL my friends to the middle of nowhere with no prospects for a job. I have no desire to do this, especially since doing so would essentially mean my relationship would be over. They don’t object to him as my boyfriend, but they are very Catholic and object to me living with him when we’re neither married nor engaged. They are also very conservative and we fight about politics an awful lot.

I don’t like my job but I don’t have the degree or experience to do something I *would* like. I want to be a zookeeper or work with animals (NOT as a vet or vet-tech, as I cannot stand to see animals put to sleep), but I have a degree in literature. All my experience is in admin and office work. I have no desire to be a manager, but if I stay where I am I will never earn more. I am a temp, and want a permanent job, but don’t know how to ask in this terrible economy.

My car is falling apart, and I cannot afford a new one, but I need it to get to and from work. Rideshares are impossible to organize. I work eight hours a day, spend an hour on the road commuting, then come home to try and get the house chores done in addition to working horses for two hours three times a week at a lady’s ranch (which I do just to get out and do some work outside with horses because I love them). I feel stressed all the time, and I’m always tired. I went to couple’s counciling with my boyfriend to work out some communications issues, but it didn’t help much because he is highly resistant (and resentful) of therapists, due to his own familial trauma as a child. The therapist suggested I have PTSD due to the high number of sudden and violent deaths to which I have lost friends and family. I have barely any money to spend on therapy to fix it but it very obviously affects my life.

I feel so lost… so sad… so weary. I think about killing myself sometimes, but never ever in seriousness, because I know it’s not the answer and I’m afraid of death. That fear of death is a source of panic attacks and nightmares. I have nightmares more than once a week, I seldom sleep the entire night through. I don’t have the money to ask for help from the resources I know of, but I’m afraid something is going to break if I don’t get help or figure out a way to help myself soon. I have contemplated wrecking my car on purpose just to have it totalled so I can get another car, I have thought about driving off a cliff so I would be injured badly and not have to work anymore and have people stop yelling at me for not doing things right or pressuring me to do things like save money when I have so little to spare already. I’m just so terrified and sad and angry and I hurt inside awfully, but I don’t know what to do. I’m in trouble and I don’t know where to go where I might actually not be judged or told to get over it, short of a church, and I hate religion for what I went through as a kid in Catholic School. I am so sick and fed up but I have no idea where to turn.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (31 minutes after post)

First; Your boyfriend is bad news, I get the feeling you already know this but don’t know what to do about it. But I’ll continue any way. Its not bad that he requires you to pay down your debt before you two buy a house and have a family. In fact that is a good idea. However it is extremely telling that he expects you to not be on the lease, does he expect you to help save for the house? In a relationship you take the good with the bad, you take the risks together. It sounds as if he does not want to take a risk with you and how can that mean he is in love with you? In my opinion it can’t.

My wife sounds very much like you, not good with money and in many ways is a bad risk in that regard. But I would not think of having a house that she did not own with me, I wouldn’t even know why I needed a house if not to have it with her. Even recently I have turned over all control of our money and paying bills to her because I hope the responsibility will teach her to be better with money. A risk, but because I love her I am confident she will be able to handle it.

It sounds as if your boy friend has very little respect for you, sure you might be bad with money but I am sure there are a lot of good qualities with respecting. Also nothing you have written here would suggest you should loss respect for your bad qualities.

So once again your boyfriend is bad news; and if he is unwilling to change himself now, its only going to get worse (not better) in the future. I strongly advise you to rethink your relationship with him. In my opinion you shouldn’t want to have a house with him or even a family, even if you think you love him, love is not enough to bridge the gap he is creating.

Second; what to do about it is scary and simple at the same time. Move out of his/your apartment and find an apartment you can share with someone else. People do it all the time, they have websites dedicated to getting roommates together.

You can find an apartment to share closer to where you work, which will help with your car problems.

And if by some miracle you scare your boyfriend striate; he will see that you can take care of your self and that you don’t need him. That if he wants to be with you he will have to show you love because his stability is not enough

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (35 minutes after post)

annlovestars * wrote:
What is keeping you form applying for a job at a Zoo ?

The zoo has all these educational requirements, specifically graduate studies and internship hours either having to do with Biology, Zoology, Animal Behavior, or Botany. None of which I have. I don’t have the money to go back to school, and even if I did, I’d have to work full time to keep up with what I’m doing already in addition to going to school full time to qualify for loans. Friends have referred me, pointed out job openings, given me all sorts of resources, but the simple fact is that all my love of animals isn’t enough. I don’t have the degree or the experience, and that’s what they’re after.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (49 minutes after post)

annlovestars * wrote:
In the meantime keep on horseriding, and maybe also help out as a volunteer at an animal shelter to help out ?

I’m wary of committing to any more things that take up my time without monetary return. I work the horses for free simply so I can be out there, although I’ve been told it’s the kind of thing - once I get good at it - that I could possibly do for money, if not necessarily a living. I fence on Saturdays, again because it’s free and I like doing it, but I’ve considered dropping just so I can have more free time (and equipment does cost money to maintain). My boyfriend insists I can keep doing things I want to do, if I really want to do them, but it’s getting to the point where I’m submerging so deep into outside activities that it feels like I don’t have a life outside of the stuff I do. I can’t even recall the last time I had half a moment to myself without any obligations or pre-agreed places to be. I used to volunteer at a shelter some time ago before I moved, but now I think it would just be too hard: physically for the hours, mentally for the same reason, and emotionally because of the heartbreaking little faces all wanting a home to call their own.

That’s another thing: I’m having trouble seperating the suffering of others from myself. If someone is in a sad mood, I get depressed. If someone’s angry, I get scared. If someone is hurt, I hurt too. Even if it has nothing to do with me. I don’t know why, and it’s REALLY hard to deal with.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (53 minutes after post)

Da⌐11 wrote:
First; Your boyfriend is bad news

I don’t mean to make him sound like a bad guy. On the contrary, he’s been there for me through some of the most horrible things I can think of, and I owe him a lot of credit for helping me stay sane through some of the worst of it. He’s put up with my tantrums and emotional instability and unemployment stretches without flinching, and he’s as loyal as the day is long. He’s really a very awesome guy, but like everyone else, he does have flaws. His overprotective nature and bossiness are among those flaws.

We’ve nearly broken up once already, but neither of us want to do that. He’s hoping that I’ll get through this and move on, so that I’ll be the strong, capable woman he fell in love with, and not keep backsliding into this emotionally instable financial black hole that I’ve become.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

I have a cat and a fish. Granted, the fish is hard to cuddle, but the cat, for as fiesty and somewhat violent as she can be to other people, is never harsh toward me. She’s a nut, and sometimes does really dingbat things, but that’s okay.

As far as the boyfriend, he’s everything I ever really wanted. He’s loyal, honest, intelligent, creative, ambitious, driven, goal-oriented, romantic, sweet, funny, a gamer, a nerd, an avid reader, curious, passionate, handsome, protective, friendly, strong, and not such a slob that I can’t handle it (that WAS a point of incompatability in previous relationships). He makes me laugh, he aims for the smile, he acts silly if I’m sad just to cheer me up sometimes. He’s no-nonsense and very take-charge. The only drawback is that sometimes he’s so take-charge that he takes charge right over people, me included.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 8 minutes after post)

Aaka Wolf wrote:

Da⌐11 wrote:
First; Your boyfriend is bad news

I don’t mean to make him sound like a bad guy. On the contrary, he’s been there for me through some of the most horrible things I can think of, and I owe him a lot of credit for helping me stay sane through some of the worst of it. He’s put up with my tantrums and emotional instability and unemployment stretches without flinching, and he’s as loyal as the day is long. He’s really a very awesome guy, but like everyone else, he does have flaws. His overprotective nature and bossiness are among those flaws.

We’ve nearly broken up once already, but neither of us want to do that. He’s hoping that I’ll get through this and move on, so that I’ll be the strong, capable woman he fell in love with, and not keep backsliding into this emotionally instable financial black hole that I’ve become.

I’m sorry to tell you, stuff like that wares on you. It is not what make a good relationship. Yes everyone has their flaws, his unfortunately make having a relationship impossible. Here you are contemplating suicide in part because of it.

He is making you think you are a black hole, that is not healthy. No matter what he may have done to help you in the past, its still not healthy.

You need to leave him and be independent. He needs to see that you are strong and capable and he can’t do that if you don’t move out. He will continue to see you as he see’s you know. Even if you get things turned around completely he will feel he did that to you and with out him you’d go back to the same old.

If you stay with him it will end disasters I imagine.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 10 minutes after post)

annlovestars * wrote:
I understand that he is an ok person, regardless of that, you need to feel good about yourself, for yourself. Take a breath. If he is the person you say he is, he will let you take a moment for you to become you again.

He has been. This hasn’t been a short-lived problem: I’ve been feeling like this for over a year now, and it’s only getting worse. He’s been trying to be patient with me, but if I lived with me, I’d have given up on me long ago. He’s been losing his patience, and I completely cannot blame him.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 16 minutes after post)

[quote Da⌐11I’m sorry to tell you, stuff like that wares on you. It is not what make a good relationship. Yes everyone has their flaws, his unfortunately make having a relationship impossible. Here you are contemplating suicide in part because of it. He is making you think you are a black hole, that is not healthy. No matter what he may have done to help you in the past, its still not healthy. You need to leave him and be independent. He needs to see that you are strong and capable and he can’t do that if you don’t move out. He will continue to see you as he see’s you know. Even if you get things turned around completely he will feel he did that to you and with out him you’d go back to the same old. If you stay with him it will end disasters I imagine.[/quote]

But there’s more TO it than that. I don’t know why this posted in “Love Help”, but this isn’t really about him so much as it is about EVERYTHING. There is so much more going on than just my boyfriend not holding me capable. Why is everyone focusing on him? Nobody has said anything about the fcat that I recognize a need for therapy but can’t afford it, or that I want to find someone to talk to but don’t know where to go. Can we maybe address the everything else? My boyfriend is really only a very minor part of a much bigger problem that I can’t fully identify or comprehend.

I don’t mean to jump on you, but I feel like none of this is helping and if I don’t say something now it will only continue down the line that my conservative Catholic parents have been feeding me, which is “move home and we’ll fix it”. I don’t want to move home, I don’t want them to “fix” anything, I need to be able to do this myself and I’m not broken in the first place! I’m not leaving him, I’ve put way too much time and effort (and money) into making this better, and we are doing better. I believe whole-heartedly that I’m making the right choice. He isn’t the problem. His attitude is contributing, but he’s not the issue. Please, understand that.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 16 minutes after post)

Hi, I have also read your story. I dont know really how to help but I can just say I also have problems with stress and emotional problems. I think when one feels that there are many problematic things bunching together it can feel extra tough. You are mentioning the issues with your boyfriend, the car and maybe a little your job. And also you seem to have a pretty busy life, and commuting can be a little straneous too. Maybe the whole thing is getting a little overwhelming.

Maybe there are some chores/activities you could cut out and leave the ones you like, so it becomes a little more balanced. A psychologist I once had said that balance is good to have.

A psychologist or therapist seems to me like a real good idea. Ive gone to three in different periods of my life and it really helped getting things sorted out when it all felt overwhelming. The problem maybe is that they are expensive. Maybe there is some group-thearapy-group you could join, they shouldnt be too expensive.

Otherwise you seem like a real nice and caring person, and you are doing so many positive things, so you can really pat yourself on the back.

Oh well, dont know if this helps or not, i just wanted to write something maybe helpful. From Simon.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 17 minutes after post)

simon_wra wrote:
The problem maybe is that they are expensive. Maybe there is some group-thearapy-group you could join, they shouldnt be too expensive. Otherwise you seem like a real nice and caring person, and you are doing so many positive things, so you can really pat yourself on the back. Oh well, dont know if this helps or not, i just wanted to write something maybe helpful. From Simon.

I don’t suppose you have any suggestions for looking one up? I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 21 minutes after post)

annlovestars * wrote:
Well getting out of debts isn’t something that goes away overnight, he should now that. I’m sure that if you notice that those debts will decrease bit by bit, you will feel better more and more. As I can sense form all of this, you really needto take some time off and go do things YOU want.Try to like yourself agian, more, better :)Do little things that make you smile. Try to find an open space and just sit there.Listen to the silence.

Been trying that. All I ever seem to do is feel more anxious as time goes by. I know it’s silly, but if I take time to just sit and relax, I don’t relax, I get more stressed because there are all these things like the laundry needs folding or I should call so-and-so oh and the bills need to go out and the papers need filing and what about dinner and I forgot to wash those dishes and the garbage should go out and I really ought to put gas in the car and do I need to go to the store and and and… the list goes on. It’s like this little voice buzzing in my head that won’t shut up and I can’t seem to get a moment’s rest. There’s ALWAYS more to do, there’s ALWAYS something more important that I ought to be doing instead of sitting still. And when I go to bed I’m invariably kicking myself for not having done as much as I should.

It’s a terrible vicious cycle, but it just won’t stop, no matter how much I try to concentrate on how pretty the grass is or how slow I’ve made my breathing. I’m seriously wondering if I just need some form of sedative.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 26 minutes after post)

Aaka Wolf wrote:
But there’s more TO it than that. I don’t know why this posted in “Love Help”, but this isn’t really about him so much as it is about EVERYTHING. There is so much more going on than just my boyfriend not holding me capable. Why is everyone focusing on him? Nobody has said anything about the fcat that I recognize a need for therapy but can’t afford it, or that I want to find someone to talk to but don’t know where to go. Can we maybe address the everything else? My boyfriend is really only a very minor part of a much bigger problem that I can’t fully identify or comprehend.

I don’t mean to jump on you, but I feel like none of this is helping and if I don’t say something now it will only continue down the line that my conservative Catholic parents have been feeding me, which is “move home and we’ll fix it”. I don’t want to move home, I don’t want them to “fix” anything, I need to be able to do this myself and I’m not broken in the first place! I’m not leaving him, I’ve put way too much time and effort (and money) into making this better, and we are doing better. I believe whole-heartedly that I’m making the right choice. He isn’t the problem. His attitude is contributing, but he’s not the issue. Please, understand that.

I didn’t tell you to move home, that would only put your parents in the position your boyfriend now occupies. You should move out on your own.

Why am I focused on your boyfriend? Because as you explained it, he is the biggest problem that you have.

How do you fix your debt? Pay it off, make a budget and stick to it.

How do you get the job you want? Go to school for more training or chose another profession that is line with your current schooling.

As for your car; suck it up until your in a better situation.

But all of those are not as big a problem then a boyfriend who doesn’t want to share his life with you; who makes you feel like a black hole and who does not have any confidence in you. He may have done some great things for you, but that does not excuse the bad behavior. What’s more it does not excuse the fact that he is not willing to get himself help even though you have brought this to his attention in therapy.

You haven’t said the things he has done for you. I imagine a big one of those things is given you a place to run to when you left your family. But truthfully stuff like that is easy, even if it had a big impact on your life. Doing the things you need him to do now are harder but they are the things that truly show he loves you. He’s not doing them so you need to reevaluate your situation.

And hey I could be wrong, but my advice is still correct. You need to move out on your own. You need to learn to take care of your self and not have your parents or your boy friend take care of you. That’s the only way your going to show him you are the person he wants you to be. And if he does truly love you he will be forced to be the person you want him to be. If he doesn’t change, then you will know its not meant to be.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 31 minutes after post)

Aaka Wolf wrote:

annlovestars * wrote:
Well getting out of debts isn’t something that goes away overnight, he should now that. I’m sure that if you notice that those debts will decrease bit by bit, you will feel better more and more. As I can sense form all of this, you really needto take some time off and go do things YOU want.Try to like yourself agian, more, better :)Do little things that make you smile. Try to find an open space and just sit there.Listen to the silence.
Been trying that. All I ever seem to do is feel more anxious as time goes by. I know it’s silly, but if I take time to just sit and relax, I don’t relax, I get more stressed because there are all these things like the laundry needs folding or I should call so-and-so oh and the bills need to go out and the papers need filing and what about dinner and I forgot to wash those dishes and the garbage should go out and I really ought to put gas in the car and do I need to go to the store and and and… the list goes on. It’s like this little voice buzzing in my head that won’t shut up and I can’t seem to get a moment’s rest. There’s ALWAYS more to do, there’s ALWAYS something more important that I ought to be doing instead of sitting still. And when I go to bed I’m invariably kicking myself for not having done as much as I should.It’s a terrible vicious cycle, but it just won’t stop, no matter how much I try to concentrate on how pretty the grass is or how slow I’ve made my breathing. I’m seriously wondering if I just need some form of sedative.

What does your boyfreind do around the house?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 34 minutes after post)

annlovestars * wrote:
I think we are hitting the core a lot of things here.Sedatives I would only use if nothing else works.Do you like any sports, maybe cycling ?I think indeed you might need therapy first to learn how to focus on relaxing more.You should take like an half an hour a day, to just sit and listen to music,or bike somewhere.let all those thoughts come to you, and then, let them pass by.Let them sink in and release it again.

I’ve been trying to meditate every day for at least ten minutes. And if I actually DO manage to let go for a little while, within the next ten minutes I’m right back to being a stressed out ball of anxiety all over again. And I recognize that it’s a choice, I *choose* to let these things bother me, but it seems like I don’t know how NOT to choose that route, no matter how often I try. I swim sometimes, I ride horses, I fence, I spin yarn, I knit, I g for walk, it never lasts. It doesn’t even usually help past the first five minutes out. Invariably I start dwelling on all the other crap going on in my life.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (1 hour, 37 minutes after post)

Da⌐11 wrote:
What does your boyfreind do around the house?

It’s his job to make the bed, wash/rotate the laundry, put away the clean dishes, pick up his own stuff, and do the heavy lifting. He usually cooks because he knows how and I don’t. He does more but it’s lots of little things, like airing out the house and feeding my cat when I’m in a rush. I don’t even have to ask.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 13 minutes after post)

well,well, well.I am on your Boyfriends Side.Not because things happened to you ,no because you need to be taught to look and manage on your own.Forget zoo keeping for a while ,pay of your irresponsible Credit Cards.I would have understood if you borrowed the Money for a new Car ,but for other not necessary things ,NO.Do pay out your Debt on the cards as soon as possible even on your crummy Job at 15 bucks an Hour.No one is stopping you to relax by going and playing with Horses and its good for you.By the way7 i still love Horses been with them for almost thirty years .still miss them.Now Girl Aka Wolf think of nothing else but paying your Debts of.He is only trying to help in a good way ,what more can you ask for???

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 37 minutes after post)

slimline2 wrote:
He is only trying to help in a good way ,what more can you ask for???

I can ask that he not ask for something and then not let me provide it. I can ask that he not put pressure on me (when I already have plenty) to do something that is not financially responsible. Yes, I need to pay off my debts. But saving for a house? How on earth is that even a priority right now when I have so much to pay off?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 3 months ago (2 hours, 51 minutes after post)

do tell him what you are telling me and compromise if not well there is always a way out…

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