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Don’t bother reading this if you don’t care.
Ok a few points I’m gonna put out here….
1. Has anyone read the book, “Thanking the Monkey?” (I know, silly title, right?)
2. Does anyone else really CARE about creatures OTHER than humans?
3. Does anyone know how to make a change?
4. Any other thoughts, I guess…
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I love animals! I hate hunting. I use to be vegiterrian, but parents forced me to eat meat.
I get rele sad everytime I see a dead animal on the side of the road.
I wont smush bugs either.
lol. some are exceptions…lol.
How can your parents force you to eat meat? That’s ridiculous!
I swear there’s at least 1 roadkill every mile around here. I used to keep a log of the dead animals I saw, but eventually there were too many to keep up with… :P
well, when I am at my grandma’s house, they always have some kind of meat in their meal, like regualr people. but its homemade…
so my mom told me that I had to eat it from proper etaquitte…lol
o well..
lol
Im in the meat habit again though…lol.
lol ew…rele
I would feel to sad if I kept a log…
Repub or Demo? McCain is trying to remove the ban for oil drilling on the coast… :K
Dem…lol
I’m an artist/musician/dancer…lol w.e
so I have to support obama.
idk who to trust this year though lol.
Sweet
Yeah I know I wish people on the green party were bigger
I like to climb trees and read… And play computer…. :P I’m addicted to WOW.
lmfao
I used to be addcited to guild wars
didnt play wow because my ex. liked it.
but I love Kingdom HEarts
K well I have to go anyway…
Cya
In accordance with the Prophecy.
and teh SIMS2
idk how I think about that…
lol.
I heard that the places that they want to drill in America are harmless to us. and they are putting a lot of BS in the news…but who knows now a days.
yeah, i am totally for drilling. i dont like seeing people stand in the rain to catch buses because they cant afford gas. or my friends not being able to go to the school they want because they cant afford the gas to get to a farther away school. and heck, its alaska, its huge. how about you preserve some land for caribou where there isnt oil underneath it??
lol.
yea
I heard that the area that they wantto drill will be just a small hole, nothing to
distruptive…
idk.
it gets confusing
bluflames83 wrote:
what would be wrong with drilling for oil?
Holy sh**!
Why, I wonder….
mjcatdo wrote:
idk how I think about that…
lol.
I heard that the places that they want to drill in America are harmless to us. and they are putting a lot of BS in the news…but who knows now a days.
Ahem, yeah. Key word, US. Oh, sure it’s uninhabited. By humans. There’s plenty of other creatures out there that wouldn’t like it if we bashed in their homes.
mjcatdo wrote:
lol.
yea
I heard that the area that they wantto drill will be just a small hole, nothing to
distruptive…
idk.
it gets confusing
A small hole…
Meaning, like, 15,000 acres.
molotok wrote:
Get yourself a wagon, pulled by caribous…
What caribous?
They’re all dead, hunted down.
And what makes you think the caribous want to pull a wagon?
Why can’t you just get off your lazy butt and RIDE A BIKE?!?
bluflames83 wrote:
yeah, i am totally for drilling. i dont like seeing people stand in the rain to catch buses because they cant afford gas. or my friends not being able to go to the school they want because they cant afford the gas to get to a farther away school. and heck, its alaska, its huge. how about you preserve some land for caribou where there isnt oil underneath it??
I don’t like seeing seals and polar bears running for their lives, either.
And why is it that their lives are less important than us getting a car or going to a good school?
*Dies*
Now I’m sure the world is going to end.
settle down anon, clearly you’re an animal lover, but i have to ask, do you ride a bike? the thing is gas prices are really high, and when i can drive, i wont be able to afford it…and if all the caribous are hunted down, who cares if we drill?? and lots of places in california we have the rigs in place for getting oil, we just arent because its illegal, they’re just sitting there, rusting..personally, i dont care about caribou, because other than having a cool name, they dont do me any good…
I love animals, dont get me wrong…
I just heard this info from people from my family..goodness gracious. lol.
Im a pleasant person, not a life hater.
calm down.
mjcatdo wrote:
I love animals, dont get me wrong…
I just heard this info from people from my family..goodness gracious. lol.
Im a pleasant person, not a life hater.
calm down.
I know, sorry. I was just having a spaz atack… :P
bluflames83 wrote:
settle down anon, clearly you’re an animal lover, but i have to ask, do you ride a bike? the thing is gas prices are really high, and when i can drive, i wont be able to afford it…and if all the caribous are hunted down, who cares if we drill?? and lots of places in california we have the rigs in place for getting oil, we just arent because its illegal, they’re just sitting there, rusting..personally, i dont care about caribou, because other than having a cool name, they dont do me any good…
Well, ok… I still can’t deal with that. Sorry. I don’t know why, but I can’t understand your perspective. Just like you can’t understand mine. I wish you could.
I just… they don’t do you any good, ok. You don’t do the caricou any good, either.
In fact, quite the opposite…
Anonymous wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
settle down anon, clearly you’re an animal lover, but i have to ask, do you ride a bike? the thing is gas prices are really high, and when i can drive, i wont be able to afford it…and if all the caribous are hunted down, who cares if we drill?? and lots of places in california we have the rigs in place for getting oil, we just arent because its illegal, they’re just sitting there, rusting..personally, i dont care about caribou, because other than having a cool name, they dont do me any good…Well, ok… I still can’t deal with that. Sorry. I don’t know why, but I can’t understand your perspective. Just like you can’t understand mine. I wish you could.
I just… they don’t do you any good, ok. You don’t do the caricou any good, either.
In fact, quite the opposite…
i can try to understand your perspective, i have nothing against the caribou, other than that they want to live on top of black gold! how would you feel about moving some of them to greenland?? they should be happy there right?? and you cant deal with turning on the oil that we already have the platforms for????
bluflames83 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
settle down anon, clearly you’re an animal lover, but i have to ask, do you ride a bike? the thing is gas prices are really high, and when i can drive, i wont be able to afford it…and if all the caribous are hunted down, who cares if we drill?? and lots of places in california we have the rigs in place for getting oil, we just arent because its illegal, they’re just sitting there, rusting..personally, i dont care about caribou, because other than having a cool name, they dont do me any good…Well, ok… I still can’t deal with that. Sorry. I don’t know why, but I can’t understand your perspective. Just like you can’t understand mine. I wish you could.
I just… they don’t do you any good, ok. You don’t do the caricou any good, either.
In fact, quite the opposite…i can try to understand your perspective, i have nothing against the caribou, other than that they want to live on top of black gold! how would you feel about moving some of them to greenland?? they should be happy there right?? and you cant deal with turning on the oil that we already have the platforms for????
Nope. Sorry. I rea;;y try to understand your logic, but I just don’t get it. Why not remove th platforms and recycle the materials? Just building the platforms is not what causes all the damage.
And I’m sure YOU wouldn’t mind being relocated to Greenland? Not to mention loaded into a truck when you have no idea where you’re going or what’s going to happen when you get there?
Anonymous wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
settle down anon, clearly you’re an animal lover, but i have to ask, do you ride a bike? the thing is gas prices are really high, and when i can drive, i wont be able to afford it…and if all the caribous are hunted down, who cares if we drill?? and lots of places in california we have the rigs in place for getting oil, we just arent because its illegal, they’re just sitting there, rusting..personally, i dont care about caribou, because other than having a cool name, they dont do me any good…Well, ok… I still can’t deal with that. Sorry. I don’t know why, but I can’t understand your perspective. Just like you can’t understand mine. I wish you could.
I just… they don’t do you any good, ok. You don’t do the caricou any good, either.
In fact, quite the opposite…i can try to understand your perspective, i have nothing against the caribou, other than that they want to live on top of black gold! how would you feel about moving some of them to greenland?? they should be happy there right?? and you cant deal with turning on the oil that we already have the platforms for????
Nope. Sorry. I rea;;y try to understand your logic, but I just don’t get it. Why not remove th platforms and recycle the materials? Just building the platforms is not what causes all the damage.
And I’m sure YOU wouldn’t mind being relocated to Greenland? Not to mention loaded into a truck when you have no idea where you’re going or what’s going to happen when you get there?
lq2m….the world is great isnt it?? we get to compare ideas like this…why would we remove the platforms?? they’re already there, removing them would be stupid, because we would be wasting something we already have installed…..how can removing oil in the ground be damaging?? we’re recycling dead fish that died over a million years ago and got turned into oil…..
and the caribou could be happy there.. they dont have a map, they dont know where they are now, probably…are you against zoos too?? we took animals out of the wild in a truck, and put them in a cage!! thats got to be worse than letting them live freely…..and the alternative to letting them live in greenland would be killing them, or making their lives bad with our oil equipment…
and!! zoos have no benefit, other than our entertainment..we dont even get oil from it….
bluflames83 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
settle down anon, clearly you’re an animal lover, but i have to ask, do you ride a bike? the thing is gas prices are really high, and when i can drive, i wont be able to afford it…and if all the caribous are hunted down, who cares if we drill?? and lots of places in california we have the rigs in place for getting oil, we just arent because its illegal, they’re just sitting there, rusting..personally, i dont care about caribou, because other than having a cool name, they dont do me any good…Well, ok… I still can’t deal with that. Sorry. I don’t know why, but I can’t understand your perspective. Just like you can’t understand mine. I wish you could.
I just… they don’t do you any good, ok. You don’t do the caricou any good, either.
In fact, quite the opposite…i can try to understand your perspective, i have nothing against the caribou, other than that they want to live on top of black gold! how would you feel about moving some of them to greenland?? they should be happy there right?? and you cant deal with turning on the oil that we already have the platforms for????
Nope. Sorry. I rea;;y try to understand your logic, but I just don’t get it. Why not remove th platforms and recycle the materials? Just building the platforms is not what causes all the damage.
And I’m sure YOU wouldn’t mind being relocated to Greenland? Not to mention loaded into a truck when you have no idea where you’re going or what’s going to happen when you get there?lq2m….the world is great isnt it?? we get to compare ideas like this…why would we remove the platforms?? they’re already there, removing them would be stupid, because we would be wasting something we already have installed…..how can removing oil in the ground be damaging?? we’re recycling dead fish that died over a million years ago and got turned into oil…..
and the caribou could be happy there.. they dont have a map, they dont know where they are now, probably…are you against zoos too?? we took animals out of the wild in a truck, and put them in a cage!! thats got to be worse than letting them live freely…..and the alternative to letting them live in greenland would be killing them, or making their lives bad with our oil equipment…
I suppose so. I just wish we hadn’t installed them in the first place!
And I kinda agree… I sometimes enjoy arguing… :P Tho we’re not really arguing
And I dunno, just all the fish will we killed by the fumes and then the oil will be transported and it’s just another excuse for ppl to use oil for gas
bluflames83 wrote:
and!! zoos have no benefit, other than our entertainment..we dont even get oil from it….
At least we agree on one thing. :)
ok anon, so we agree that zoos are stupid. that we should use the oil rigs we already have set up because we cant rewind time to make them not be installed, and taking them down would be pointless….but…you dont want to kill fish..umm fish are everywhere, i think we could spare a few fish….theres so many of them..and until i figure out hydrogen powered cars, we’ll have to settle for oil…..
*Ahem*
(This is from a viable source, by the way)
In an article published in SCIENCE, ecologists projected “all commercial fish and seafood species will collapse by 2048.”
There you go.
And…
“Hundreds of millions of fish are caught on long lines each year. Miles of lines, with baited hooks, are dargged behind boats. Once hooked, instead of being immediately dragged aboard (to suffocate slowly), the fish are left alive, struggling at the end of the hooks until the trip is finished and the lines are pulled aboard - often sometime the next day.”
And…
“A story on the front page of Florida’s HERALD TRIBUNE informed readers that masses of dead mullet can be found floating in the waters off the coast. Female mullet, valued for their roe, fetch five to ten times the price of male mullet, so fisherman dump the dead males in the water in order to make more room on their boats for females.”
And…
In response to the director of pro-angling group who said it was all supposition that fish are able to feel pain until we have proper, “bona fide evidence,” Olbermann said, “Try jamming one of your fish hooks in your lip and see how bona fide that feels.”
That enough for you? I have more, if you want. :) *grins evilly*
dont get me wrong, fish are great…i have a fish in my room, they go glub glub……as for fish running out, thats bad, but by then we will be cloning fish in the thousands and eating them…lemme guess, you’re against cloning??
bluflames83 wrote:
dont get me wrong, fish are great…i have a fish in my room, they go glub glub……as for fish running out, thats bad, but by then we will be cloning fish in the thousands and eating them…lemme guess, you’re against cloning??
i like fish that go glub glub!
teehee :P
Cloning sounds so creepy, but it could be useful..
Im not sure of all the things that are done to do it tho…
seafood is my favorite food…:( I just wont eat the glub glub fish…lol
mjcatdo wrote:
bluflames83 wrote:
dont get me wrong, fish are great…i have a fish in my room, they go glub glub……as for fish running out, thats bad, but by then we will be cloning fish in the thousands and eating them…lemme guess, you’re against cloning??i like fish that go glub glub!
teehee :PCloning sounds so creepy, but it could be useful..
Im not sure of all the things that are done to do it tho…seafood is my favorite food…:( I just wont eat the glub glub fish…lol
yeah, i dont like seafood, but thats not because i feel bad for the fish that im eating…unless its a glub glub fish as you want to call it : )
i thought it was funny what you said&