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Not to sound mean but Why do christians dont believe in evolution when there is proff that it happens, but theres not real proff of a god …

just stories
(Not all Christian people are like this but the most of them)

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lil_Mouse6 offline Verified User (6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 minute after post)

yea but Ahhh Everything changes were not RIght from ‘god’ …if we were then we woudl all be the same thing we woudlnt grow up or grow old

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Neutra offline Verified User (4 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 83 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (5 minutes after post)

The most reasonable thing to do is to believe in both, humans both came from god and evolved from monkeys. Or to not believe in either one, no scienticic evidence in religion and science can’t explain everything. Either way, there is no right awnser.

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TriumphAlice offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

Because believing in something bigger than oneself makes a person feel less alone, and more apart of something. However, many Christian take the Bible very literally, without room for change or reason. Such as Genesis. God describes creating the universe, the earth, and the beings on it in only seven days. God follows no time, nor was it measured. It was written like so, so that we can understand it better. Many people don’t get it.

Personally I believe God created the earth and all beings to evolve. Win-win situation.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

i mean like you talk to some christian people and they dont even want to Hear the world evolve

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
Littleton, CO, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

it is an evol sounding word

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (13 minutes after post)

As you said, not all Christians believe in literal interpretation, though. Christianity throughout time has naturally resisted change. As time goes on, more of evolution or another theory that hasn’t been proposed yet will become more verified than that theory is now. (I’m not saying that evolution is not true, just that there are still enough holes that I can understand people still looking at different points of view) , more and more sects of Christianity will begin to embrace these ideas not as separate from religion but as a part of religion. More and more Christian faiths now believe that evolution is a definite possibility. Many doctrines teach that God in fact STARTED evolution. Just give people time to catch up.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (14 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:

lil_Mouse6 wrote:
i mean like you talk to some christian people and they dont even want to Hear the world evolve

Right. SOME people say SOME things or don’t want to hear some things but that does not mean that ALL Christians feel that way. You’re being very general and labeling a huge group of people based on certain people’s actions, belief’s or opinions.

YEA if u were to READ MY FIRST POST i said that some are like that…read before u start Bitchin

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jmp345 offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (16 minutes after post)

Wow. Evolution started an argument… who would’ve seen that coming?

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TriumphAlice offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (16 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:
Well READ the TITLE of YOUR post and then UNDERSTAND what I am SAYING.

He did put a disclaimer. “(Not all Christian people are like this but the most of them)”.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
Littleton, CO, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (16 minutes after post)

IT’s not really “Christians”. It’s just some people’s parents, who would rather not say that their offspring might be “better” than them, they’d rather have it be that the originators, the creators were the “better” ones.

That’s just a guess.

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TriumphAlice offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (20 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:
Oops once again I tried to enter into an intelligent discussion but then was freaked out on by the person who started the conversation. Sorry for the intrusion. Carry on.

You are formally known as “help.mod”, am I correct?

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lil_Mouse6 offline Verified User (6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (21 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:
Oops once again I tried to enter into an intelligent discussion but then was freaked out on by the person who started the conversation. Sorry for the intrusion. Carry on.

then READ THE POST FIRST BEFORE U REPLY

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:
I’m currently known as go take a flying f**n leap off a bridge. As far as my name change goes it was my choice. I’m done with these religious threads here. The a***ole to mature person ratio is way too great. If I wanted to argue with a bunch of little sh*ts I’d head to the toilet.

don’t get yourself so worked up… people disagree but don’t let it get under your skin.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
Littleton, CO, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (27 minutes after post)

Dear God/dess, please let this conversation evolve into a gloriously rational and scientifically provable discussion. Amen.

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TriumphAlice offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (29 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:
I’m currently known as go take a flying f**n leap off a bridge. As far as my name change goes it was my choice. I’m done with these religious threads here. The a***ole to mature person ratio is way too great. If I wanted to argue with a bunch of little sh*ts I’d head to the toilet.

I apologize for asking a simple question, however, I did anticipate such a response from you. As for the a**holes, I believe you started being rude and cursing first. Be the change that you want to see.

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jmp345 offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (36 minutes after post)

Ok. Due to the discovery of Lucy, at least some parts of evolution have been verified. If nothing else, it has been acknowledged that a mid-order of primates did at one time exist on this planet. Hardly on topic with the original question but, as a starting point: Can we agree on this?

Then if at least this much is public about evolution, we can reasonably determine that ignoring this physical evidence is a matter of personal choice. As humans, we value and respect personal choice. So, I don’t know why some don’t believe in even basic evolution, but it’s their business.

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jmp345 offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (42 minutes after post)

If it is forced, than it’s not a personal choice. Parents are obligated to teach their children what they believe to be the truth. If the children reject it on their own, it is then the parents obligation to support the child and answer whatever questions they may have to the best of their abilities.

Sounds reasonable, right?

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
Littleton, CO, US | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (44 minutes after post)

jmp345 wrote:
Wow. Evolution started an argument… who would’ve seen that coming?

That tends to happen in these controversial discussions, but re-reading it looks like there just happened to be some miscommunication and chaos on this post, no doubt unintelligently designed by satan.

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TriumphAlice offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (45 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:
no doubt unintelligently designed by satan.

That tricky bastard.

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jmp345 offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (50 minutes after post)

While it is rarely practiced, knowledge is often the best cure for what can only be diagnosed as a broken practice. By educating ourselves to opposing viewpoints, maybe the freedom to make a personal choice will not be so uncommon.

And there is no doubt that satan is trying to poison this site. He was probably trying to type in hell and instead of hitting the second “l” accidentally jabbed the p button above and to the right with his huge satan claw. after doing this, he decided that all sites having to do with “help” must be destroyed so that people would easier come to “hell”

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (52 minutes after post)

jmp345 wrote:

And there is no doubt that satan is trying to poison this site. He was probably trying to type in hell and instead of hitting the second “l” accidentally jabbed the p button above and to the right with his huge satan claw. after doing this, he decided that all sites having to do with “help” must be destroyed so that people would easier come to “hell”

Touche.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (58 minutes after post)

have you ever heard of the driving acronym SIPDE? (Search, Identify, Predict, Decide, Excecute)

A similar process can be used both ways

S earch deeper for either the child’s reason for rejecting or reason for affirming. With

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour after post)

With children, a surface reason is not always accurate

I dentify with the child’s decision and attempt to identify any logical errors, either way helping the child to understand their OWN decision might help them.

P redict how the child and the parents might respond to criticism or rejection from either side, as a parent you’re not always used to having your child reject your teachings

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

D ecide on a mediation tactic that can mutually help all parties involved grow as individuals and accept individual choices, no matter how large.

E xcecute. Make sure that both parties excecute changes in their actions and ways of dealing with each other to be respectful and supporting.

I hope this helped.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (1 hour, 19 minutes after post)

Well, goodnight. It’s 2:41 AM at my house near Philadelphia right now. I hope I’ve helped on this topic.

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zebra_rachel offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
Cambridge, NS, CA | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (6 hours, 14 minutes after post)

I’m a Christian and I beleive in both evolution, and creationism. It’s because in the bible no one ever said exactly what a human was like, maybe we were alot more like monkeys back then and when we were sent out of Eden perhaps we started to evolve. The reason I don’t beleive in evolution and science alone is because though some of it makes sense how did it all start to happen…if there was a big bang then what caused it, my friend told me something about atoms hitting together or something like that, but how did the atoms get there? I think that there must of been some higher power helping everything along, and the one I chose to beleive in is the Christian God.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 4 weeks ago (12 hours, 10 minutes after post)

The bottom line is that evolution “is not” true, but schools are still teaching it in the classrooms blindly. there is enough proof of god in the world but most are blinded by their own sutbborness. look at the universe. any complete fool cannot that god does exist if you consider the situation that we are in today on our planet. do you realize that if we were just 100 metres closer to the sun we would burn and if we were 100 meres further we would freeze. now 100 metres in space is nothing, but just a mere 100 metres in either directoin could cause a catastrophic change within our world. yet there are brainwashed scientist who admit the “big bang” existed.

Another thing, darwin was a fool to believe evolution existed. animals do not adapt to their environment and there is no proven scientific fact of this at all. that is why it is called the evolution theory. in today’s day and age after centuries, there is no proof that we came from apes at all.

Do you realize that all the predictions in the bible came true, and some are yet to come. anyone who picks up a bible with an open mind and reads it cover to cover will realize that no “man” could have written such a book withou an inspiration from god. the bible contains spcific details about the earth being round before columbus ever discovered it for himself. it also states the existence of spaceships describing them as “gods from the skies which rode in chariots of burning metal”. the bible contains what is still to come.

Read the bible and then, and only then, judge for yourself the existence of god.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (15 hours, 13 minutes after post)

help.4u wrote:
First off, I “believe” in evolution. Secondly, there is no “scientific” proof of evolution. There has never been one case where one species has been proven to ever have evolved into another. With that said, I still do believe that evolution is good science and the theories behind it are correct, and that “scientific” proof of that is inevitable. But no, it does not exist as hard evidence yet.

I am also Christian. There are many BIGOTS on this site. A lot of them do not realize they are bigots. Most of them would have to look up what bigot even means.

It’s ironic (and tragic) that you make statistical claims like “most Christians” when you have no basis in fact to back up that stupid comment in your post about a scientific theory. That grouping together of people in a prejudiced, uninformed and in fact incorrect way is what bigotry is and it does nothing but promote hatred against the group you are prejudiced against. I don’t know if that’s what you had in mind. But it is what you’ve done.

And I am done trying to discuss religion on this site. I’m not going to fight with bigots. I’ll just go back to trying to giving good advice and cracking stupid jokes here and there. Enjoy.

Again READ WHAT I PUT stupid ***

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
Littleton, CO, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (18 hours, 33 minutes after post)

Your repeated insistence that there is a “help.com” is growing tiresome. We shall have to adjust your medications if you cannot find the strength within yourself to let go of this dangerous delusion.

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jmp345 offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (21 hours, 22 minutes after post)

Michael Leibman wrote:
Your repeated insistence that there is a “help.com” is growing tiresome. We shall have to adjust your medications if you cannot find the strength within yourself to let go of this dangerous delusion.

Wow. What a response.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (10 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
Littleton, CO, US | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (21 hours, 29 minutes after post)

At least I didn’t pick on anyone for their stupidity.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 day, 4 hours after post)

you’re both being pretty childish if you ask me.

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TriumphAlice offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (1 day, 19 hours after post)

EVERYONE is.

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jmp345 offline Verified User (2 months, 4 weeks) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months, 3 weeks ago (3 days, 1 hour after post)

The response may come a bit late but just so you know, I didn’t mean for my response to be an insult.

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