suffering from depression and opiate mental withdrawels, feal empty no drive left, hit bottom, how do i get up and just start life?
? At bottom way toooo long
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if you were using opiates, this is probably the reason you feel so ******.
You may need to go to rehab, I doubt anything that anyone says here will make that withdrawl feeling go away
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Be aware of your mood and take remedial steps when you first feel your mood begin to slip.
Don’t feel like a failure if you need prescription medication. Depression is an illness just like diabetes or any other other. It is not always within your control.
no, past that, 1 yr ago i did and i realize its not an option so its like below that, just stuck on bottom
been to rehab just havent been to meetings,yess i know this is not good
think i should be on suboxonet, does anyone know alot about it ? I know a little
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go to the meetings, and if your still on opiates try and get some medication to help get you off…maybe smoke some bud instead if you really get the urge.
If your really at rock bottom, just remind yourself that means things cant get any worse, so they can only get better, but you gotta try.
I was in the same sort of situation not to long ago, I had to make myself realize most of my problems were my own fault, and if I didnt get my **** together and try to fix anything, id sit at the bottom forever. Things are finally starting to look up a little bit now, and if things can get better for someone like me they definitely can for you
Pot has been INCREDIBLY medicinal but it seems it only works for the mental crap and while im stoned i feel better but cant function much (may be thats just in my head not sure) but this has been going on for awhile so ive been paying alot of attention to the situation, and when it weres off i just go mental again therefore not functioning straight either
obviously i need pro health but im trying really hard to start taking matters into my own handsso i can get help, I think im paranoid also or something have a hard time going anywhere for awhile
weed can take a little getting used to if you dont smoke it a lot, it can be harder to function.
the type of bud is a factor too, if its crappy regular stuff, itll make you tired and all the typical stoner stereotypes. but some real nice bud, preferably of a sativa, is just a head high, great for being active and doing things, it actually helps me a lot.
sometimes you just gotta keep reassuring yourself. for example I developed anxiety out of nowhere for some reason, and I would get all paranoid/worried about the stupidest things, I had to keep reminding myself theres nothing to worry about im being stupid, or I have things under control, and it worked pretty well. it also helps if im feeling depressed and my mind wanders off to much, I make myself realise its happening, so I can stop it.
youd be suprised how far a little willpower and introspect goes
very little personal experiance but readily available but it must be regular stuff because if i could just function on it all probs solved
another good thing I forgot to mention, if your completely stoned and start thinking “im to high to do this” or things like that, dont think about how high you are, just go about your business.
sounds really stupid, but many people recommended that to me and it seriously works.
visene is also a miracle, gets the red out and snaps you out of it a bit.
Yessssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is excactly what happens everytime!
i’m trying to follow the conversation here but not sure what the origional post was.. wanna fill me in on it?
click on my wildflower picture then on the post that starts with the opiate mental withdrawels
your page should scroll up but if it doesnt…..
yeppers i found it.. this is my first time on here.. checking it out.. i have had depression all my life and sometimes it’s good to talk to someone that has worked through it or is still working around it
so you where on med’s and came off the… and now you smoking weed?
thats why im here, got so bad that in order to get the help i need ive got to be able to leave the house. yes came off pain meds oxycontin etc (through a doc believe it or not) and its about 3mnths clean and diagnosed depressed to boot. pot does help but i know its not the true answer
have you looked at your life to see if there is an underlying reason for you feeling depressed?
OH YEAH, I kinda think that is the hardest part … I know im going through that now
ok what is the hardest part?
do you have problems in your life.. or in the past..?
i deal with it.. i mainly have good days.. on occasion i have a realy bad day.. but i know once i get throught that day the next day it’s much better and i work on the imporvments from there.. excersise realy helps.. keeping busy.. trying not to think to much..
the hardest part is dealing with the emotions that come from analizing my life ie.why am i depressed
sometimes yes you have to take a good look at yourself and see where you are going wrong, but you should never over analize things.. it just makes it confusing
funny you shoud say that. Im known to OVER analize EVERYTHING
sometimes taking a good look at your life is what you need at the time to get it in order .. but if it becomes an every day thing . thats not good.. and the weed does not help it just backs it off..
you need to get off it all and it’s not easy and will take time. give yoruself that time and if you still feel bad .. you realy need to seek medical help to get on some kind of med’s to help correct the imballance in your brain
been taking seroquel vry small dose about 6 months, Its def. not working, i have to have my doctor try something else now, prob is making app., actually going, not backing out and just not leaving the house for days
i really appriciate the advice thanx it does help tostart socialing somewhere
sorry i had to run out and catch the post man.. lol
oh god yes.. seroquel was on of the three i had to take..they where convinced i was bi polar.. had me on all sorts of pills.. would have to dig into my memory to remember what they where.. they helped but they make you feel like a zombie.. ended up i couldnt afford to go to the doc’s so i weaned myself off them ..
what got you from point A (depressed, recognizing it,) to point B (can actually look back on it (even if it meens you only recently can look back)).
..they diagnosed me as borderline personality disorder, …dont be scared its not like multiple personality disorder , lol
so tell me what that is.. borderline personality disorder..
well, theres like 10 criteria, fear of abondonment, depression, usually loss of a parent before 15 yrs old, some type of self destructive behavior (drugs), ive got to think what
how old are you?
so you been struggling with this for a while.. i’m 51 so i know how you feel
yes, too long now Ive hit bottom and have been there for a while cant take it anymore so i resorted to sitting in front of my computer last night and typed in the search engine the word HELP, and here i am today
yeah i found this by accident and decided to take a look.. i’m reading on the net on borderline personality disorder. not an easy thing to treat
from my own exp. doesnt seem remotely easy at all, to complicate things there is a chemical change that happens in your brain when you abuse opiates so i really need to be on suboxone also
never showed up for that appt.,,,,time to get out of the house now for real so i can start going to these things. Just have to not think about it and go
i know what you mean when i am at my worst the last thing i want to do is go and talk to someone about my problems.. or even let them know i have a problem..
but these doc’s are there to help, and you need to look at it that way.
look at yourself like a child going to an adult for help, they have the experience and the answers needed to get you through it.
they arnt there to judge you, they are there to help.
I know if that was my job i would be so happy to see a patient of mine getting better and starting to enjoy life.
and your right.. get up get dressed.. dont think about it .. and go out. it can be fun sometimes doing it that way.
i cant believe someone out there actually understands being that far down you just cant make yourself get up and go, wow
get this, I have a seperate doctor for mental health, the suboxone(has to be liscenced for suboxone), and my family doctor who put me on the oxycontin to begin witth
i know what you mean.. it’s the same here.. im in florida..and you cant go to a general doctor for med’s you have to go to a mental health clinic.
but i’m from england.. and when i had problems there, no problem at, your gp will prescribe it.. but of course you dont have the problem of having to pay for medical health there.
there is always hope, but at the end of the day you are the one that has to make the first move. You have to get up and go do it.
Im from pa, do you like it there? Ive wanted to move there for yrs but i share joint custody 3 kds and ex lives here, love to garden and this is a major issue with my depression living here because my passion is outside
why can you not do anything outside in the garden? i’m not good with the states shortned like that.. where is PA…lol
Pennsylvania, the pocones northeast, the summer growing season is very short, I think i just gave up doing the things i love. I should learn how to adjust my life so i can still do these things all year long somehow,
well i lived in england for 41 years, up the north east where summers are very short also.. what you need to do is go to the store and look for plants, flowers or whatever you want in your garden, look for a more hardy species.
I had two rock gardens and a huge pond in england.. and of course roses.. lol a garden wouldnt be the same without roses.. they are hardy and beautifull when they flower..
in the back of the garden we had a greenhouse,
grew tomatoes and everything in it.. was good fun.
if there is a will there is a way… lol
I used to have flower gardens and vegetable gardens i loved the spring and summer but from september through june ya need your heet on and I get bad cabin fever by the end of winter what made you move to Florida
even though its cold, raining, snowing, whatever the weather go do something small in the garden. I used to have to go out and break the ice no the pond otherwise my fish would die… i had a heater in the green house so i could grow things in it so i spent some time there. Dont let the weather stop you getting out in the garden.
I moved from Uk to america in 2000… lived in washington state..then moved to mesa in arizona..then pinellas park in florida back to tucson in arizona and back to florida..lol
work..save and experience life..
my kids are all grown up so i can do this .. but i know you prob have younger kids and you cant do that kind of thing.
Florida isnt that good to grow things.. we are on the coast.. the soil is sand..lol
the temperature is to high..even the humidity is bad..
yes you can grow all sorts of things.. even bromeliads..lol which i failed misserably in the uk..
but takes a special kind of person to be able to work outside in that heat in the garden.. So the garden here is very basic.. tree’s and grass… lol
but i find my fun in doing other things..
how did you get to each new state? through friends, or work how did you just decide to move to each differant place?
friends mainly..i live with freinds now.. to expensive to have your own place here in america and survive on your own… there are seven of us.. myself, my daughter.. my friend and her husband…they have two adult kids and we have a guy that lodges with us and we all just move together..
can be fun..lol
the move isnt so fun, lot of work and stress, looking for a place to live, looking for work..etc etc..
are you on your own or do you live with your kids..boyfriend?
well i got tired of the cold.. living in uk for all those years..lol
arizona is nice n hot.. but dry heat.. florida is nice n hot, humid heat..
stay south.. maybe go somewhere along the panhandle or across the southern part of usa.. no real decision..
we all talk.. decide where would be nice to go and then save up to do it..
takes some time to save.. you need to have relocation money..
relocating isnt cheap..
I have to go to the store..
been fun talking to you..
dont let it get you down..
get out there and do it.. you only live once.
boyfriend and i have joint custody of my kids, b ut Im ashamed and terrably heartbroken about it the kids 13.12,and a 9 yr old boy just kinda drifted to their grammas house and in all reality i hate to say it they mostly live their for the last year
if your really into gardening, you can still grow things indoor, I would know ;)
hydroponics is pretty neat, and fun. lots of learning to do and it keeps you busy.
being a guy, liking gardening sounds wierd but its actually pretty sweet doing it inside, its almost like your a god to the plants, you can create an environment for them that provides better then the earth does naturally :)
Hi to you, and keep on going it will get better.
On this matter I can speak from my own experience. Having being on Morph for over 10yrs, as prescribed for pain. (I had crushed my spine and the only treatment I was ever given, were drugs of many kinds) To qualify this a little better, “Thirty years” of medication. I do believe the depression was the worst of the side effects (in hindsight) although my body had altered to live with the drug dependency.
I did end up working out a re-balance program for my mind and therefore my emotional state.
- Keep a running diary (very brief daily notes) as i weened myself off the drugs.
- High dose “OMEGA 3″ 6thousand mg of the essential fatty acids, daily (for 6 months) then down to 3 thou per day (for 2 years) This will work for your emotional self as well as the other benefits. (NO omega 6)
- A product called “CAA” which is obtainable in NZ and Austrailia (worth having a look at the website healthhouse.co.nz> and a good read) this helped my body to re-balance.
- The main issue I experienced was re-learning how and what my emotions were. For no apparent reason I would have rushes of feeling ( totally floor me at the time )
- This is where the note books I had filled up would come in so very valuable,
**Do remember to keep every entry to a simple fact**. I would only read what i had written after some months, giving me a bench mark of how far I had come. Proving to myself that this was working.
- Make a solid commitment to self with a set date time frame (I used a date one year ahead)
- Do not judge yourself on success or failure as there is only “your” balance (at this time you’re thinking will work against making a fair and honest self-assessment).
*** - Now this is the important bit. You need to have a doctor who knows what you are doing and your reasons for doing so. this for me (when i found one who agreed with what my choices were) was the key to success. And it was not my doctor.
PUT INTO YOUR MIND A MARKER THAT YOU WILL NEVER GO BACK TO, and start going towards a healthy mind and life :-)
ok I must say that is probably the best looking advice anyone ever gave me! Im looking at the sight now
The guy who runs health house is fantastic to ask questions of. Anytime you want to chat you are welcome.
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ok I must say that is probably the best looking advice anyone ever gave me! Im looking at the sight now
sure is.Ive been oxycontin for 2 years and then methadone for 1 year.Right not im about a month off of daily methadone.Even though im off it,withdrawls are gone.im unhappy on a daily basis,i smoke pot and drink,it helps .But unfortunatly all can think about is the lack of money to pay my bills ,and the absence of company.
It Sux big time ,i just want to wake up and be happy again.I make it through work day,but again,im just not happy ,,Your not alone.,…..
Hey airmanfirs,
So what are “you” doing about your “lack” of money? How about spend it on getting your brain (naturaly) re-ballenced.
So just how physically able are you? How about putting it out there :-)
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