I believe in the Easter Bunny. (peace be upon him)
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1 year, 2 months ago (8 minutes after post)
If that is in the Quran then why do some muslims call christians infidels?
Jesus was a muslim prophet as well as the christian messiah.
christianity, islam and judaism are all based on the same doctrine that developed in the same place (middle east) over a period of time.
its a pity they spend so much time killing each other
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1 year, 2 months ago (13 minutes after post)
wavertreebo wrote:
Jesus was a muslim prophet as well as the christian messiah.
christianity, islam and judaism are all based on the same doctrine that developed in the same place (middle east) over a period of time.
its a pity they spend so much time killing each other
Pity — yes.
Jesus was NOT a muslim. His teachings are WAY different.
of course he wasnt a muslim, he wouldnt have even called himself a christian. He was a jewish rabi
I believe in myself (Peace be upon me).
Mainly God!
We all give him different names and even though we may follow the same religion, each of us has a different perception of God, who he is what he is like (the fact that I am reffering to God in the male persona is a kind of perception), how forgiving and helpful he is…
The main thing that we all believe in is that God is good and he loves us all, no matter who we are and how we follow him…
yes religions are basically all rooted in similar ideals. it is weird how everyone thinks *their* religion is better. Humans fight because they want to fight and use religion as the excuse.
wavertreebo wrote:
of course he wasnt a muslim, he wouldnt have even called himself a christian. He was a jewish rabi
Not true either. He was the Messiah. If a rabi the jews would have accepted him.
he was jewish, but not a rabbi.
i was under the impression that the deciples reffered to him as rabbi
messiah was a jewish concept - they obviously denied him
zaphod wrote:
yes religions are basically all rooted in similar ideals. it is weird how everyone thinks *their* religion is better. Humans fight because they want to fight and use religion as the excuse.
Well not because they want to fight…
Fighting is a response to many things, insecurity… greed… lust…
Religion is a good way to disguise all these problems…
wavertreebo wrote:
i was under the impression that the deciples reffered to him as rabbi
Yes they did!
and for most of his time preaching he was considered a rabbi by the jews and some other people who didnt believe he was the messiah…
The conflict occured regarding that…
wavertreebo wrote:
i was under the impression that the deciples reffered to him as rabbi
Not a rabbi as in “just another Jewish teacher”. But “rabbi” was simply their word for teacher or master, which He definitely was.
dav wrote:
wavertreebo wrote:
i was under the impression that the deciples reffered to him as rabbi
Not a rabbi as in “just another Jewish teacher”. But “rabbi” was simply their word for teacher or master, which He definitely was.
Yup!
R.A.M wrote:
zaphod wrote:
yes religions are basically all rooted in similar ideals. it is weird how everyone thinks *their* religion is better. Humans fight because they want to fight and use religion as the excuse.
Well not because they want to fight…Fighting is a response to many things, insecurity… greed… lust…Religion is a good way to disguise all these problems…
But I’m sure religion teaches them how to deal with conflict. Some religions teach different ways.
well presumably rabbi had the same meaning at the same time in Jerulalem for both jesus and other rabbis - so he was a rabbi
zaphod wrote:
R.A.M wrote:
zaphod wrote:
yes religions are basically all rooted in similar ideals. it is weird how everyone thinks *their* religion is better. Humans fight because they want to fight and use religion as the excuse.
Well not because they want to fight…Fighting is a response to many things, insecurity… greed… lust…Religion is a good way to disguise all these problems…
But I’m sure religion teaches them how to deal with conflict. Some religions teach different ways.
dont really think so…
these zealots just mangle what is written to squeeze sumthing out which goes with whatever plans they have in their minds…
Normally religion does teach this,
But people twist these things and use the twisted perception to effect others and change their perception as well
Then they are not real followers of religion.
A very good example is the present war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan…
The people of the middle east see the U.S and its allies as invaders coming into their land mainly out of greed for their oil, now a few of them twist this and show the allies as mainly followers of evil mainly acting upon greed and other beliefs attacking their faith with the goal of destroying it…
Now even Bush has used the term Crusades to wipe out those who use terror to disrup the world…
The worst part is this becomes a horrible spiral where everyone is trying to destroy each other because of something the other did../
This is where forgiveness comes in and to this one has to be strong… not in military might, but the might to rebuild what was lost and to become even stronger and have the strenght to forgive…
Well… here is what Jesus meant by “turning the other cheek…”
I believe in Jesus I am a Christian.
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1 year, 2 months ago (1 hour, 21 minutes after post)
PomPom wrote:
well as a muslim i do believe that the original message of jesus was from god as he was a messenger of god but then the people after jesus added to and took away so much from the truth that then god had to send another messenger with his instructions for mankind, but this time the rules were made much stricter and it was called islam, but everyone believes what they do and i think we would be better off strengthening our own selves before we even go questioning what other people believe, if you believe in the easter bunny or yourself or whatever then go ahead.. if you believe it with your heart, it is true for you, the world is full of idiots like bush shaming the name of humanity let alone what race or religion he is … just make sure whatever you believe, that you have common sense which is in world shortage at the moment
So your God wasn’t good enough to get it right the first time, men outsmarted him?
My God got it right the first time with Jesus.
The folks who flew jets into buildings and attacked my country 7 years ago believed in the Quran and Mohammad so I struggle with folks who are Muslim I some friends who are Muslim so I’ve made efforts to understand as well but its hard sometimes.
All of the spiritual masters are at the same spiritual level.
Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, and many more, for example, Leonardo da Vinci.
the purpose of life is to gradually perfect ourselves from where we are now
to the level of a master like Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Hercules, etc.
we do this by reincarnating over and over again in groups.
We go through five steps:
1/ mastery over the physical plane.
2/mastery over the astral plane( emotional plane)
3/mastery over the mental plane.
4/the crucifixion
5/resurrection
Jesus demonstrated those 5 step 2000 years ago
lol
People who don’t like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn’t have such funny beliefs
PomPom
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Anonymous wrote:
PomPom wrote:
well as a muslim i do believe that the original message of jesus was from god as he was a messenger of god but then the people after jesus added to and took away so much from the truth that then god had to send another messenger with his instructions for mankind, but this time the rules were made much stricter and it was called islam, but everyone believes what they do and i think we would be better off strengthening our own selves before we even go questioning what other people believe, if you believe in the easter bunny or yourself or whatever then go ahead.. if you believe it with your heart, it is true for you, the world is full of idiots like bush shaming the name of humanity let alone what race or religion he is … just make sure whatever you believe, that you have common sense which is in world shortage at the moment
So your God wasn’t good enough to get it right the first time, men outsmarted him?
My God got it right the first time with Jesus.
god gave the right message every time but its the humans that corrupted the message, i cant be bothered to have a discussion about this because if you knew, i wouldn’t have to be explaining it to you, we believe god gave everyone free will since the beginning of time and that we are liable for our actions but its ok for christians, they believe jesus came down, died for them and then they can go around telling everyone how they are saved and no one else is. anyways i said what i believe, and like i said, everyone believes what they believe and they have every right to, being self righteous doesn’t make you right
Stimpy wrote:
The folks who flew jets into buildings and attacked my country 7 years ago believed in the Quran and Mohammad so I struggle with folks who are Muslim I some friends who are Muslim so I’ve made efforts to understand as well but its hard sometimes.
make no mistake. I am not a Muslim..
But I do know that the Quran and or Mohammed would never instruct people
to do the 9/11 incident. It is totally against the religion and the teachings.
spiratec9 wrote:
Stimpy wrote:
The folks who flew jets into buildings and attacked my country 7 years ago believed in the Quran and Mohammad so I struggle with folks who are Muslim I some friends who are Muslim so I’ve made efforts to understand as well but its hard sometimes.
make no mistake. I am not a Muslim..But I do know that the Quran and or Mohammed would never instruct peopleto do the 9/11 incident. It is totally against the religion and the teachings.
Thats what I figured I have a Quran just havn’t gotten around to reading it.
Stimpy wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:
Stimpy wrote:
The folks who flew jets into buildings and attacked my country 7 years ago believed in the Quran and Mohammad so I struggle with folks who are Muslim I some friends who are Muslim so I’ve made efforts to understand as well but its hard sometimes.
make no mistake. I am not a Muslim..But I do know that the Quran and or Mohammed would never instruct peopleto do the 9/11 incident. It is totally against the religion and the teachings.
Thats what I figured I have a Quran just havn’t gotten around to reading it.
Yes the bulk of of all the religions are very fine people. You could trust them with your life.
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1 year, 2 months ago (1 hour, 33 minutes after post)
PomPom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
PomPom wrote:
well as a muslim i do believe that the original message of jesus was from god as he was a messenger of god but then the people after jesus added to and took away so much from the truth that then god had to send another messenger with his instructions for mankind, but this time the rules were made much stricter and it was called islam, but everyone believes what they do and i think we would be better off strengthening our own selves before we even go questioning what other people believe, if you believe in the easter bunny or yourself or whatever then go ahead.. if you believe it with your heart, it is true for you, the world is full of idiots like bush shaming the name of humanity let alone what race or religion he is … just make sure whatever you believe, that you have common sense which is in world shortage at the moment
So your God wasn’t good enough to get it right the first time, men outsmarted him?
My God got it right the first time with Jesus.
god gave the right message every time but its the humans that corrupted the message, i cant be bothered to have a discussion about this because if you knew, i wouldn’t have to be explaining it to you, we believe god gave everyone free will since the beginning of time and that we are liable for our actions but its ok for christians, they believe jesus came down, died for them and then they can go around telling everyone how they are saved and no one else is. anyways i said what i believe, and like i said, everyone believes what they believe and they have every right to, being self righteous doesn’t make you right
So how do you know the Quran hasn’t been messed with?
PomPom wrote:
stimpy, read some of my last posts, watch brasscheck tv vids, and you will start to question who actually did 9/11 and why
I already know who did 9/11 I just said it earlier who do think did it Santa Clause?
Anonymous wrote:
PomPom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
PomPom wrote:
well as a muslim i do believe that the original message of jesus was from god as he was a messenger of god but then the people after jesus added to and took away so much from the truth that then god had to send another messenger with his instructions for mankind, but this time the rules were made much stricter and it was called islam, but everyone believes what they do and i think we would be better off strengthening our own selves before we even go questioning what other people believe, if you believe in the easter bunny or yourself or whatever then go ahead.. if you believe it with your heart, it is true for you, the world is full of idiots like bush shaming the name of humanity let alone what race or religion he is … just make sure whatever you believe, that you have common sense which is in world shortage at the moment
So your God wasn’t good enough to get it right the first time, men outsmarted him?My God got it right the first time with Jesus.
god gave the right message every time but its the humans that corrupted the message, i cant be bothered to have a discussion about this because if you knew, i wouldn’t have to be explaining it to you, we believe god gave everyone free will since the beginning of time and that we are liable for our actions but its ok for christians, they believe jesus came down, died for them and then they can go around telling everyone how they are saved and no one else is. anyways i said what i believe, and like i said, everyone believes what they believe and they have every right to, being self righteous doesn’t make you right
So how do you know the Quran hasn’t been messed with?
All of the religious teachings have been messed with.
Including the Bible. It is 60% true and 40% false.
But the 60% true is pure divine.
PomPom wrote:
stimpy, read some of my last posts, watch brasscheck tv vids, and you will start to question who actually did 9/11 and why
Could you give us the URL to your post. I would like to read it.
PomPom wrote:
well the quran is 100% divine and in the same language that it came to the messenger in and as for who did 9/11, stimpy you dont even know the tip of the iceberg, all you know is what you are fed, you are asleep like most of the rest of the world
Guys please don’t start World War III!!!!!!!!
PomPom wrote:
well the quran is 100% divine and in the same language that it came to the messenger in and as for who did 9/11, stimpy you dont even know the tip of the iceberg, all you know is what you are fed, you are asleep like most of the rest of the world
I honestly have to admit that I’m not sure if it’s 100% Divine.
But I question it because all of the texts are so old and therefore
subject to error.
spiratec9 wrote:
PomPom wrote:
well the quran is 100% divine and in the same language that it came to the messenger in and as for who did 9/11, stimpy you dont even know the tip of the iceberg, all you know is what you are fed, you are asleep like most of the rest of the world
I honestly have to admit that I’m not sure if it’s 100% Divine.But I question it because all of the texts are so old and thereforesubject to error.
I’m not picking on anyone in particular.
PomPom wrote:
well i dont want to, it doesn’t matter what you believe, what matters is that YOU know why you believe it and know that you have exhausted every avenue getting to that decision, otherwise you have no right to talk about anything unless you know about iy and yes smoogie, our humanity is under attack, let alone our religions lol
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1 year, 2 months ago (1 hour, 43 minutes after post)
spiratec9 wrote:
PomPom wrote:
well the quran is 100% divine and in the same language that it came to the messenger in and as for who did 9/11, stimpy you dont even know the tip of the iceberg, all you know is what you are fed, you are asleep like most of the rest of the world
I honestly have to admit that I’m not sure if it’s 100% Divine.But I question it because all of the texts are so old and thereforesubject to error.
If “old” is subject to error then maybe your gramma never existed and you actually a @#?!@@#.
Anonymous wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:
PomPom wrote:
well the quran is 100% divine and in the same language that it came to the messenger in and as for who did 9/11, stimpy you dont even know the tip of the iceberg, all you know is what you are fed, you are asleep like most of the rest of the world
I honestly have to admit that I’m not sure if it’s 100% Divine.But I question it because all of the texts are so old and thereforesubject to error.
If “old” is subject to error then maybe your gramma never existed and you actually a @#?!@@#.
true but harder to ignore when I look in the mirror.
You are wrong my friend, Jesus was a muslim, and he is alive and living in the heaven, and he will come back before the day of judgement to help muslims to fight against the Evil Dajjaal … Jesus known as (Essa messiah Peace be upon him), he came with the message of Allah, no one punnished him actually as i see in english movies in the church there was a statue of him and that is not a reality.
He came with the message of ISLAM (Peaceful Religion), but some of there people did not accept his real message, when he called back by Allah, his people made their own religion named Christianity with some editing into bible, and for your kind information the real bible also had gone with jesus, and the real bible is not in the world, only bible edited by people are available in the world.
Christianity is similar to ISLAM, but not fully, because we believe that Jesus was the prophet of Allah, whereas Christians thinks differently.
There is no god, except one that is Allah.
Anonymous wrote:
wavertreebo wrote:
Jesus was a muslim prophet as well as the christian messiah.
christianity, islam and judaism are all based on the same doctrine that developed in the same place (middle east) over a period of time.
its a pity they spend so much time killing each other
Pity — yes.
Jesus was NOT a muslim. His teachings are WAY different.
No friend, this is not truth, real Muslim doesn’t think that any one is infidels even he is white or black or any religion, ISLAM taught us that all people are same, no one is superior than other, but people can be superior then other in behavior, love, peace, care for other etc.
ISLAM never taught us any bad thing against other religion, it taught us to defend the truth, defend the justice, defend the honesty.
Thats why ISLAM is growing more faster than other religions, Because when some one study the true teachings of islam, he understands that he was in darkness before studying, because if you are unaware of ISLAM, how can you give feedback of it?
Anonymous wrote:
If that is in the Quran then why do some muslims call christians infidels?
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1 year, 2 months ago (20 hours, 18 minutes after post)
Adnan Ahsan wrote:
You are wrong my friend, Jesus was a muslim, and he is alive and living in the heaven, and he will come back before the day of judgement to help muslims to fight against the Evil Dajjaal … Jesus known as (Essa messiah Peace be upon him), he came with the message of Allah, no one punnished him actually as i see in english movies in the church there was a statue of him and that is not a reality.
He came with the message of ISLAM (Peaceful Religion), but some of there people did not accept his real message, when he called back by Allah, his people made their own religion named Christianity with some editing into bible, and for your kind information the real bible also had gone with jesus, and the real bible is not in the world, only bible edited by people are available in the world.
Christianity is similar to ISLAM, but not fully, because we believe that Jesus was the prophet of Allah, whereas Christians thinks differently.
There is no god, except one that is Allah.
Anonymous wrote:
wavertreebo wrote:
Jesus was a muslim prophet as well as the christian messiah.
christianity, islam and judaism are all based on the same doctrine that developed in the same place (middle east) over a period of time.
its a pity they spend so much time killing each other
Pity — yes.
Jesus was NOT a muslim. His teachings are WAY different.
Sorry, buddy. we’re worlds apart.
I’m glad you made this post, because I was getting a little worried we weren’t communicating well in our one-on-one discussion. It’s easy for me to see that you wish to show the truth of your religion for the benefit of all involved, but it’s difficult for me to communicate that even such good intentions can have bad effect on one who is unwilling or unable to hear the truth you wish to present.
wel you are little right, but for your kind information, ISLAM teaches that there is only one God that is ALLAH, and Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) David (Peace Be Upon Him) …. Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him) are the messenger of Allah. where as Judaism and Christians believes differently.
they all are misunderstanding some teachings but may be they are loosing some true teachings, but when they accept islam they should study islamic teachings and i am sure they will get peace from their heart and soul, my english is not very good, thats why i am facing problems to share many things :( but INSHALLAH i will try to learn ENGLISH more deeply and help people …. i am not forcing any one, i am just giving advice to atleast study :)
wavertreebo wrote:
Jesus was a muslim prophet as well as the christian messiah.
christianity, islam and judaism are all based on the same doctrine that developed in the same place (middle east) over a period of time.
its a pity they spend so much time killing each other
i am 50% agree with you my friend - but i wonder if people know that there is one GOD, why don’t they accept that that God name is Allah, and we should follow what his messengers taught us, actually the big problem is that other messenger’s messages were modified by their people. only the last messenger Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him)’s message is not modified by people because Allah promised to safe his last book Quran, and no one can edit it. Believe me, i invite all of you to atleast study whether you accept or not, you will atleast learn the beneficial things.
visit these sites:
http://www.arrahman-arraheem.com/
http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl…
zaphod wrote:
yes religions are basically all rooted in similar ideals. it is weird how everyone thinks *their* religion is better. Humans fight because they want to fight and use religion as the excuse.
dav wrote:
wavertreebo wrote:
of course he wasnt a muslim, he wouldnt have even called himself a christian. He was a jewish rabi
did you not notice you can see how are you fighting each other that masiah was jews or christ, but unfortunately both of you are wrong, he was really muslim, because he came with the message of ALLAH, if you are thinking that i am wrong, read the QURAN — atleast read about JESSUS .. http://www3.sympatico.ca/shabir.ally/…
Not true either. He was the Messiah. If a rabi the jews would have accepted him.
Governments are not good actually, they don’t understand a different between true and false :)
R.A.M wrote:
A very good example is the present war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan…
The people of the middle east see the U.S and its allies as invaders coming into their land mainly out of greed for their oil, now a few of them twist this and show the allies as mainly followers of evil mainly acting upon greed and other beliefs attacking their faith with the goal of destroying it…
Now even Bush has used the term Crusades to wipe out those who use terror to disrup the world…
The worst part is this becomes a horrible spiral where everyone is trying to destroy each other because of something the other did../
This is where forgiveness comes in and to this one has to be strong… not in military might, but the might to rebuild what was lost and to become even stronger and have the strenght to forgive…
i know some people doesn’t like the truth and they fear to listen truth :) they want to live as they are :) then i like to leave them as they are.
Michael Leibman wrote:
I’m glad you made this post, because I was getting a little worried we weren’t communicating well in our one-on-one discussion. It’s easy for me to see that you wish to show the truth of your religion for the benefit of all involved, but it’s difficult for me to communicate that even such good intentions can have bad effect on one who is unwilling or unable to hear the truth you wish to present.
See, that’s where you’re wrong. Life is truth and lives on truth. Any basic falsehood and life stops. In that sense we all maintain the best relation with truth we can.
michael my friend i said they like to live as they are living i did not say that life :)
Michael Leibman wrote:
See, that’s where you’re wrong. Life is truth and lives on truth. Any basic falsehood and life stops. In that sense we all maintain the best relation with truth we can.
is there any proof that muslims are behind 9/11? the best quality steel was used in the construction of worldtrade center and a jet cannot destroy the whole building, there was a propaganda against muslims, also for your kind information is a person who says that he is a muslim but he kills innocent people, he might be a muslim just by name, not a real muslim, real muslim is that who lives with peace and give peace to mankind, but if some force goes to attack on his believes, then he should defend his believes.. 9/11 was a propaganda to create problems for muslims, and attack on some muslim countries. but you can see in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN the majority of causalities are innocent people, ans i saw a 6 year old child were playing with his sister, and then US jet attack with missile and they got die … what will you say for them? were that child behind 9/11? how can you think that a building which made up of Best Steel in the world, can be destroyed by jet?
i am confuse, but leave it, this is not our topic :) ..
PomPom wrote:
well the quran is 100% divine and in the same language that it came to the messenger in and as for who did 9/11, stimpy you dont even know the tip of the iceberg, all you know is what you are fed, you are asleep like most of the rest of the world
PomPom wrote:
stimpy, read some of my last posts, watch brasscheck tv vids, and you will start to question who actually did 9/11 and why
I did and all I can say is you seem to have an incredibly large chip on your shoulder and your very defensive. I wonder what is causing you to have this us against them mantality?
You can almost feel the anger coming off of your posts sorry but thats how you appear to me I hope I’m wrong.
In defence of your faith you come off a borderline extreme and somewhat hateful.
Stimpy my friend i think we should not misunderstand people at all time, some time we get wrong :), lets back to topic ..
Stimpy wrote:
PomPom wrote:
stimpy, read some of my last posts, watch brasscheck tv vids, and you will start to question who actually did 9/11 and why
I did and all I can say is you seem to have an incredibly large chip on your shoulder and your very defensive. I wonder what is causing you to have this us against them mantality?
You can almost feel the anger coming off of your posts sorry but thats how you appear to me I hope I’m wrong.
In defence of your faith you come off a borderline extreme and somewhat hateful.
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