Would you care to talk with a person who also believes that there is no afterlife?
ofcourse i would. but im at school so i might have to leave in the middle of the conversation
ill reply to where we left off when i get home
The way we see it, it is important to value this life. If you love life, don’t waste it by worrying about what happens after death. Live it! Go out and try new things! Spend time with the people you love! Take chances! [Not dangerous ones. After all, you love life. ;)] You don’t need to have an afterlife to live this one to the fullest extent possible.
Well said, Verum Causa! Fear is a powerful destroyer of joy . . .
And that’s coming from someone who does believe there’s an afterlife!
The post from Vernum is great advice but I think you already knew this. The struggle with faith is nothing new. That’s why it’s called faith, no one REALLY knows. But if it is interfering with your happiness you have to distract yourself from thinking this way. If you conciously try not to think about it you will think about it more. This is the way the mind works. If I told you “don’t think about pink elephants”, the first thing you would think about is pink elephants.
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If you want to talk to someone who does not doubt his faith shout me. I have a cross by my name for a reason.
I don’t doubt my faith. I’m 100% sure of this because I have being practicing this for 44 years. The problem of all human beings is that we are extremely bonded to this body, and we have believe that this body is the real us. If you know for sure there is no after life then what is the purpose of this existence? When I talk to somebody I’m am not talking to the meat I’m talking to the soul of that person. When you listen you analize the information with your meat or with your soul? The brain is only a biochemical electrical interface It is like a “walkie talkie/meat controller”.
I’m going to show you a simple secret:
Try to remember the process you went thru, when you were learning to walk, talk, or eat by yourself. You make a mess all the time, you fall, and you speak very weird sounds correct? When you “die” you don’t really die. You just change the state of your matter. The body that you love some much is just a vehicle, an egg shell. Your life here is just a course to learn and to teach other “people” how to love everything, starting with yourself, your environment the whole creation, your similar one and GOD that is the first one on the list.
When you die, you get graduated. The amount of love and good feelings you have at the end of your life is equal to the love and good feelings you put out during your life. These are your grades. It is useless to live believing that all the living creation will end. Nothing alive really ends, life is perennial it only change states. Don’t bother about that, just live and love your experience here. You are learning to life the after life here. You will discover that love is what it really matters. Dead is just one line in the middle of the existence, not at the end. It marks the beginning of a new cycle. So don’t worry about. Just have a lovely life and give fruits of love to everybody that is the most important thing.
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uhhhhh im a lutheran and since you 2 of you are very religious maybe you can help me with this problem too but its just small but for you its huge!!! whats the proof that stories in the bible are actually true? what if someone made up half of the stuff or overexageratted it. and i believe in a after life but im scared about the what if thing like what if were wrong. i ignore it but when i usually think about death it is when im going to bed and i get my normal stage of thinking about everything then that pops in my head and then im scared. and by the way i live my life happy everyday!!!!!! so the me being happy and enjoying my life sint a problem
That’s why it’s called “faith.” Cuz you have to have faith in your beliefs. If you are looking for “proof” in the way we humans normally think about it (such as from a scientific basis), you’re not gonna find it on absolute terms. However, use your doubts to explore your beliefs - maybe try going to some other churchs and doing some reading on other denominations or faiths for answers. And you’ll have to find your own path to those answers to feel comfortable in your own faith.
If there is no afterlife, then your dead, you cease to exist and you dont feel anything. You cease to think and all other things so you wont even know if your wrong or right, so why not believe in God and Jesus, you got nothing to lose really. Sometimes I do lose faith, but hell everyone loses faith every once in a while..even saints. Just try praying and know that everything that exists cant just be an accident or by chance.
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but im scared of that ceasing to exist. i want to feel things lol now im scared agin!!!!
i dont think anyone knows for sure what will happen after death although we all have our own beliefs. i used to do the same thing and cry about it too but there is really nothing to worry about. you still have a long life ahead of you. live life to the fullest and have fun.
thats the thing i do live it to the fullest and i know no one knows for sure whats going to hsppen after death but when ever i think about it i get scared!!!!! and i do think about it every night even though im a far away from it i think unless something bad happens to me
i was the same way for so long but somehow i got over it. i dont know how but i just stoped thinking about it.
well i hope it can happen to me to but i have a tendency of thinking about random stuff all the time but im pretty sure it will come up again. but i hope it doesnt thanks
I think it is a stage. I have the same conversation in my head. I start out getting scared thinking I will die and nothing will exist. Then I start to counter it with an argument that we all have a purpose here. Then I wonder how we all got here how could something just pop out of thin air to get us all here. Then I just try to ignore it and tell myself that if there is nothing after death then I won’t know ans won’t be able to care. I also have a problem with fogs not going to heaven.
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Going back to the original topic:
Brother! Answer these questions to yourself:
Do you really in the deep of you hearth believe in GOD? Are you one of those that think that there is something called GOD? Or are you a real believer? If you have doubts do this exercise:
Take some time and plan to go alone to a peaceful place that you like. It needs to be a quiet place with no interruptions. Try to take all your preoccupations to one side for a moment. Close you eyes and concentrate be aware, GOD is seated by your side. This moment is extremely important. This is the moment that GOD the creator of everything, has appointed to hear and respond to you. Talk to him and tell all what you think about him. If you really love him tell him, if you hate him with all your heart tell him. If you don’t believe in him also tell him. Tell him exactly what you think. Explain to him why you feel in that way. Tell him what you need to clarify. Explain to him that you are scared to die and tell him why. Be aware that GOD is spirit that means that GOD is going to respond for sure in a little bit different way that your flesh is used to communicate normally. Some people might hear his voice, like the bible says. He might answer you with an internal message inside your own thinking. Watch your surroundings closely. He can answer you by sending you somebody (physical or spiritual) but for sure something he is going to use to answer your questions.
Sometimes the big answer is contained in just one word or phrase. A typical God’s answer might sound like this; “Love” or “Hope” or “Wisdom”. Then you need to break the code and analyze your life and what are you doing to develop. If you have this big question about what is going to happen to you when you “die” it is because GOD wants you to grow in that direction. You need to look for information about what is going to happen. Your soul needs that information to grow and develop certain areas of your real life, not the flesh “life”. GOD for sure wants to talk to you probably more than you want to talk him. He wants to answer all your questions but you need to establish the friendly relationship with him.
My last word is; Reach as much people as you can and love then with true love no matter what they might do or have done to you. Have hope because you haven’t borne jet. Make god use of this existence because this time is preparing you for the real life.
Be prepared!
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ok but do i talk to him out loud or in my head? and when i pray do i do it in my head or like in a whisper????????? when i go to the quiet place and talk to god do i close my eyes the whole time????? and do i talk to him out loud or in my head????
also i just thought of this!!!! in the bible im pretty sure it never explained how we started believing in god!!! like before everything!!! the incident that started the belief in god like for the jews!!! it never tells you the first time god was spoken too!!!
Hi Hyenadan85.
I’m 30 years old and I am also afraid of dying. When I write to you, it’s like writing to myself.
I sometimes wake up at night with anxiety and heavy breathing, scared of dying. That’s when I try to put myself into perspective. Every time I’m afraid, I take my time to remind myself and value that I’m alive. Treasure the time with my friends and my family, do something you believe is important with your life – it is of upmost importance. I sold my TV, I eventually stopped doing things that was only their for my entertainment. Things that kept me lazy, things that only cured my boredom. I made a list of all the things I wanted to do before I die. Death is the upmost reminder, to live life and respect everyone around you. To be kind and enjoy even the smallest things.
Most people don’t get this before they find out that they have cancer and only 3 months left to live. I have a friend, he is a christian, at the age of 18 he found out that he also was gay. When he told his parents, they rejected him and he was no longer a part of the family. That was until, both his mom and dad was diagnosed with cancer, just within a 2 months interval from each other. They then realised that life, kindness and love should stand above all other - even faith. Some might argue this was an act of God, they begged their son for forgiveness and he forgave them. They died within the year and my friend took over the parenting of his younger brother and sister.
You might possibly have over 60 more years to live. And you can have kids, that will in a way keep the better part of you alive. Some people believe in reincarnation. But if you don’t remember anything from your previous life, what does it matter?
To live an eternity in heaven, would be nice. But to me it sounds impossible with a little religious knowledge. A third of the world (Islam) say your going to burn in hell for eternity, if you don’t believe in what they believe in. The other third (Christian) says your going to burn in hell if you don’t believe what THEY believe in - so, it’s kinda hard finding a way to heaven! Whatever we choose someone condemns us to Hell! That’s why I can never start to believe in a personal God. At least it will not be lonely in Hell. ;-)
Then you have the spirituality and other beliefs. Thinking that we are all one, that evolution and life is the energy that we call God, not a bearded man in the sky.
When you die I don’t think it will turn black. It will turn white and it will feel good, it will feel warm - no more fears, no more struggle, sorrow or hatred. One last breath… And you turn from the universe’s language of Ying (life) to Yang (death), from living to non-living, until parts of you gets born again maybe 6.000.000.000.000.000 years later. It has been discovered that the universe is expanding, but it will eventually stop and return back, like a breathing entity… Or living.
You wouldn’t want to spend an eternity conscious, I think you rather spend it non-living, as part of a rock or as universe itself. The time-span is too grand. If you broaden your perspective to see the breaths of the universe, then it’s possible that you can logically see that you will live again someday. But you won’t have any memory of it, if your lucky you will have the feeling that your connected to everything else that is living and not living. Maybe you will feel a spiritual enlightening that your are one with cosmos.
Sometimes I think about the universe and life and evolution, how incredible everything is. How absolutely magnificent it is to be alive. We are so amazingly privileged to be alive, right now, just look out in the universe! Planets, stars, galaxies as far as your own comprehension of the mind can see…
Then I think about all the people who waste their life’s in front of a television. How they waste it throwing garbage around them, how they litter, how they disrespect each other, scream and fight each other. They pick boring jobs, live boring lives and comprehend it all by telling themselves there is a heaven waiting for them.
I started telling myself that my fear is a gift. Life shouldn’t be taken so easily and swiftly as shown in our western capitalistic thinking. We shouldn’t listen to what media is trying to sell us. Media isn’t trying to inform you anything, it’s selling ads. Media sells fear, shallowness and ignorance. Not all of course, but you can feel that something’s wrong.
About evolution.
Even if there is a God or not, I don’t know that and evolution doesn’t disprove it either. But lets imagen there isn’t one. What kind of force started in the universe, that made life flourish? That would make life spawn, change and progress to what it is today? Humans are incredible with their brain. If we just can get along, we have the capability to evolve even beyond our own planet. I’m so curious on how life will evolve, that is one of the reasons I don’t wanna die… Haha.. I wanna see what happens with life. Where evolution can take life. People are way to disrespectful of other species, cause if they would just study evolution instead of taking hold of their own comfort in religions - something we cannot prove. They would see and understand that animals feel just as much as we do. They have emotions and matter just as much as we do but we keep them as slaves and torture them for their meat.
If/when evolution evolves and reaches it’s most beautiful state (I believe this is the meaning of life), is when we can reach peace, kindness and bring happiness to everything that is living. Then we can keep spreading life around the universe. Make our own heaven.
This was some random thoughts about the fear of death and where it’s taking me. I’ve jumped parachute, bungie-jump, travelled the world, read lots and lots of good books, climbed mountains, but most importantly - I respect and love life. I can be happy just looking at flowers or a bumble bee in the garden.
I got a job that I love and everyday I work for making this world a little better. So yes, I’m going to die and I have no idea what happens afterwards. I believe that my consciousness will disappear. But I hope to spread my message around me and treat everyone as if they where me. I hope to have a son or a daughter that I can spoil with love, someday.
thanks alot faith pilot!!! i mean wow me and you are extremely similiar, i have recently gotten rid of most of the fair of death but i know it will come back again like it it usually does and ill just have to deal with it. but i also live my life happily in the same views as you but the only different thing is that im trying to find god in my life, well i found him but not 100% percent yet. and its funny because i look as my fear and questioning as a gift too!!!
After only reading 2 blogs only frow you guys , i more then any one have been on a huge downward spiral!!!!!i last night at a friends b-day party last night ate a big piece of humble pie !!I swallowed more pride then i ever did somthing that helped mend fences was acually a verry special woman liveing at this womans house whom i had a little beef with!!!,before this night i ve been depressed over being alone ,she acually admitting some interest in me was enought to do that.her being there ,and me manning up to show throwing all my dirty laundry ,she made feel more peace for the rest of the night and with every one,i got more answers i thought that i have been asking God ,allah,Jehovvah or just flat outdivine intervention ,came to me so fast in one night ,all this girl want is for me is simply me taking care of myself and grtting back to my feet which ,is hapening im going back to school,i wanna show her i can take on myself and protect her. no rush though she just got out of a bad relationship ,but dude is a verry jealous man who soured things bwetween mer and i last year,i know she has always given me a certain ,level of peace should i hang out alot over this friends house more to indirectly show her i am doing everything right by me and am strong enought to protect her im confused , nervous not knowing simple signs to look for ive never been in a serious relation ship dont wanna **** any thing with her up,i need all the advise i cant get , cause im hoping and found a newly found faith wich i had lost a whole lot of ,over the past few months,now just in one night i got so many answers ,whether big or small,pnce i get to my feet ill be the first one to admit tomyself that icant do it bymyself anymore! which i s what ive been use to , ijust cant do it ,ican try which i ve still been doing but with little or no progress shes just the perpect peron to keep me in check,i can not trust myself! more than anyone. its time for me to stop talking and start doing more !!!
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I have exactly the same fear as you do..which is why I actually came looking for a forum where other people may be the same. As you have mentioned it is the “not existing” that scares me. Whenever I tell people my fear of dying I always get the response…” Well when you die you wont know..” But it is the fact I know NOW that one day I will be nothing that scares me. And also the fact my parents/family will one day no longer be here…The fact it is a definate that nothing can change.
I also don’t want to spend everyday scared of the inevitable,but it is so hard to avoid it..it doesn’t matter what I am doing…the thought can just pop in my head,and the pain which comes with it is terrible.
I hope everyday for proof there is more after this life..but it never comes.
How on earth do you stop yourself fearing the inevitable???
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Sarah191, not sure if it will help you, but I just started reading a book called Chantaram by Gregory David Roberts. Besides being a truly entertaining and good book, it eased my fear of death by giving a better perspective on life, death and the universe as a whole - from an atheists perspective.
Read it.
God and satan were thought up bye people who lived their life in fear so they thought if they could create this being named god he could rule out evil named satan god nor satan exist in this world fact life and death is the only thing.
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