I have no idea but it doesn’t sound very friendly lol
I offer my perspective as an atheist if it is desired.
i think it might be talking about the rapture of the church. google rapture.
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I offer my perspective as an atheist if it is desired.
sure, why not
danbo513 wrote:
i think it might be talking about the rapture of the church. google rapture.
the definition is; ecstatic joy or delight; joyful ecstasy.
As an atheist we can find no reason in reality to conclude that any superintelligent deity exists. Since we can find no reason in reality that a deity exists that sentence has no logical meaning for us because, from our personal experience, it talks about people that come from something that doesn’t exist. Any claim that the story is for sinners has no influence on us, because we don’t base our knowledge of right and wrong off of a code that is claimed to be inspired by a superintelligent deity that labels any person that does something against what it says to do a sinner.
This is by little “Johnny Edwards” and for those of you who are of the Puritan persuasion, then I say that with all the love and affection I can muster for people like you.
Jonathan Edwards, the puritan primadonna, was most famous for his “fire and brimstone” sermons. This particular line comes from his famous “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” sermon, and the only reason I know this is because, though I might not be religious, I love studying all kinds of religion.
This line is at the very end of his sermon. After he’s preached that all sinners are going to burn in hell with “the wailing and gnashing of teeth”, he’s nice enough to muster up enough sunshine to suggest that maybe not all hope is lost for sinners and if they just wake up then maybe God won’t hurt them so badly.
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This is by little “Johnny Edwards” and for those of you who are of the Puritan persuasion, then I say that with all the love and affection I can muster for people like you.Jonathan Edwards, the puritan primadonna, was most famous for his “fire and brimstone” sermons. This particular line comes from his famous “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” sermon, and the only reason I know this is because, though I might not be religious, I love studying all kinds of religion.This line is at the very end of his sermon. After he’s preached that all sinners are going to burn in hell with “the wailing and gnashing of teeth”, he’s nice enough to muster up enough sunshine to suggest that maybe not all hope is lost for sinners and if they just wake up then maybe God won’t hurt them so badly.
Yeah, I have to write a whole essay about the story and I don’t understand it so well, you think you can help? :D
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Godfather wrote:
This is by little “Johnny Edwards” and for those of you who are of the Puritan persuasion, then I say that with all the love and affection I can muster for people like you.Jonathan Edwards, the puritan primadonna, was most famous for his “fire and brimstone” sermons. This particular line comes from his famous “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” sermon, and the only reason I know this is because, though I might not be religious, I love studying all kinds of religion.This line is at the very end of his sermon. After he’s preached that all sinners are going to burn in hell with “the wailing and gnashing of teeth”, he’s nice enough to muster up enough sunshine to suggest that maybe not all hope is lost for sinners and if they just wake up then maybe God won’t hurt them so badly.
Yeah, I have to write a whole essay about the story and I don’t understand it so well, you think you can help? :D
I’m not going to be of much help in a long essay.
What I can tell you is what I understand the sermon to be about, and hopefully that can help you understand parts of it.
The sermon focuses on, not so much preaching the mercy of God, but instead admiring how merciful he is towards sinners.
Johnny Edwards wrote:
There is nothing that keeps wicked men, at any moment, out of hell, but the mere pleasure of God.
He makes the point at several times that sinners are already condemned to hell. He claims that God has no duty and has made no promises to sinners to keep from punishing them. He rants on and on about how, if he wished, which he probably does, God could cast all sinners into the fires of hell, yadda yadda yadda. So the entirety of the sermon is Edward’s astonishment at how merciful God must be, since he is so power and sinners are so evil, yet God as decided no to punish them, yet.
thanks for explaining in short summery it helped a lot
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This is not from the Bible I know that much
it means you do you have evidence not you
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As an atheist we can find no reason in reality to conclude that any superintelligent deity exists. Since we can find no reason in reality that a deity exists that sentence has no logical meaning for us because, from our personal experience, it talks about people that come from something that doesn’t exist. Any claim that the story is for sinners has no influence on us, because we don’t base our knowledge of right and wrong off of a code that is claimed to be inspired by a superintelligent deity that labels any person that does something against what it says to do a sinner.
So you guys don’t beleive in sins at all?
As defined as action, speech, or thought forbidden and punishable by a deity, no. A common misconception about atheists is that since we don’t derive our morals from a religious text, we don’t have a concept of right or wrong at all. We do have morals, and we call them ethics. We believe that things that are right and wrong can be reasoned. Consider this idea. If someone came up to you and punched you that would be wrong correct? What makes this wrong? Is it the fact that in our early years our parents attempt to forbid us from hitting someone and punish us if we do? No. It is because physical blows hurt, and that fact is what makes violence wrong. We believe, “Do not hurt, help.” We think that right or wrong should be reasoned out because if a religion commanded a person to steal or kill reason would be the only way to find out those things are wrong.
That’s interesting, Do you believe in more then one God?
It depends on the definition of god. If you are talking about an immortal being that doesn’t obey the laws of nature and created the universe and everything in it, we don’t believe in any of those.
If I’m relating this to the right part of Scripture, this passage is talking about when the Jewish World–thier temple–(thier life was based around their temple/God which was constructed like the world with stars up above the worship area etc.) at this point they are being told that the stars will fall from the sky etc. and that a generation will not pass away be fore this happens. (a generation back then was around 40 years.) About 40 years later, the Romans invaded the place where the Jewish temple was and it was destroyed (”not a stone upon a stone remained”–the stars fell from the sky.)thus ending the worldly kingdom and starting the heavenly one. Important part of this passage is to note that the Christians in the area knew to get out, and they went up into the hill country, not one of them died but many Jews were killed, 3000 or 4000 thousand Jews were killed if i recall those number correctly.
i hope this was the passage you were refering to, it was worded a little differently than mine is. i know this is a year late, but i thought you might be interested in the historical background.
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does sound like the bible i read? can you tell were that is???
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