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Wow - the NY Times is really going after McCain.

Ever since he protested their coverage of his ties to Fannie Mae, it’s been a all out assault. Today, there’s an article about his relationship with the gambling industry. And in various Op-Eds, Frank Rich, Bob Herbert, Gail Collins, Dorothy Samuels, and Judith Warner attack him or Sarah Palin. That’s a lot of blood. Any thoughts? Is this too much or too little?

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Anonymous #
1 year, 1 month ago (4 minutes after post)

Well, if Johnny is doing something naughty we ought to know, and the NY Times isnt about to let anything slide… Besides, Sarah Palin has been a bit odd. She’s obviously unprepared to be president if the job got landed on her and the McCain campaign seems to have issues allowing her to be properly interviewed and allowing her to hold her own on the campaign trail. Honestly, he stopped his campaign rather than allow his running mate to go alone?

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (6 minutes after post)

A VOTE for Obama is a vote for KILLING BABIES, yes thats right, Obama wants to legalize abortion
McCain is against this, McCain will take aborton out of the US.

In the final vote who will u vote for BABY KILLER or SAVER

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (6 minutes after post)

hmmm… i never bought letterman’s argument that palin ought to be required to “campaign” in his place. “ssuspending” his campaign just so he could sit mutely in the negotiations in Washington was stupid though.

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Anonymous #
1 year, 1 month ago (7 minutes after post)

But everyone knows politicians are known for kissing babies, not killing them…

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 minutes after post)

think what u want, this is the truth

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spiratec9 offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Burnaby, BC, CA | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 minutes after post)

your talking big money and greed and often corruption follows.

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (9 minutes after post)

oh please. abortion is not nearly as important as the other matters being determined in this election.

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spiratec9 offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Burnaby, BC, CA | 1 year, 1 month ago (10 minutes after post)

I just hope they won’t cheat again using the voting machines.

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 minutes after post)

hmmm… voting machine issues will probably continue to hurt democrats. but i don’t think it will matter in the swing states.

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (12 minutes after post)

ABORTION IS THE MAIN TOPIC FOR Christians so dont go there, and i just had an hour reponse on the issue
here it is if u wanna see
http://help.com/post/201958-do-you-be…

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (12 minutes after post)

shane, what if other issues could save more lives?

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (13 minutes after post)

Such as……

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (14 minutes after post)

i see healthcare as a moral issue, too.

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (14 minutes after post)

The number one killer is abortion, what else could save more lives

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Doctor Hu :) offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (15 minutes after post)

alex ^3 wrote:
shane, what if other issues could save more lives?

uhem, *cough* *cough* War on Terror… Honestly though, by the time anyone gains enough power to be elected president, he or she no longer deserves the right.

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Richard Cor de Lyon online Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 20 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (15 minutes after post)

I’m not surprised that the NY Times would be out for Republican blood in an election year. Fox is our for Demo blood too. I hate politics. “Give to Rome what is Romes…”

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spiratec9 offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Burnaby, BC, CA | 1 year, 1 month ago (15 minutes after post)

alex ^3 wrote:
hmmm… voting machine issues will probably continue to hurt democrats. but i don’t think it will matter in the swing states.

its what swayed the last two bush elections.

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (16 minutes after post)

Okay the war on terror is a cover story, were just there to take the oil

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (16 minutes after post)

are you kidding me? in pure statistical terms, the abortion laws can only change state-by-state. even if roe v. wade were overturned, you wouldn’t see as much of an effect on child mortality as you would through universal healthcare.

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (17 minutes after post)

abortion is more likely to become illegal in Europe than it is in 25 of the most populous U.S. states.

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (17 minutes after post)

UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS A LOAD OF CRAP, that means the poor pay nothing and we pay a ton, yeah thats fare since we went to college tard

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Richard Cor de Lyon online Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 20 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (18 minutes after post)

Post melt down… I’m out - Peace :)

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Doctor Hu :) offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (18 minutes after post)

shane is a Christian wrote:
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS A LOAD OF CRAP, that means the poor pay nothing and we pay a ton, yeah thats fare since we went to college tard

Shane isnt acting like a Christian when he or she insults people who cannot raise themselves above what they were born into and those with disabilities…

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (19 minutes after post)

yeah. but apparently you didn’t go to a very good college :)

you pay more for healthcare when it’s not universal because of moral hazard. and in the end, you get taxed for the emergency room costs of those folks who aren’t covered.

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (19 minutes after post)

i’m sorry, shane. that last crack was wrong.

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (19 minutes after post)

yeah but for one full health care has never passed

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (20 minutes after post)

okay - well, you might be right there. they succeeded getting state-wide universal healthcare under mitt romney, though.

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (21 minutes after post)

yeah see wee have to pay for people that arent covered, that aint right, i work for my money, i barely get enough as it is, in fact im slowly losing money right now

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shane is a Christian offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (22 minutes after post)

minimum wage needs to go up to 7.50, so at least ill get .50 more man that just aint right

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (23 minutes after post)

shane - the problem is that you pay ANYWAY for people who aren’t covered. and since people wait to go to the emergency room only when they are very sick, it costs much much more in the end to treat them (and spreads germs further, when disease is involved).

when everyone is treated, the system actually functions more smoothly and costs most people less.

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (23 minutes after post)

hahaha… well, i agree about minimum wage. but that’s a democratic argument. republicans don’t favor raising minimum wage.

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Anonymous #
1 year, 1 month ago (26 minutes after post)

I’m a Democrat, but I dont know about minimum wage actually helping that much. I personally find that the price of things raise at a much higher rate than the raises I get from the minimum wage increase. Business are trying to offset their losses from increased emplyee compensation by raising their prices to consumers.

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Anonymous #
1 year, 1 month ago (27 minutes after post)

*businesses

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (27 minutes after post)

but shane -

it is odd that you are so strongly in favor of saving life and not in favor of treating the sick. what - it’s okay to favor saving life as long as it doesn’t cost you anything? but since helping the ill costs…

i’m being unkind in my interpretation, but this is what you are saying.

alex

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (28 minutes after post)

in the end, raising the minimum wage does make everything more expensive (including for people who receive the minimum wage). it also causes a loss of jobs to countries where it is less expensive to do the same work. but some jobs can’t be lost (restaurants, etc.).

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (29 minutes after post)

but the wage raise goes straight to people who need it. and the increased costs get spread out across the population.

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alex ^3 offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
Philadelphia, PA, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (31 minutes after post)

so, in general, people are probably better off with a raise in the minimum wage to a level that allows a sustainable living.

or gov’t could take steps that reduce other costs (infrastructure, health care, child care, etc.) as an alternative to minimum wage increases.

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Srinh offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (1 hour, 41 minutes after post)

no, it’s not too much. the media’s strange. they’re like sharks…they can smell blood a mile away. It’s got to feed the public’s morbid fascination w/death…actual or political. i guess the fact that he’s a verified war hero/pow, holds no contest. If he’s profiting too much from illicit ties, then its definitely frowned upon…and in this economy. Thou shalt not prosper, especially unfairly! look at martha stewart, they put mary poppins in prison. albeit, it was a cushy position.

But um, not too much. it wont affect his share of teh vote. those are usually middle-class+, white men/women who are conversative and put a high stake on their money as well.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours, 59 minutes after post)

shane is a Christian wrote:
A VOTE for Obama is a vote for KILLING BABIES, yes thats right, Obama wants to legalize abortion
McCain is against this, McCain will take aborton out of the US.

In the final vote who will u vote for BABY KILLER or SAVER

AND thats why im voting for obama!

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Fuzzy Pepper offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 92 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (13 hours, 27 minutes after post)

Well, I do agree with alot of what Alex is saying. Things do need to change, but they need to change in a way that is unconventional….somthing that hasn’t been done yet.

On another note, Dani, you imply that you are voting for Obama simply b/c he is pro-choice? Are there other reasons that you are voting for him, or is that the only reason?

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ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 207 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (14 hours, 7 minutes after post)

there are many other reason’s why i am voting for him, i just don’t think its anyone’s business to know i shouldnt of even said who im voting for

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