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Not at all, but I am a religious one so I am biased in my opinion.

Hadn’t noticed the fervor. We have religious and non religious Alike. I am part of the nonreligious camp.

I don’t like too much fervor.

religous I mean even though I am religious, I don’t like the heavy duty proceletizing.

I don’t care about religions.
They should join as one.

hey how do you accept “waiting approval” replies?

See now I don’t know who that is. I don’t like religion. I like me :)

I suppose it’s how you define fervor. Christians may display what you would call fervor, as well as Jews and Muslims, and atheists for that matter. Each and every religion, including the religion of atheism, has its shrill and obnoxious adherents. Having once been an atheist, I can relate to how the atheists on this site feel. However, now that I’m a Christian, I can look back and see a certain intolerance on the part of atheists that I could not see before. I have seen atheists post messages that in effect tell Christians and members of other faiths to “shut up” and take their postings to “religious sites.” However, since atheism is also a belief system, the atheists who try to squelch free speech on this site are displaying a high degree of “religious intolerance.” The solution, of course, is for everyone to respect everyone else . . . and denigrating someone else’s beliefs is not showing respect. Believers have no business telling atheists to shut up and that they’re going to hell, and atheists have no business telling belivers to shut up and that they’re delusional. This is a debate that goes absolutely nowhere.

Yeah, I would say there’s a wide disparity of beliefs demonstrated by the users on this site, which is part of what makes the site so terrific! I haven’t noticed postings or replies being dominated by a particular way of religious thinking.

i’m not creeped out i just feel sorry for them
waiting approvals you cannot accept its the mods on this site that have to approve of the post

No not at all

At the Anglican cathedral in Toronto last Sunday, the dean of the cathedral delivered a homily in which he said that the church cannot use “dogma” to hurt or exclude other people. In the Gospel reading, we saw Jesus tell the religious leaders of the day that the prostitutes and tax collectors would enter heaven before them. Believers in any religion enter dangerous territory when they feel that “they” have a “lock” on heaven and God’s blessings, to the exclusion of all others. I believe that “atheists” will be in heaven, and that there will be popes and archbishops in hell. The God I worship did not come to earth to condemn us but to save us. And He will save Whom he will save, and no human being upon this earth, living or dead, can put God into a box and say He MUST do this or that. I KNOW that I do NOT have a “lock” on heaven, and I just pray that I get there . . . or should I say, that WE get there!

Commander Ikari wrote:
Hadn’t noticed the fervor. We have religious and non religious Alike. I am part of the nonreligious camp.

Oh yeah ;P. i too am non-relgious and find it hard anyone could beleive in god. So this i’m sure is hypocritical, but i frankly hate seeing posts with people saying “god saved my life,” and the such.

What is it about Christianity that creeps you out? I’ve never forced my beliefs on others here but have offered to pray for those i felt could use them. Regardless whether the person is saved or not, God hears all prayer. If religious posts bother you then don’t read them and move on. Trust me, our feelings won’t be hurt.

I wouldn’t say “respect,” as much as “attention.” But that’s equally true for the other end of the spectrum, don’t you think?

Dude, I think you just have a strong dislike for the Republican’s Vice Presidential nominee and are pulling at straws to justify your feelings. Slapping a “religious zealot’ label on her satisfies that need. I could just as easily choose to hate her because i don’t like women with a tattoo of a swastika on her buttocks.

I am a part of the religious group…just not Christian. I used to consider myself a Christian and let’s just say that it didn’t work out at all for me. Now I am a Wiccan, and I take pride in my religious choice. =] and no, I’m not going to say the Goddess saved my life because I haven’t had any times in my life where I needed saving (life or death matters). But, if you are Atheist (like my friend Kyle…hi Kyle!!! =D lol!) I won’t hold that against you. Well, that goes to anyone of ANY religion. I think that every religion deserves a certain degree of respect.
anywho, Blessed be!

colinreamusi wrote:
Now Wiccan I can REALLY go with. The respect thing is SO important. And Southern Comfort - if you consider being disturbed about a presidential candidate who not only thinks that gays are “against God” and the Iraq war is “part of God’s plan” is (as you say) “pulling at straws”, then maybe you need to queation whether your beliefs are very healthy?

Just a thought.

I get what you’re saying. Notice,I said “a certain degree of respect”. What I mean by that is, I’m not going to go around and ‘dis’ other people’s religions or tell them that their belief system is wrong. I am a strong supporter of gay people and their rights (I’m not gay though) and I am also strongly against the war in Iraq. I think there’s no reason for it. So, no I do not agree with Christianity on the whole “gay is wrong” thing. They get all that from a darn book. As for Bush screwing everything up, I hold that against him, not his religion.

Just some things for YOU to think about. =]

cherry_blossom wrote:
I get what you’re saying. Notice,I said “a certain degree of respect”. What I mean by that is, I’m not going to go around and ‘dis’ other people’s religions or tell them that their belief system is wrong. I am a strong supporter of gay people and their rights (I’m not gay though) and I am also strongly against the war in Iraq. I think there’s no reason for it. So, no I do not agree with Christianity on the whole “gay is wrong” thing. They get all that from a darn book. As for Bush screwing everything up, I hold that against him, not his religion. Just some things for YOU to think about. =]

Thanks for having my back,c-b. Frankly, I’m very comfortable in what I believe. I have a faith in God and in His Son, Jesus Christ. I doubt seriously that ANY politician would ever get me to question that. I might question how closely their views align with my views, but that’s about all. I know plenty of Christians that I have difference of opinions with. And I guess I have at least one Wiccan that I partially agree with. It doesn’t weaken my Christian beliefs one iota.

southern_comfort wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:
I get what you’re saying. Notice,I said “a certain degree of respect”. What I mean by that is, I’m not going to go around and ‘dis’ other people’s religions or tell them that their belief system is wrong. I am a strong supporter of gay people and their rights (I’m not gay though) and I am also strongly against the war in Iraq. I think there’s no reason for it. So, no I do not agree with Christianity on the whole “gay is wrong” thing. They get all that from a darn book. As for Bush screwing everything up, I hold that against him, not his religion. Just some things for YOU to think about. =]

Thanks for having my back,c-b. Frankly, I’m very comfortable in what I believe. I have a faith in God and in His Son, Jesus Christ. I doubt seriously that ANY politician would ever get me to question that. I might question how closely their views align with my views, but that’s about all. I know plenty of Christians that I have difference of opinions with. And I guess I have at least one Wiccan that I partially agree with. It doesn’t weaken my Christian beliefs one iota.

lol! sure thing. =] I don’t know if all Wiccans have the same point of view as me (I’m a strongly opinionated person) but I believe that you have the right to choose your own religion, whether it agrees with mine or not. You are Christian and believe in God and Jesus. I am Wiccan and I believe in the Goddess and other Gods/Goddesses. I’m also about the whole idea where everyone from every religion should get along. But, unfortunately, this world isn’t perfect and that’s not how it goes in some cases.

cherry_blossom wrote:
I am a part of the religious group…just not Christian. I used to consider myself a Christian and let’s just say that it didn’t work out at all for me. Now I am a Wiccan, and I take pride in my religious choice. =] and no, I’m not going to say the Goddess saved my life because I haven’t had any times in my life where I needed saving (life or death matters). But, if you are Atheist (like my friend Kyle…hi Kyle!!! =D lol!) I won’t hold that against you. Well, that goes to anyone of ANY religion. I think that every religion deserves a certain degree of respect.
anywho, Blessed be!

Your a witch

southern_comfort wrote:
What is it about Christianity that creeps you out? I’ve never forced my beliefs on others here but have offered to pray for those i felt could use them. Regardless whether the person is saved or not, God hears all prayer. If religious posts bother you then don’t read them and move on. Trust me, our feelings won’t be hurt.

The truth can sometimes be offensive to folks. Jesus didn’t come here to make friends he spoke the truth and that just infureated folks to the point that they crucified Him. I think help.com is a greta forum to get the Word out.

colinreamusi wrote:
Anyone getting the point about why I asked the question yet?
Anonymous, you’re slightly scary. Don’t worry though, clearly it’s all part of “God’s Plan”.
How can you claim to be a Christian (or whatever religion you are) and call cherry blossom a witch? Christianity is supposed to be about love and forgiveness, isn’t it? Regardless of what you feel is ‘right’, she (like all of us) has the right to be the person she wants to be. She hasn’t told anyone they are wrong, or been hurtful or rude. She has only been respectful and understanding to the fact that we are all different. She has also questioned in an intelligent fashion the thoughts and opinions of all on this thread.

As for Jesus speaking the truth. I don’t disagree, but do you think there is only one truth? Do you think Christianity is the ONLY belief with “THE” truth?
Most religions have extremists who feel this way. That is how great atrocities are created in the world, surely?

Please, please, please actually think about what you are saying.

I was thinking out loud I probably should have kept that to myself. Your also correct she has the right to be who she wants to be.

Religion is an attempt to reach God. Christianity is a relationship so yes I do believe there is one absolute truth. The problem with the world today is we have abandonded absolutes for relatives which is whatever you think the truth is and if it makes you feel good then its right. God did not say whatever you believe its ok He was clear with that in the Bible there is only one true way. John 14:6 Jesus says “I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me.” that sounds pretty clear to me and there are many other passages pointing to the fact that the way is through God.

colinreamusi wrote:
Anyone getting the point about why I asked the question yet?
Anonymous, you’re slightly scary. Don’t worry though, clearly it’s all part of “God’s Plan”.
How can you claim to be a Christian (or whatever religion you are) and call cherry blossom a witch? Christianity is supposed to be about love and forgiveness, isn’t it? Regardless of what you feel is ‘right’, she (like all of us) has the right to be the person she wants to be. She hasn’t told anyone they are wrong, or been hurtful or rude. She has only been respectful and understanding to the fact that we are all different. She has also questioned in an intelligent fashion the thoughts and opinions of all on this thread.

As for Jesus speaking the truth. I don’t disagree, but do you think there is only one truth? Do you think Christianity is the ONLY belief with “THE” truth?
Most religions have extremists who feel this way. That is how great atrocities are created in the world, surely?

Please, please, please actually think about what you are saying.

wow. lol! thank you. I didn’t think people would understand my reasoning. I’ve been told countless times that my thoughts are absurd. So I’m glad someone was finally able to see things my way, at least a little.

and Anon., yes I am a “bruja”. well, not the type of witch Christianity sees (devil-worshipping woman who is suffering)-again, not putting down Christianity. But during the Burning Times, that was what people thought of when they heard the word witch. and, yet again, I take pride in my religion. =]

Lots of Christians were also burned at the stake. LOTS. Nothing in Christ’s teachings justified the burning of heretics. Everything in Christ’s teachings argued against it. But people will use religion and the “isms” to justify their use of violence against others. One thing I’m sure about: God could do His own killing, if that’s what He wanted to do. Anyone who says he is killing for God is really killing for himself or his own cause.

cherry_blossom wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:
Anyone getting the point about why I asked the question yet?
Anonymous, you’re slightly scary. Don’t worry though, clearly it’s all part of “God’s Plan”.
How can you claim to be a Christian (or whatever religion you are) and call cherry blossom a witch? Christianity is supposed to be about love and forgiveness, isn’t it? Regardless of what you feel is ‘right’, she (like all of us) has the right to be the person she wants to be. She hasn’t told anyone they are wrong, or been hurtful or rude. She has only been respectful and understanding to the fact that we are all different. She has also questioned in an intelligent fashion the thoughts and opinions of all on this thread.

As for Jesus speaking the truth. I don’t disagree, but do you think there is only one truth? Do you think Christianity is the ONLY belief with “THE” truth?
Most religions have extremists who feel this way. That is how great atrocities are created in the world, surely?

Please, please, please actually think about what you are saying.

wow. lol! thank you. I didn’t think people would understand my reasoning. I’ve been told countless times that my thoughts are absurd. So I’m glad someone was finally able to see things my way, at least a little.

and Anon., yes I am a “bruja”. well, not the type of witch Christianity sees (devil-worshipping woman who is suffering)-again, not putting down Christianity. But during the Burning Times, that was what people thought of when they heard the word witch. and, yet again, I take pride in my religion. =]

Thank you for clarifying and I’m sorry if it sounded negative you seem like a very nicer person.

Anonymous wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:
Anyone getting the point about why I asked the question yet?
Anonymous, you’re slightly scary. Don’t worry though, clearly it’s all part of “God’s Plan”.
How can you claim to be a Christian (or whatever religion you are) and call cherry blossom a witch? Christianity is supposed to be about love and forgiveness, isn’t it? Regardless of what you feel is ‘right’, she (like all of us) has the right to be the person she wants to be. She hasn’t told anyone they are wrong, or been hurtful or rude. She has only been respectful and understanding to the fact that we are all different. She has also questioned in an intelligent fashion the thoughts and opinions of all on this thread.

As for Jesus speaking the truth. I don’t disagree, but do you think there is only one truth? Do you think Christianity is the ONLY belief with “THE” truth?
Most religions have extremists who feel this way. That is how great atrocities are created in the world, surely?

Please, please, please actually think about what you are saying.

wow. lol! thank you. I didn’t think people would understand my reasoning. I’ve been told countless times that my thoughts are absurd. So I’m glad someone was finally able to see things my way, at least a little.

and Anon., yes I am a “bruja”. well, not the type of witch Christianity sees (devil-worshipping woman who is suffering)-again, not putting down Christianity. But during the Burning Times, that was what people thought of when they heard the word witch. and, yet again, I take pride in my religion. =]

Thank you for clarifying and I’m sorry if it sounded negative you seem like a very nicer person.

sure thing ^-^ and you didn’t sound negative. lol! oh, and thank you. you seem like a nice person too. =] I would add you to my friends list, but the whole anonymous thing kinds prevents that from happening. lol!

cherry_blossom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:
Anyone getting the point about why I asked the question yet?
Anonymous, you’re slightly scary. Don’t worry though, clearly it’s all part of “God’s Plan”.
How can you claim to be a Christian (or whatever religion you are) and call cherry blossom a witch? Christianity is supposed to be about love and forgiveness, isn’t it? Regardless of what you feel is ‘right’, she (like all of us) has the right to be the person she wants to be. She hasn’t told anyone they are wrong, or been hurtful or rude. She has only been respectful and understanding to the fact that we are all different. She has also questioned in an intelligent fashion the thoughts and opinions of all on this thread.

As for Jesus speaking the truth. I don’t disagree, but do you think there is only one truth? Do you think Christianity is the ONLY belief with “THE” truth?
Most religions have extremists who feel this way. That is how great atrocities are created in the world, surely?

Please, please, please actually think about what you are saying.

wow. lol! thank you. I didn’t think people would understand my reasoning. I’ve been told countless times that my thoughts are absurd. So I’m glad someone was finally able to see things my way, at least a little.

and Anon., yes I am a “bruja”. well, not the type of witch Christianity sees (devil-worshipping woman who is suffering)-again, not putting down Christianity. But during the Burning Times, that was what people thought of when they heard the word witch. and, yet again, I take pride in my religion. =]

Thank you for clarifying and I’m sorry if it sounded negative you seem like a very nicer person.

sure thing ^-^ and you didn’t sound negative. lol! oh, and thank you. you seem like a nice person too. =] I would add you to my friends list, but the whole anonymous thing kinds prevents that from happening. lol!

I’m not anon anymore and I’d be glad for you to add me.

Gumby wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:
Anyone getting the point about why I asked the question yet?
Anonymous, you’re slightly scary. Don’t worry though, clearly it’s all part of “God’s Plan”.
How can you claim to be a Christian (or whatever religion you are) and call cherry blossom a witch? Christianity is supposed to be about love and forgiveness, isn’t it? Regardless of what you feel is ‘right’, she (like all of us) has the right to be the person she wants to be. She hasn’t told anyone they are wrong, or been hurtful or rude. She has only been respectful and understanding to the fact that we are all different. She has also questioned in an intelligent fashion the thoughts and opinions of all on this thread.

As for Jesus speaking the truth. I don’t disagree, but do you think there is only one truth? Do you think Christianity is the ONLY belief with “THE” truth?
Most religions have extremists who feel this way. That is how great atrocities are created in the world, surely?

Please, please, please actually think about what you are saying.

wow. lol! thank you. I didn’t think people would understand my reasoning. I’ve been told countless times that my thoughts are absurd. So I’m glad someone was finally able to see things my way, at least a little.

and Anon., yes I am a “bruja”. well, not the type of witch Christianity sees (devil-worshipping woman who is suffering)-again, not putting down Christianity. But during the Burning Times, that was what people thought of when they heard the word witch. and, yet again, I take pride in my religion. =]

Thank you for clarifying and I’m sorry if it sounded negative you seem like a very nicer person.

sure thing ^-^ and you didn’t sound negative. lol! oh, and thank you. you seem like a nice person too. =] I would add you to my friends list, but the whole anonymous thing kinds prevents that from happening. lol!

I’m not anon anymore and I’d be glad for you to add me.

yay! I add ya. =] thanks!

Freedom of speech is a right that we all possess

i feel like this site has become a christian acedemy

mills wrote:
i feel like this site has become a christian acedemy

lol! not exactly. There are still other religious groups here. You just hear more from the Christians than others. =]

not for nothing but you’ve only been here 1 wwek, 3 days. i believe i might know a little bit more about this site. lol

-_-’ yes, you have been here longer than I have. But I’ve found that this is the case on many sites and such.

so you’re going to make an assumption about this site based on the fact that you’ve been to other forums? i find that a little presumptuous.

No, I’m not assuming at all. Just because I’ve been here for a week and 3 days doesn’t mean anything. Sure, you’ve been here longer. You probably know more about this site than I do. But I’ve observed that you hear more from the Christians than other religions. You hear from an occaisional atheist and such, but more from Christians. So I’m not assuming anything. It’s just what I’ve gathered so far.

so you’re saying that you’ve observed my observances? lol. you just met me and you already know what i’m suppose assimilate from this site? i will tell you that you’re sources are wrong when it comes to my opinion so please do not try and alter it in any way.

no no no! I’m not saying YOU as in yourself. I mean that a person would most likely see posts by Christians than others. I haven’t made any assumptions about you. I don’t even know you. I’ve browsed through a lot of posts and a majority of them are by Christians. yeesh! chill out. lol!

exactly, a person that has been here as long as me myself would verify my opinion that this site might contain more christians than any other. where as someone like you who has only been here of brief duration might tell me that i’m only meeting christians. wow, you’ve contradicted yourself beyond my understanding.

colinreamusi wrote:
Should I start a new thread - “Anyone notice that a strange power struggle between newbies ond veterans on this site?”

lol! that’s kinda funny. I really wasn’t trying to be a smarta** or anything. I was just saying…oh well.

I agree with colinreamusi says.
I KNOW I’ve not been on the site a long time, but I get a weird feeling when a post is going along well and someone comes along and says “put your faith in the Lord, He is the way” etc etc

If the original poster is not religious, then this post is actually counter-productive.

Please try to see the whole picture, folks.

colinreamusi wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:
Should I start a new thread - “Anyone notice that a strange power struggle between newbies ond veterans on this site?”

lol! that’s kinda funny. I really wasn’t trying to be a smarta** or anything. I was just saying…oh well.

Lol. I know. Is weird how there Mills was being so defensive about having been on the site longer than you. It reminded me of being at school and the kids who were older would sometimes use their older age as a reason to feel superior. Bizarre!

i have to defend my opinion when someone else tries to manipulate it.

mills wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:

cherry_blossom wrote:

colinreamusi wrote:
Should I start a new thread - “Anyone notice that a strange power struggle between newbies ond veterans on this site?”

lol! that’s kinda funny. I really wasn’t trying to be a smarta** or anything. I was just saying…oh well.

Lol. I know. Is weird how there Mills was being so defensive about having been on the site longer than you. It reminded me of being at school and the kids who were older would sometimes use their older age as a reason to feel superior. Bizarre!

i have to defend my opinion when someone else tries to manipulate it.

Well, I apologize if you felt offended by my statement. That really wasn’t my aim at all…and I wasn’t trying to manipulate your opinion either. I was simply saying that I’ve heard more from Christians on this site, but there are also others who speak out. That’s just from what I’ve observed. Hopefully that cleared some things up. And again, I’m sorry.

colinreamusi wrote:
Bless you Cherry Blossom. You are being so nice in the face of someone being an ***. That’s v commendable. But Mills says you were trying to manipulate his/her point of view. That’s not what was happening at all, and I’m not happy to let you take the fall for that either. Mills was being unreasonable and arrogant. That’s what I think, anyway. Could be wrong.

Thanks colinreamusi! A lot. =] But I’m not mad at him/her. I think Mills just misinterpreted my meaning, that’s all.

Ah cherry blossom…you’re too nice!
I thought you handled it very well! :-)

lol! thanks cailean. =] you guys are really nice.

two Colins I believe….

colinreamusi wrote:
Bless you Cherry Blossom. You are being so nice in the face of someone being an ***. That’s v commendable. But Mills says you were trying to manipulate his/her point of view. That’s not what was happening at all, and I’m not happy to let you take the fall for that either. Mills was being unreasonable and arrogant. That’s what I think, anyway. Could be wrong.

ok, i didn’t call anyone any names yet, but since you feel the need to label me then i will take the liberty of labeling you an incomprehensible moron. i stated a general opinion on this thread which obviously lead to a blatant harrassment on me. yes cherry blossom, you did my statement exactly when you told me i was hearing more from christians. are you denying your own words? lol. surely not when they reside a few responses above this one.

cherry_blossom wrote:

mills wrote:
i feel like this site has become a christian acedemy

lol! not exactly. There are still other religious groups here. You just hear more from the Christians than others. =]

here it is for the last time, you told me that i hear more from christians on this site. and i accept your apology cherry but as far as colinreamusi goes, you need to understand the facts before you start casting disdainful judgements on other people.