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4) The New York Times has reported that boards of elections in at least nine crucial states, including Ohio, have violated federal law in conducting purges and have been illegally using Social Security data bases as part of those purges. The Times’ Ian Urbina quotes Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman as asking the Colorado Attorney-General to review how some 2,500 citizens were removed from the registration lists there. The Times has cited purges in Colorado, Louisiana and Michigan that have apparently been conducted within 90 days of the upcoming November 4 election, violating federal law that allows states to expunge only those who have been convicted of a felony, moved out of state or died.
5) The Times has also reported that boards of elections in Nevada, North Carolina, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio have illegally used federal Social Security databases to flag and possibly eliminate voters whose registration applications were suspected of irregularities. The Times reported some 37,000 Colorado voters removed in the three weeks after July 21; Secretary Coffman said the number was 14,000.
6) Michigan elections director Christopher Thomas said his state had removed about 11,000 voters in August, while the Times estimated the real number to be closer to 33,000. Thomas refused to make the purged files public. Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land is a long-standing Republican partisan whose political activism traces back to the mid-70s when she worked for Gerald Ford’s campaign in high school. Critics charge that she functions in the traditional of Florida’s Katherine Harris and Ohio’s J. Kenneth Blackwell.
hey this is my first time voting im a new voter i’m not a democrat tho but i am voting for obama
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Things gon’na get nasty there as the tension raise…
I agree with you both… this is gonna get a whole lot uglier before it gets any better.
Democrats, particularly in Ohio, are registering voters fraudulantly– even using fake SS#’s and the names of Dallas football players! And you’re trying to blame the GOP? Ever heard of ACORN? Did you know that Democrats tried to funnel millions of dollars to ACORN attached to the new bail-out bill? And in case you didn’t know, ACORN was found guilty of voter fraud in 2004…
It is now becoming clear that there is a massive, coordinated campaign orchestrated by the Republican National Committee to commit nationwide fraud, disenfranchisement, confusion, and chaos. Nathan Sproul is behind voter fraud in many swing states, including Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia.
They have fraudulently used the name of another organization, America votes. Here is a summary of some of the various cases of voter fraud going on now.
The Republican party in Nevada ordered its employees to dispose of Democratic Voter Registrations.
Republican voter registration organizations have illegally shredded Democratic registrations in both Nevada and Oregon, which both are past their voter registration deadline of Tuesday October 12th, leaving many Democrats who thought they’d registered disenfranchised in the most important election of our lifetime.
The company Sproul & Associates, which is closely connected to the Republican National Committee and has recieved half a million dollars from them since July 14, 2004, is behind this. It is run by Nathan Sproul, a big Republican donor.
Great, let’s see your sources on fraudulent voter registration in Ohio.
Well about the GOP, let’s see: Who was it who stole the last two presidential elections?
A little bit from this post here:
10) The grassroots organizing group ACORN has come under serious attack in Nevada, Missouri, Ohio and elsewhere from Republicans attempting to negate the thousands of generally low-income citizens ACORN has registered to vote. As a matter of law, ACORN is required to report irregular registrations that come through its process. But GOP operatives have equated these with “fraudulent” filings, and a have ramped up a smear and fear campaign aimed at negating thousands of legitimate ACORN registrants throughout the US.
A little more about ACORN here:
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/4/4/…
U.S. Attorney Fired After Failing to Indict ACORN for Voter Fraud
There are new developments in the scandal over the Bush administration’s firing of eight U.S. Attorneys. One of the dismissed prosecutors has revealed that he was pressured by Republican officials to target the advocacy group ACORN for voter fraud. ACORN was working on a voter registration drive in low-income and largely minority neighborhoods in New Mexico. David Iglesias told Newsweek that he found no case worth bringing against ACORN. But that apparently did not please the White House. Last week Attorney General Alberto Gonzales” ex-chief of staff D. Kyle Sampson testified that during the run-up to the mid-term election White House adviser Karl Rove complained that Iglesias and two other U.S. Attorneys had not done enough to prosecute so-called voter fraud.
Coalesce, do you have any links on that stuff? I’d like to send them to a news organization I do some work for.
more from the “continued” part of this post:
11) The GOP continues to resist attempts to subpoena Michael Connell, a shady Republican computer operative who programmed the 2000 Bush-Cheney web site. Connell was also hired by former Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell in 2004 to tabulate the Ohio vote count. Under Connell, Ohio’s vote totals were shunted to a computer bank in the same basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee, that housed the servers of the Republican National Committee. In the early hours of the morning after election day, vote totals mysteriously began shifting from Kerry to Bush, swinging the 2004 election. Connell’s cyber-security industry colleague Stephen Spoonamore, a Republican and former McCain supporter, has said that Connell may be able to shed light on vote count rigging in the 2008 vote count as well. Attorneys in the King-Lincoln-Bronzeville civil rights lawsuit have thus far been unable to secure Connell’s sworn testimony.
Thank you. Interestsing, World Net Daily is a right wing site …
Whoa, major stuff on Daily Kos Wiki – Rumsfeld to be involved in counting? Unbelievable!!
oops, this is 2004 stuff mainly, Coalesce
The Nevada stuff is current, the other sites list collections of voter fraud throughout the years.
Are they serious?
Mainstream media telling people to pull investments out of WallStreet, why would they do that?
Pulling money out of the Stock Market would cause the collapse of WallStreet and destroy our fragile economy.
So again, I ask, “Why are people like MSNBCs Cramer telling people to get their money out?”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27045699/
It’s no great secret that MSNBC is the Pro-Obama network and that others in the Media are reporting biased Pro-Obama sentiments. Even all of the moderators of the Presidential Debates are Democrats.
So again, “Why are the so called analysts in the media telling people to pull their money out of WallStreet?”
Because a bad economy is good for Obama! The mainstream media knows it and they have stated it and you’ve probably heard them talking about it. They have said “people talking about the economy is a good thing for Obama even if he does nothing” and some are calling it a strategy and a tactic.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/do…
http://www.volkskrant.nl/achtergrond/…
Worse yet, it’s working the dow is dropping.
Does MSNBC and the like have NO SHAME?
They are perfectly fine with hurting hard working Americans to get their candidate elected. Not reporting unbiased non-partisan fair and balanced coverage of the Presidential election is one thing and that is what they have been doing through the whole Obama campaign, but to actually be reporting things that could crash the Stock Market to get Barack Obama elected is quite another and Americans should get angry and Americans should demand that they put their own personal politics aside and start reporting facts not commentaries.
Demand that they air the reports showing that Obama’s economic plan will cause a far greater deficit in the US economy than anything in McCain’s economic plan.
Demand that they report how much Obama’s economic plan will cost.
Demand that they report Obama’s planned tax hikes.
Demand that they show us an honest look at Obama’s actual voting record.
Demand that they interview Barack Obama and Joe Biden with the same interrogation style that they have done with John McCain and Sarah Palin while at the same time editing content to make McCain and Palin look bad.
Demand that they investigate the connection between Ayers and Obama with the same vigor they have done in bashing McCain and Palin.
Demand that they investigate Obama’s connection to ACORN and don’t just take his word for things as they have continually done through this election process.
Demand that they quit playing politics and do their JOBS!
If you are angry with the Mainstream media for turning journalism into a slanted ineffectual biased forum, while you are trying to decide one of the most important decisions in your life, a decision that affects the FUTURE of the WHOLE country then forward this to everyone you know. Get the word out about the media and take a stand against this atrocity!
Fizz wrote:
Are they serious? Mainstream media telling people to pull investments out of WallStreet, why would they do that?
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Demand that they quit playing politics and do their JOBS!
They are journalists, it’s their job to ‘tell it how it is’. It’s the job of the politicians to ‘tell it how it should be’. The media-journalists are saying that our economy is in for a very bad time because it is true, they are saying that unless you want to lose money you should probably get out of the market because it is true.
President Bush is saying ‘calm down, leave your money there, it’s all going to be all right’ because that is what is best for the market. It’s not actually true that you should leave your money there. It’s not actually true that it’s all going to be all right. But… that’s his job, he’s a politician, his job is to lie to the American people to accomplish greater goals.
Bush is right that if we all left our money in the market that the market wouldn’t be crashing so fast… and the media is right that corporate interests are pulling their money out anyways… so if you leave the money in, the companies will get all the profits and you will be stuck with useless junk-stock and be out 90% of your money.
So… I’m glad that they are saying what they are saying. I prefer to hear the truth, even if it is ugly, even if it means the market will be affected. I’d rather know the truth than sit idly by, smiling as the president tells me not to panic, as my stock investments bottom out and I lose my retirement to some company that sold when I stayed.
The media is doing it’s job… by telling the truth. The president is doing his job… by telling us ‘what should be’ even if it isn’t true. All is well with the world.
Companies like Wal-Mart aren’t going anywhere, there are companies that are strong that will not fall, unless their investors pull out. So I’m sorry, but I disagree with you, there are some real journalist that are telling the truth and telling people NOT to panic and NOT to completely get out of the market, it’s the irresponsble journalist that are creating the panic.
And I don’t pay a bit of attention to George W. Bush, the man is an idiot, but I really think the whole Country is going to suffer because of him, because people are holding it against John McCain because they are both Republicans and the other party is using that to their advantage, but that is just my opinion.
Fizz, this post was never about Wall Street. It’s about the GOP purging voters, destroying registrations, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Coalesce wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/poli…
This story looked interesting but I couldn’t get past my webfilter to see it, will someone tell me what it is about?
The man who I guess runs a parking lot says he “takes offense at Obama running for president,” and he’s put up a sign that says Obama supporters can’t park there. He does say he won’t go after anybody with a baseball bat. An Obama supporter (a black man) says he wouldn’t like it if the sign said “No McCain Supporters” either.
Believe me Florie, I know what all of your post are about, there’s absolutely no question in my mind about that. I just wanted to point out something that is scary for America and make clear that some democrats are far worse, by how far they will go to get their candidate elected.
Oh btw way, heard the latest news? I think you could be right McCain must be sub-human, he did the most irrational, dispicable thing yet, he called Obama decent and told people they shouldn’t be afraid of him. Shame on him.
(Don’t get to excited that was sarcasm)
Florie wrote:
I don’t believe McCain.
I didn’t think you would, you seem to find it so hard to believe that a man that actually bled for your right to belittle him would do anything or say anything decent, but I’m sure that makes it easier for you to be so completely ugly about him.
I guess that’s the difference between us that caused you to end our friendship, I can actually say that Obama did something that I respected him for, like when he told people that Palin’s daughter was off limits. But when McCain risk making his supporters mad who have been asking him to get mad and fight for them, you think he is being dishonest.
Well, that’s ok just shows that McCain is a decent and honorable man and will even risk the wrath of his very own supporters to stand up and be kind even when his opponent isn’t doing the same.
loosing a friend over politics tis a shame
I think we should vote by elimination for the office of president. As it is whomever gets elected is hated by roughly half the population from the get-go. If America gets to vote one candidate at a time off, we’ll end up with the person that the most of us are able to accept and tolerate… the least hated candidate.
Once elected I think this candidate should be an absolute dictator with full authority in all matters for 4 years. As part of this dictators ceremonial swearing in, all US citizens including the military should swear that if the dictator does not immediately and voluntarily surrender the office after 4 years that it will be each of our duties to do them any harm if it is within our means.
4 years of complete authority by alternating persons that are the least hated of the candidates… with no risk of perpetual dictatorship!
Either that, or we should elect a Magic 8 Ball, couldn’t do much worse than some presidents I could name.
lol Coalesce, interesting and kind of scary idea.
Jokes aside, half of all the people didn’t hate Bill Clinton. Sure some in the Republican party tried to take him down, but people in general liked and still like Clinton, because regardless of his BJ in the Oval Office (which should have been a private matter between him and his wife), he was a good President, the only problem that I had with him is that I think he cut the Military budget too much and I think that put our Country at risk.
But I think that if a candidate like Bill Clinton came around that we wouldn’t be so split, I mean a candidate that could lie to you and you know darn well that he is not telling the truth, but you still like him because he is just that likable. That is Bill Clinton.
Fizz wrote:
[I can actually say that Obama did something that I respected him for, like when he told people that Palin’s daughter was off limits. But when McCain risk making his supporters mad who have been asking him to get mad and fight for them, you think he is being dishonest.
Well, that’s ok just shows that McCain is a decent and honorable man and will even risk the wrath of his very own supporters to stand up and be kind even when his opponent isn’t doing the same.
If you’re talking about McCain’s finally coming out and saying “don’t be afraid of Obama,” it’s too little, too late. And after allowing Sarah Palin to make MANY speeches in which she tried to paint Obama as a terrorist, NO, I don’t believe McCain. I think unforturnately in spite of being a POW and a MAVERICK, he is a hypocrite. It’s sad. I think at one time he was better.
The difference also is that for Obama it was natural to say Palin’s family is off-limits, and he hasn’t allowed his surrogates to attack them either. But with McCain, it seems, the instinct was to let all the ugliness and rabble-rousing go on - and only to stop it after the media pointed out what he was doing. And even in his attempt to stop it, he sort of did it again with a double-edged statement: “Don’t be afraid of Obama.” Very weak.
You know what Florie, I’m so done talking to you about this, I’m so done with you picking every single thing I say apart, I’m so done with your double standard. I’m so done with your lack of respect for me, I’m so done with being treated unfairly by you. I’m so done.
Ok you don’t want to be friends with me, ok I get it, message finally received, I finally accept that my pouring my heart out to you means absolutely nothing to you. That some man that you don’t even know is more important to you then somebody that cared about you personally. I get it Florie.
But in that I would like for you to stay off my post and IF you grant me that tiny tiny bit of respect, I will stay off your post.
YOU WIN FLORIE, I hope for your sake it was worth it.
let it beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee let it beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ohhhhhh let it beeeeeee whisper words of wisdom let it beeeeee
Fizz, I sent you an answer to this on your post The Obama Tidal Wave, http://help.com/post/204750-the-obama…
I don’t think either of us has WON anything here. Mostly it’s been a fruitless battle. I don’t like war. But I think you are wrong on almost everything you’ve said about Obama & McCain.
I think these posts, once they’re put up, belong to everyone. I don’t consider this “my” post. I’m not gonna shoo anybody off.
I wish we could “get along,” but it seems to me you won’t listen to a single word I say. You’ve been researching Obama’s faults for as long as I can remember, and I don’t think you’ve owned up to ANY of McCain’s faults even once.
It’s like we live on two different planets. Or belong to two different species. How can human beings be so far apart? Neither of us can see the other person’s viewpoint at all. Weird, huh?
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