I am very sad.
I don’t want to share this to you all but i want vent, this is help.com anyway.
The person i have learned to love is not making it easier for me. I guess i give in too much and I just could not understand why i don’t receive as much in return.
Now i am moving on. But for now, please cheer me up. I would be very thankful.
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When you give so much of youself for too long you tend to get taken for granted.
I tend to hide things and people tell me to express them. I learned that i should tell and show someone i love them before it’s too late. But now what happened is i have done the showing and the telling but they just walked away. How could this have to happen?
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i dont think everytime you play the lottery to expect to really win , you try and see the outcome …
that’s it sometimes you win sometime you loose :) , but that shouldnt keep you from trying again and again and again
Wow…that’s a big lost for them. On the upside you’re too gorgeous for them anyway! I’m a guy so sadly all I can say is that I would never let you get away:) Smoogie is right and better then me at this. Sadly it up them to reconize that they took you for granted and if they do it in time…tough bananas…they lose. You won’t be sad long…time for a girl’s night out:) With that said lilies my sweet I hope you feel better….:)
I get sooo burned this time, i tell you. I get sooo weak on my knees now.
The cut is way too deep.
They also told me they’d never let me go away. But heyyyyy look what they had just done. OMG, i should have known. I should have knowwwwnnnnn. :((
life goes on my dear lilies come on chin up , get some music going , chill a bit ,try not to think about it much , life didnt end here you know , there are 2387493274983279843 guyz out there :D , maybe you just deserve a better one and this one didnt happen so you can have the better one , maybe fate just saw that and you didnt…
Ya we all fall for the same lies..Try to give them the attention they deserve…none. Allowing them in your head now will rob you of a great time. You’re free and it’s they’re doing so don’t feel guilty. Can you share the day with another friend?
Guys, please don’t be mad at me with my venting and whining. I feel very low and i just can’t get why this has to happen. I gave my all. What was so bad about it?
lol..never. I got something that may cheer you up:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdSXvU…
well not everything goes as planned you know while you may done everything right , it still might go wrong… this world is not perfect you know , you cant do 1 2 3 and expect for the same thing to happen everytime
Aww, I’m so sorry to hear Lilies. You are such a sweetheart, you don’t deserve to have your heart broken. These guys are right though, he doesn’t deserve you. Some day when the right one comes along you’ll see the difference. You will have someone who gives their all to you too and not take advantage of your caring nature. I’m sending you lots of hugs, it’s so hard and hurts so much, I know…hugs.
I don’t want to watch you tube now, sorry. :( But i will look at them later.
You see, i needed to attend stuff for school but i looked for them first of all before i did anything else. And all i get was dropping me on the air and left me in the open. :(
max_needs wrote:
Ya we all fall for the same lies..Try to give them the attention they deserve…none. Allowing them in your head now will rob you of a great time. You’re free and it’s they’re doing so don’t feel guilty. Can you share the day with another friend?
All my personal friends are busy. And i’m just facing my computer now. And i can’t see my friends when i feel this low. Gaaahhhhhh!!!!
Miss enigma, i’ve been waiting for this kind of guy. We’ve been dating a month or two now and things were really working. He has flaws, i have mine too and we agree to disagree at times and we always get back nice.
But i am just hurt when he just needs to walk away like that when there was so much to talk about. :(
And i feel i am the one giving too much, reacting much when things are not right and they are just calm and happy about things.
In a relationship, do i really need to work hard for it?
It’s a the new pink video…it’ll be there later. We’re here now:)
I met a lady in the meads
full beautiful
a faerie’s child
her hair was long
her foot was light
and her eyes were wild.
I love that poem…if you do too, then you’re a romantic person of the old school.
So you tend to be romantic, powerfully. It hurts more when you love intensely, but good for you to be that way! You GO!
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I am 30 years old and yes i feel like i am the classic type alien. :(
He is not there anymore, he has left. And not answering me. In fact, i caught him lying saying he was at a lecture but he was online at the same time. When i asked him about it, he said he was about to give me a message but he was called away.
You need to draw back from him and become somewhat aloof for a while. This action will help to build you confidence in handling him.
*lilies wrote:
Miss enigma, i’ve been waiting for this kind of guy. We’ve been dating a month or two now and things were really working. He has flaws, i have mine too and we agree to disagree at times and we always get back nice.But i am just hurt when he just needs to walk away like that when there was so much to talk about. :(
And i feel i am the one giving too much, reacting much when things are not right and they are just calm and happy about things.
In a relationship, do i really need to work hard for it?
It’s a partnership, you both have to be willing to work for it and it shouldn’t always be hard. You are there for him right? Giving, loving, listening, helping…doing everything that you can…why isn’t he? Is that really what you want? I feel so bad for you because I know what it’s like, don’t you want someone who sees your feelings as important and values them?
so he’s a lier at least that’s a good point you should work on more , i guess it’s better for the realtionship to end now than for later on when you start finding his lies or something…
He puts his work as his priority. I really don’t have a problem with that and we have agreed with it hundreds of times. All i ask is a little time. A little sweetness so i would feel the security i need. And i have talked about it with him many times but he tends to forget it. All day i was at work and i’m tired and in physical pain. And he knows all about it. But he does not support me with it.
He said “you know Mondays and Tuesdays are always busy” , “i’m sorry i have to go, bye”.
Guys,Please tell me, did i do anything wrong?
Miss Enigma, i do love him. I have learned to and i have chosen to. I feel bad that i have failed on this. Yes it is suppose to be partnership. But where is my partner? he is right there not doing anything while i was texting. He said he did not have enough credit.
Any person who is inlove would go out of their way to be with their partner knowing they are in need of support.
tricky wrote:
so he’s a lier at least that’s a good point you should work on more , i guess it’s better for the realtionship to end now than for later on when you start finding his lies or something…
I am starting to see that. Do you believe that there are times when you just WANT to be blind? :(((
arrggghh!!
Noooo, you didn’t do anything wrong. If he called you and was upset would you brush him off like that? Ofcourse not, you wouldn’t do that to anyone. Are we brushing you off saying we are busy, so sorry, have to go…nope!
You didn’t fail, he seems to have failed you. I don’t think you should be taking all the responsibility for this. Sure we all play a part but Lilies, you know he has failed you.
And yes we do want to be blind at times, you just want to be loved and sometimes it sets you up to be hurt. You can’t continue in a one-sided relationship, it simply isn’t fair.
lilies, if a guy can’t see the beautiful person you are inside and out and can’t appreciate your sensitivity and in return treats you so harshly, I would really question his “love”. He seems to be very selfish and preoccupied in his own life and he is not generous with you. You are too sweet and too good to him and he uses your weakness. Talk about how you feel will never work with him. Don’t call him anymore. As hard as it would be, see how long would it take for him to miss you. He is too sure of himself for some reason. Let him do the run.
*lilies wrote:
tricky wrote:I am starting to see that. Do you believe that there are times when you just WANT to be blind? :(((arrggghh!!
so he’s a lier at least that’s a good point you should work on more , i guess it’s better for the realtionship to end now than for later on when you start finding his lies or something…
yeah ofcourse sometimes we want to be blind and sometimes we even lie on ourselves
Miss Enigma,
He did that to me, you got the point. So i called him and he said ‘i’m sorry i’m in a lecture, i’ll talk to you later’, then the line got cut off.
I texted him three times (the text was expensive) hrrrmmmmmm..
Nothing in return. He came online to explain but he said he had to go back to work/lecture in some minutes. While we were still discussing things, he just said goodbye he had to go.
And he does not call me. I do all the calling. :(((( wft. :((( i am just soooo…. gaaahh. :(((
I want to be loved. I love him. But this is really hurting me.
And he told me “it is not fair, i wanted to send you message, but my superior called me before i could even sit on my chair”.
I’d do what Smoogie said and just not call or contact him at all, is it worth the hurt for a bit of love when he has “the time”?
beatricegalant wrote:
lilies, if a guy can’t see the beautiful person you are inside and out and can’t appreciate your sensitivity and in return treats you so harshly, I would really question his “love”. He seems to be very selfish and preoccupied in his own life and he is not generous with you. You are too sweet and too good to him and he uses your weakness. Talk about how you feel will never work with him. Don’t call him anymore. As hard as it would be, see how long would it take for him to miss you. He is too sure of himself for some reason. Let him do the run.
I wish you were here for some hugs. Tell me, Am i stupid Bea?
Am i not worth it?
smoogie. wrote:
You need to draw back from him and become somewhat aloof for a while. This action will help to build you confidence in handling him.
I am, i’m doing so. :( But you know the feeling like you want to go on and move on but you still can’t help but cry? That’s the phase i am in now.
You ARE worth it, you just need someone who sees it! You aren’t stupid at all, don’t blame yourself.
Because if i am more than what i am now, he could just love me and hold me like how he is supposed to do. :((((
omg. :(((
Lilies, if in any relationship one has to do all the calling, all the loving, all the wanting and the other is not reciprocating or appreciating anything you do it is emotional abuse. If a loved one hangs up on you, it is not only rude but also boorish, extremely disrespectful and insulting. Are these the way how he feels about you? Big hugs for you lilies, you are not stupid but a very generous and loving woman. You are worth more than him, just read for instance max_needs’ reply! You deserve better.
Crying is a good thing its very cathartic. Eventually you will get sick of crying and start to move forward. Pity we as women can’t grow a break up beard. hehe
I agree totally Beatrice and Smoogie.
Lilies, why should you have to change in order for someone to love you? You are a wonderful person just as you are. If you changed he likely wouldn’t hold you anyway, he would just find more to complain about, at least that is how it sounds.
He has not been texting me for some weeks now. So i do that. I do the calling too. Because he says why would he call when we can talk at the end of the day. In some petty arguments, i have told him we should stop seeing each other, he cried he did not want to. And he said he loves me.
That is why i am holding on to it. Hanging to it.
He has been disrespectful when he does something like this in the past weeks (since he went back to work) but i have been understanding him because i think that’s how i should be….a girlfriend who needs to understand her bf’s schedule.
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smoogie. wrote:
Crying is a good thing its very cathartic. Eventually you will get sick of crying and start to move forward. Pity we as women can’t grow a break up beard. hehe
Goodness, i’ve been crying and whining but good thing no amount of beard has shown just yet. i want to smile but… :((
miss_enigma wrote:
I agree totally Beatrice and Smoogie.Lilies, why should you have to change in order for someone to love you? You are a wonderful person just as you are. If you changed he likely wouldn’t hold you anyway, he would just find more to complain about, at least that is how it sounds.
i need to change because i want to be loved. :((( i’ve been like this for too long and i need to improve myself to be loved. It is not easy to be left hanging and then to feel like they ‘truly’ love you when they get the time.
There is being understanding and then there is being taken advantage of my dear. Ofcourse he cried, he has a woman who will do anything for him and he can be an insensitive you know what, in return. Don’t mistake that for caring,if he cared he wouldn’t hang up on you or just walk away. Please don’t allow him to do that to you.
Here are just a few points of an unacceptable behaviour from men and women but in your case from your boyfriend’s:
1. lying; 2. hanging up the phone on you; 3. cheating; 4. betraying your trust; 5. manipulating you to become someone of his/her liking; 6. not respecting your friends and family; 7. abuse. Your boyfriend seems to scored 5 out of these 7. Lilies, YOU DESERVE BETTER!!!!!!!
*lilies wrote:
miss_enigma wrote:i need to change because i want to be loved. :((( i’ve been like this for too long and i need to improve myself to be loved. It is not easy to be left hanging and then to feel like they ‘truly’ love you when they get the time.
I agree totally Beatrice and Smoogie.Lilies, why should you have to change in order for someone to love you? You are a wonderful person just as you are. If you changed he likely wouldn’t hold you anyway, he would just find more to complain about, at least that is how it sounds.
If you love yourself hun, you will see that there is nothing to change, that you deserve better. That’s a form of control, the more you tell us the more this man sounds emotionally abusive. I’m sorry to say that but it really seems the case.
Your boyfriend is mentally unstable. He has issues from the past he had not gotten through yet. He shows no respect towards you, no matter how much love and understanding you show and give. He lashes out on you. He is really a sick man lilies, get rid of him.
Oh. :( does he sound like that? he is very innocent and caring. But i can’t believe he is doing this now. I told him something must have changed him to treat me so differently and he said there is none for me to be worried about.
No he is not mentally unstable. :((( i can’t believe you say that. He is very kind.
But of course i need to get your opinion, that is why i posted it here. I did not want to share this big part of me, but i need to let it out. I don’t have someone to talk to.
He has past issues yes, i think we all do…but i thought we have already solved it.
Lilies…if he were caring and kind, he wouldn’t have done to you what he did. Think about it.
lilies, send me an email where you can tell me a little more. Especially about him.
lilies, if he is caring and kind he wouldn’t have done what he did to you. ?????
I am there, i know what you mean, but is it because i am less understanding?
I don’t want my relationship to end simply because i demand or complain too much.
That is what i’m thinking that is why i am trying to give my all, hoping it would work this time.
Lilies, see if any of this applies to him and be honest when you ask yourself these questions…
1. Do you feel afraid of your partner so that you cannot discuss whatever is bothering you?
2. Does your partner frequently humiliate you, criticize you or undermine your self- esteem?
3. Does your partner try to isolate you from friends and family?
4. Does your partner discourage you from working or asserting your financial independence?
5. Has your partner stolen from you or run you into debt?
6. Does your relationship swing from extremes of distance and closeness, as manipulated by your partner?
7. Has your partner damaged or destroyed anything that belongs to you?
8. Do you feel there is something wrong in your relationship but you cannot say what exactly? Do you feel trapped in your relationship and are you afraid of your partner?
9. Do you feel that your partner controls your life?
10. Does your partner act possessive and accuse you of being unfaithful and involved in affairs?
11. Does he belittle your ideas, thoughts and feelings?
12. Do you have to account to him every moment of your time?
13. Do you have to account for every penny you spend?
14. Does he threaten or intimidate you to win an argument?
15. Does he blame you for every problem, even his behaviour towards you?
16. Does he regularly threaten to leave you or the kids?
17. Does he make you feel that you are alone and unwanted?
18. Does he ridicule or insult your most valued beliefs, gender, sexuality or ability?
19. Does he withdraw approval, appreciation and affection?
20. Does he call you names and shout at you in public? Does he humiliate you in private or in public?
21. Does he manipulate you with lies and high drama?
22. Does he manipulate your sexual relationship based on his moods? Seeks sex to make up after an argument?
23. In sum, he generally makes you feel that you are not good for anything, unwanted, and a burden to everyone.
Just keep these questions in your mind, this is a new relationship and things may not have come up yet. It seems as though he is withholding affection and treating you like “damaged goods”, that is undermining your self esteem and could be why you feel this is your fault.
I do some stuff to him above. I can be very honest about that. That is why i am thinking that it could also be my fault. I tend to get very jealous and possessive. He is not. He is different. He lets me free to roam all the time. No restrictions.
Either way, I don’t think this is a healthy pairing. Did you have a painful childhood?
Lilies, it is hard on this end to know how much of the problem is him, and how much is you. And I see that is where you are struggling too. You have those questions about am I understanding enough, am I giving enough, am I demanding to much, am I too possessive. Those are only questions you can answer. Has he told any of those things are a problem in the relationship?
I have a husband who works all time and travels more then he is home. I know even if I am down and needing him, that does not mean he is available at the moment. That does not mean he does not care or that if he was available he would not be there for me. So I would ask the question, “is he not being able to respond to your because of his schedule or because of how he feels about you?” There is such a fine line here. Of trying to figure out am I the problem or is it the problem on his end.
I know we can tend to blame ourself for something that should really be on our partner. I see you are wanting to look at yourself, which I think is good, but don’t blame yourself for things that he should or should not be doing.
lilies, you just want to hold onto someone who loves you but the way he shows his love to you is confusing. You really don’t know where do you stand in his life right, because he sends you mixed messages. Don’t panic, let it cool down, you too calm down and see what really happened that triggered this.
Hi Babacup, you are right, i am struggling on this, i want to understand these things better because i want to help myself. This guy helps me too infact has arrange counseling for me months back. So i am kind of secured that he does have feelings for me. So i do have questions like, do i lack something that i need to possess for me to be more lovable? do i need to do something more or to avoid doing something so i would not be judged as something else.
In my being jealous, yes we have talked about it and has given me hugs and support and thoroughly explain why i don’t need to be. He has spent much time explaining to me about stuff too but i don’t think we have been problems about jealousy lately.
Is he not being responsive to me because of his schedule or because he does not feel anything at all or if he has changed? i really do not know.
In this side he said Mondays and Tuesdays are really mega busy. I am there, i get it because we talked about it before he went back to work and i told him i would understand. BUT today i felt insulted because he had to walk away just like that. Did not reply to my text. Caught him online but did not say anything to me but when i called he said he was in his lecture. Asked him about it and he said he was about to send me message because he saw me online but his boss called him.
But Baba, i don’t need him beside me, I only needed time. Even one minute.
Is it really a big thing to give in the part of the guys?
Now i am thinking of your valid question:
Didn’t he talk to me because he was busy and called away…
or didn’t talk to me because his feelings have just changed.
beatricegalant wrote:
lilies, you just want to hold onto someone who loves you but the way he shows his love to you is confusing. You really don’t know where do you stand in his life right, because he sends you mixed messages. Don’t panic, let it cool down, you too calm down and see what really happened that triggered this.
That’s true. I really don’t know where i stand. And i don’t like to ask him bec i don’t want to scare him off. I have waiting for him to say something securing but nothing came. But i keep on waiting.
Lilies I am sorry you are in pain, I hope peace comes to your heart soon. I have read the whole post, I understand you have been dating for about a month? It is very early in this relationship. The expectations are high, I have come to learn a very important lesson. We as women need to talk through our problems in order to understand them. Men are very diffirent in this case, they withdraw until they feel better or have an answer. Men and women communicate in a verry different way. I think you should let him have a little space to figure things out, when he is ready he will come to you. Be paitient though it is our nature to talk talk talk, it is not theirs.
That is so right libragirl12. When men don’t want to be found, they make sure they won’t pick up the phone, answer emails, or text. They think when we call often is because we want to check on them when in fact we just want to talk.
beatricegalant wrote:
That is so right libragirl12. When men don’t want to be found, they make sure they won’t pick up the phone, answer emails, or text. They think when we call often is because we want to check on them when in fact we just want to talk.
Yep I learned that one the hard way :(
*lilies wrote:
Unfortunately yes. :(
I’m glad you are getting into some counseling. I did too and it really effected my relationships until I learned how it did..that’s the only reason I asked. I didn’t want to bring up painful memories but it is actually a key to understanding yourself and your expectations. I’m sorry to hear that Lilies. *hugs*
Like I said with my husband, there are so many times that we have to get cut off in conversations. So I have come to accept it and understand it. But I know with no doubt at all, that it all because of his work. I can see when he is home that there are times when he is on one phone call to the next to the next without a minute in between. He gets in a rhythm and gets a lot accomplished. So I know him well and know that when he is in work mode, it would ruin his rhythm to deal with a minor home issue or to just chat with his wife. Big ones of course he would drop work and move mountains to be there for me or the children.
Without knowing a lot about him or your relationship, I just feel like that is the case with him. Let him finish his work day and see if he does not call as soon as he can.
Some months knowing each other and the real thing came a month or two now. We don’t have an anniversary. He does not seem to be into it. *rolls eyes. It’s making me laugh.
beatricegalant wrote:
That is so right libragirl12. When men don’t want to be found, they make sure they won’t pick up the phone, answer emails, or text. They think when we call often is because we want to check on them when in fact we just want to talk.
Yes i have observed that and that is so unfair. I just want to talk to him about my day and let him ask me how my day went, that is all. I did not ask him to chit chat. All i wanted to get is one minute of his time.
miss_enigma wrote:
*lilies wrote:I’m glad you are getting into some counseling. I did too and it really effected my relationships until I learned how it did..that’s the only reason I asked. I didn’t want to bring up painful memories but it is actually a key to understanding yourself and your expectations. I’m sorry to hear that Lilies. *hugs*
Unfortunately yes. :(
i have been trying to understand the effects of my childhood. I told a very special person about it ….every detail about it months back. It was horribly painful.
*lilies wrote:
miss_enigma wrote:
*lilies wrote:I’m glad you are getting into some counseling. I did too and it really effected my relationships until I learned how it did..that’s the only reason I asked. I didn’t want to bring up painful memories but it is actually a key to understanding yourself and your expectations. I’m sorry to hear that Lilies. *hugs*
Unfortunately yes. :(i have been trying to understand the effects of my childhood. I told a very special person about it ….every detail about it months back. It was horribly painful.
I can imagine. It is so hard to go back there and you were very courageous to do that. It really does effect us in so many ways in adulthood. Counseling will help with that, therapy is a wonderful healing thing. There is no shame in it whatsoever.
libragirl12 wrote:
Lilies I am sorry you are in pain, I hope peace comes to your heart soon. I have read the whole post, I understand you have been dating for about a month? It is very early in this relationship. The expectations are high, I have come to learn a very important lesson. We as women need to talk through our problems in order to understand them. Men are very diffirent in this case, they withdraw until they feel better or have an answer. Men and women communicate in a verry different way. I think you should let him have a little space to figure things out, when he is ready he will come to you. Be paitient though it is our nature to talk talk talk, it is not theirs.
I will give him space, in fact, i don’t intend to communicate. It hurts a lot.
It is ok to just let the dust settle, take a few, gather yourself and hisself and see where you are at that time. I think not contacting him for a few days is ok. It will give you both time to put things in perspective. Meanwhile I will pray for you, for peace and calm and love to be sent your way.
You are in great mental,emotional anguish. I hope you are able to remove yourself from your surroundings today. Take a drive, go to a temple or get a massage, or meditate. Do something away from where you are,you need some peace of mind
Day 1
Love is patient
Be completely humble and gentle; be patient,
bearing with one another in love. —Ephesians 4:2 NIV
Love works. It is life’s most powerful motivator and has far greater depth and meaning than most people realize. It always does what is best for others and can empower us to face the greatest of problems. We are born with a lifelong thirst for love. Our hearts desperately need it like our lungs need oxygen. Love changes our motivation for living. Relationships become meaningful with it. No marriage is successful without it.
Love is built on two pillars that best define what it is. Those pillars are patience and kindness. All other characteristics of love are extensions of these two attributes. And that’s where your dare will begin. With patience.
Love will inspire you to become a patient person. When you choose to be patient, you respond in a positive way to a negative situation. You are slow to anger. You choose to have a long fuse instead of a quick temper. Rather than being restless and demanding, love helps you settle down and begin extending mercy to those around you. Patience brings an internal calm during an external storm.
No one likes to be around an impatient person. It causes you to overreact in angry, foolish, and regrettable ways. The irony of anger toward a wrongful action is that it spawns new wrongs of its own. Anger almost never makes things better. In fact, it usually generates additional problems. But patience stops problems in their tracks. More than biting your lip, more than clapping a hand over your mouth, patience is a deep breath. It clears the air. It stops foolishness from whipping its scorpion tail all over the room. It is a choice to control your emotions rather than allowing your emotions to control you, and shows discretion instead of returning evil for evil.
If your spouse offends you, do you quickly retaliate, or do you stay under control? Do you find that anger is your emotional default when treated unfairly? If so, you are spreading poison rather than medicine.
Anger is usually caused when the strong desire for something is mixed with disappointment or grief. You don’t get what you want and you start heating up inside. It is often an emotional reaction that flows out of our own selfishness, foolishness, or evil motives.
Patience, however, makes us wise. It doesn’t rush to judgment but listens to what the other person is saying. Patience stands in the doorway where anger is clawing to burst in, but waits to see the whole picture before passing judgment. The Bible says, “He who is slow to anger has great understanding, but he who is quick-tempered exalts folly” (Proverbs 14:29).
As sure as a lack of patience will turn your home into a war zone, the practice of patience will foster peace and quiet. “A hot-tempered man stirs up strife, but the slow to anger calms a dispute” (Proverbs 15:18). Statements like these from the Bible book of Proverbs are clear principles with timeless relevance. Patience is where love meets wisdom. And every marriage needs that combination to stay healthy.
Patience helps you give your spouse permission to be human. It understands that everyone fails. When a mistake is made, it chooses to give them more time than they deserve to correct it. It gives you the ability to hold on during the tough times in your relationship rather than bailing out under the pressure.
But can your spouse count on having a patient wife or husband to deal with? Can she know that locking her keys in the car will be met by your understanding rather than a demeaning lecture that makes her feel like a child? Can he know that cheering during the last seconds of a football game won’t invite a loud-mouthed laundry list of ways he should be spending his time? It turns out that few people are as hard to live with as an impatient person.
What would the tone and volume of your home be like if you tried this biblical approach: “See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another” (1 Thessalonians 5:15).
Few of us do patience very well, and none of us do it naturally. But wise men and women will pursue it as an essential ingredient to their marriage relationships. That’s a good starting point to demonstrate true love.
Today’s Dare
The first part of this dare is fairly
simple. Although love is communicated
in a number of ways, our words often
reflect the condition of our heart. For
the next day, resolve to demonstrate
patience and to say nothing negative
to your spouse at all. If the temptation
arises, choose not to say anything. It’s
better to hold your tongue than to say
something you’ll regret
Did anything happen today to cause anger toward your mate?
Were you tempted to think disapproving thoughts and to let them come out in words?
*HUGS tightly* I am so sorry… But you cant be neglected. You are a special person. You shouldnt feel like that. I hope everything gets fine with you. Take Care.
*HUGS*
Throwing up is a sign of anxiety. Try some breathing exercises. Bet you’re hardly eating too this will make you feel like vomiting. You need to get some girl friends around and eat a meal. Food for body and mind..
Hello friend,
Love is a complicated, fantastic, cruel, nasty thing. A few things that come to mind,
“love can build you up, love can bring you down.”
“Even the strongest of us can be brought to our knees by love.” (This can mean by falling in love or loosing it.)
Being in love often brings with it, two conflicting emotions. The feeling of complete happiness when together, the feeling of grief when parted. ( Meaning, even for the shortest time.) It is like a part yourself is missing, untill your loved one is back with you again.
When the relationship falls apart or fails for any reason, you are left to grieve for some one you loved. Only time can help with this. It is extremely painful and hurts tremendously.
The same as any other grief.
One more saying about love that comes to mind is this one.
“Only love can break a heart, only love can mend it.”
I am sorry that you are hurting so much, be kind to yourself and let time help to heal the hurt.
Lilies im so sorry you are not doing well.Give it some time and take care of YOU. I hope you get well soon.Im here for you.xoxo
You say up there you want cheering up. Two funny kids quotes to start the cheering up off.
7.
TEACHER: In this box, I have a 10-foot snake.
SAMMY: You can’t fool me, Teacher…snakes don’t have feet.
8.
TEACHER: How can you prevent diseases caused by biting insects?
JOSE: Don’t bite any.
Hope some others will join in.
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Q. What do you call someone who is addicted to the computer?
A. Anything you want, they are not listening.
When i logged out from here hours ago, he sent me text messages in answer to what i sent him. I slept and he called. But did not talk long. We are talking now and i am calmer, because i have slept and the issue has subsided.
He says he just wants me to be patient. He wants me to wait.
Sorry lillies your having so much inner turmoil.Space apart sometimes is a good thing for both to assess what it is they truly want, and are willing to invest in a relationship. You deserve to be happy and not getting sick over this. Please make yourself the priority, not this relationship.If you remain mentally healthy, and strong, you will be in a better mode a make a sound decision on this rocky relationship. Females have, and do express our emotions more easily then males. Thus that book titled I think *Men are from venus, Women from Mars* that’s just the differenceof the sexes.He really should be showing a more sensitivity to your concerns. Tell him how you feel when you you both are on an even keil, and tell how how bad this relationship is going and you need his participation to also help make this relationship work. He either will give this he’s #1 priority or he won’t. you’ll know from this what to do in the future on handling this conflict of wills. All my best to you.. Hoping you get the results your seeking :)
lilies I am so glad you feel better. seas light told you all, she is right. Take it easy and be strong for yourself. Big hugs.
Seems like i need to forget about the little time i need because i have to understand his side….when i am only asking for less than a minute of his time.
And he is now saying i have brought him extra stress.
I don’t understand. If he gave me a little of his time, i would not have reacted the way i did.
What did i do wrong?
You didn’t do anything wrong. Would it be possible to agree on a certain time when you call and he is available or vica versa? It seems to me men in general don’t like random calls. They think we are checking on them…when in fact we just want to hear their voice.
That is true. I just missed him. I did not talk with him straight 13 hours so i was looking for him :(
He says he is crying and hurting. And it saddens me that i hurt him. Because i don’t trust him that much. Huh. So what about my need of his time? so i would just forget my needs and attend to his and be understanding? is that what i should do?
To be honest, i want to be a better girlfriend.
No, both of you have to agree on a happy medium. Agree on a time when is the best to call each of you (counting time differences) and agree to text or call only if it is an emergency. I know it doesn’t sound very romantic, especially when we miss someone we love so much. We women want to shower our loved ones with our affection all the time but most of the men are behaving like cats, after a little petting they had enough…..You are a wonderful and caring girlfriend and should not focus on his crying and hurt that much, after all, it was him he made you cry to a point of throwing up. Tomorrow is another day and just agree on a time when it is the best for the both of you to talk.
beatricegalant wrote:
You didn’t do anything wrong. Would it be possible to agree on a certain time when you call and he is available or vica versa? It seems to me men in general don’t like random calls. They think we are checking on them…when in fact we just want to hear their voice.
Mondays and Tuesdays are bad for him. He says he was in physical stress. He is an achiever. So he takes all his lectures very very seriously. We have not agreed to do anything like you said because he is now very tired and that he needs to sleep….like a rubber band, he’s getting away again. And he comes back when he is ready.
Seas, thank you i actually have a copy of that book. I have read it cover to cover. It says men need to be trusted. But they should also need to understand that women also need to be cherished and supported.
I want to be supported.
Because that is all i need.
♪ qΛ§Ħ ♪ wrote:
*HUGS tightly* I am so sorry… But you cant be neglected. You are a special person. You shouldnt feel like that. I hope everything gets fine with you. Take Care.*HUGS*
Thank you. But it’s just the way i feel now. I guess i am wrong feeling this way.
Hi lilies, I hope that you feel better. You’re right, you are giving too much and not much is being given in return to you. I hope that you have something to smile about pretty soon! What can I do to make that happen?
smoogie. wrote:
Throwing up is a sign of anxiety. Try some breathing exercises. Bet you’re hardly eating too this will make you feel like vomiting. You need to get some girl friends around and eat a meal. Food for body and mind..
I did not eat and i don’t feel like swallowing anything.
I agree, we need to feel cherished and supported and when the promised call doesn’t come or when they seem like they call when they feel like, that doesn’t make us feel cherished or supported. We begin to question if they really are serious about us. Was he always like this or just lately?
Oh girls, i am so glad i am not the only one with this feeling. It helps to know that i’m not the only one in this boat. I feel sick thinking really.
I am actually surrendering it. I can’t hold on with this kind of relationship anymore. It’s making me in panic and in misery. He condemns me for thinking of giving up on us because he was shaking when he heard i would try to let him go.
Is that our role as women? i don’t understand men at all.
littlenick wrote:
Hi lilies, I hope that you feel better. You’re right, you are giving too much and not much is being given in return to you. I hope that you have something to smile about pretty soon! What can I do to make that happen?
Thank you littlenick. I also hope to feel better. Do you think i should stay in this relationship?
**Rainbow Girl** wrote:
Lilies im so sorry you are not doing well.Give it some time and take care of YOU. I hope you get well soon.Im here for you.xoxo
Thank you Crista. I owe you a long shout.
As you know Lil, have my own demons lately, and my only comment is, it will take time and you staying busy.
Meanwhile, we love you and hugs my dear friend !
thep wrote:
Hello friend,Love is a complicated, fantastic, cruel, nasty thing. A few things that come to mind,
“love can build you up, love can bring you down.”
“Even the strongest of us can be brought to our knees by love.” (This can mean by falling in love or loosing it.)
Being in love often brings with it, two conflicting emotions. The feeling of complete happiness when together, the feeling of grief when parted. ( Meaning, even for the shortest time.) It is like a part yourself is missing, untill your loved one is back with you again.When the relationship falls apart or fails for any reason, you are left to grieve for some one you loved. Only time can help with this. It is extremely painful and hurts tremendously.
The same as any other grief.One more saying about love that comes to mind is this one.
“Only love can break a heart, only love can mend it.”I am sorry that you are hurting so much, be kind to yourself and let time help to heal the hurt.
Thank you thep, for this, for the shout and for trying to take the cobwebs away. I want to take my time as i get tired reaching out. I guess i am working on it too much and it is unfair if i am doing the job but the other does less.
But he says he is doing the best that he can, only that he could not give what i truly need because he is very busy and i need to understand.
Are all men the same?
I don’t think all men are the same. If it’s too much for you just try not to think about it for a while, do something nice for yourself to relax you…have a cup of tea, read a book, have a nice hot bath or a peaceful walk. Give it some time.
Oh, thank goodness…glad you cleared that up MsE…had me worried for a moment!
Personally, always thought all women were the same….well, let me clear that up! They all read the same book, the cover is just different!
Just kidding…don’t want to be considered “male you know what!” Unfortunately, relationships are like going to the casino, LOTS OF LUCK! Really, been studying this all my life and there is no good answer to the man/woman relationship. It is way too complicated for human minds to comprehend.
So today, my philosophy is, “take one day at a time, have fun today, and get up tomorrow, and do it all over again!” Don’t try to figure it out, just have fun. Be nice to each other and don’t forget the three majic words, “you’re right dear!”
I shall do something nice today after i do this research thing and it’s making me stressed too.
Cotton, if your partner is pulling away from giving you affection, would it result to some panic? i would like to hear it from you because you are a man of experience.
I am also doing my Phd and i get busy with many things but that does not stop me to multi task.
Yes, experience I do have Lil…but, good grief, that is a “tuff one!” MOST of the time, young men do not know how to communicate their feelings, me included sometimes…Something is bothering him and he is afraid to tell you. At least, that is my experience. We have talked about this in the past, well, to some degree and the answer had something to do with the way he grew up…usually! And, some men are very insecure. He maybe intimidated by you…don’t know the circumstances enough to speak intelligently on this subject…but, just thought I would throw that out there.
Lil, we will talk more about this later…got to watch favorite team play!
Bottomline, don’t try to figure it out…have found there is no answer to some relationships. It either clicks or it does not..if the chemistry is there for both parties, and that is the key, both parties, it works…if not, it does not work. That is not knock on the other party, just way it works! Jimmy Buffett was right, “relationships, who needs them!” But, who can do without them…after love is what makes the World go around…and in my case, stop turning sometimes…loll..
Lilies, I just stopped in to let you know that I think you are a very special young woman. Educated, well spoken and devoted to those you love, is how I see you. I hope your boyfriend is a special as you are and that he gets his priorities straigtened out. It seems to me that he is feeling stetched too far by his work and is unable to cope. That may a indicate a person who is suffering from low self- esteem. Wouldn’t that explain his insistance that he is busy at work and that he expects you to understand?
Uhm hi c-eek, than you for dropping by. My guy also has troubles with stuff. We have agreed that the Mondays and Tuesdays are always busy. But i just needed some attention, only a message no other chit-chat with me. He said i should not panic because he would always come back when he has the time.
But it gets me frustrated. But i have decided not to expect anything.
I know I may be alittle late. Sometimes when we plan things they don’t always go the way we planned. All we can do is the best we can everyday and just keep doing what you can. I know this may not help, but I hope you feel better.
It is Tuesday today and another busy day for him. We just talked for like an hour and told me he blocked me at msn because he wanted to have some space. To be honest i hated it. Why would he do that?
He still insists that i need to trust him. If i will then we would not have a hard time. He said he tries so hard to reassure me but he hopes i would not be so cruel to him by telling him we need to stop seeing each other.
I told him i was giving up. Because to be honest, this is putting too much pressure to me. But we are still together now, i just can’t let him go too.
Hmm. I don’t know Lilies, I’m biased a bit because I’ve been in abusive relationships but that really seems manipulative and controlling to me. Why would he have to block you on msn? Sounds like he is putting the blame on you. Manipulating your emotions saying you would be cruel to break up with him yet he’s being cruel too. I really just don’t have a good feeling about this guy. See what others think.
He said he needed to block mee because he got very upset with me for reacting the way i did. I was frustrated not being able to talk to him and i felt like i was loosing him every second last night and he just went to say ‘i’m sorry i had to go, bye’.
So i panicked and i said i was not going to hold on for too long. And i told him we needed to stop this relationship as i could not hold on a little bit more.
So he said he needed to talk to his friend without me knowing he was online because i might turn up online when he was still upset.
But now he is asking me to trust him. How would i be able to trust him when he was hiding something from me? well he said he was not hiding. He just needed to talk to his friend and that’s what he badly needed.
He does put the blame on me. Because he said i don’t trust him.
He’s not considering your feelings from the sounds of it. You don’t trust him but he isn’t helping that any with his actions and then is putting it back on you. I strongly suggest you cut all contact for a bit. Don’t call, text or message at all..if he does, ignore it. You need some time to think this through. Take it, and don’t feel bad about it. Why can he say he needs space but you can’t? He’s making all the rules. I could be wrong but it sends up some serious red flags for me. Don’t you feel that way too, deep down? Don’t ignore the warning signs that you are getting, if you are getting them - trust your judgment, what is it telling you?
I feel too that he is not considering my feelings. But i also want to consider his being busy. :( i want to understand him because i don’t want him to think i am not considering his situation too.
So that is why i am confused.
Deep down i think something is going on. I asked him but he said nothing is going on and he is trying his best to handle me. And he said he even spends every single free time of his with me.
I am not ignoring the warning signs but this is too much for me to bear.
Well, just hang in there and see where it goes..inclined to agree with MsE…but, you know your man, we don’t…in time, the light so shall shine thru and you will be able to deal with the results. That is what we do when we care!
*lilies wrote:
I am 30 years old and yes i feel like i am the classic type alien. :(He is not there anymore, he has left. And not answering me. In fact, i caught him lying saying he was at a lecture but he was online at the same time. When i asked him about it, he said he was about to give me a message but he was called away.
AWE, another pity party for lilies, no thanks
{Felicity} wrote:
AWE, another pity party for lilies, no thanks
Felicity, this is not your usual response to anything! What’s up with this?
Florie wrote:
{Felicity} wrote:
AWE, another pity party for lilies, no thanksFelicity, this is not your usual response to anything! What’s up with this?
Everybody needs cheering up sometimes mamabear. You of all people know this. I hope you will feel better after a good nights sleep. Thats goes for both of you.{=0)
Lilies I didn’t read all of these responses, but I went about half way through. The thing is you cannot be hard on yourself. You did nothing wrong as a person. You gave the relationship your all, but sometimes the other person isn’t always on the same page as you. The important thing was you were yourself the entire time, and if a person is not reciprocating your feelings, then maybe it is time to move on.
In any case, you’ve said you have issues with yourself. In my own experience, I’ve found that low self-esteem, and other “issues” can sometimes drive a person away from you… even if they do love you. If you don’t love yourself, how can anyone love YOU? I learned this the hard way, which is why I continue being single until I have found self love. As hard as it is, it’s something I have to do. Maybe you should take the energy that you were focusing into the relationship, and use it to work on you.
I’m not going to sit here and call him a bad man, because for one, you have already said that he isn’t. I do think you need to sit down and evaluate your life. Figure out your goals, what you want to accomplish, what sort of people you want to be around(including what sort of boyfriend or husband you may want), what you want out of life in general… think about these things.. realistically.. write them down, then work on them. You have the strength inside you to change everything that is wrong in your life. Right now, that strength is focused on all the bad things that have happened to you throughout your life, so you need to find a way to channel that energy into something positive.
I hope this helps, and good luck!
A wild flower amongst thorns is still a wild flower. And you will always be a sweet fragrance to those who know you. Get feeling better soon!
{Felicity} wrote:
*lilies wrote:
I am 30 years old and yes i feel like i am the classic type alien. :(He is not there anymore, he has left. And not answering me. In fact, i caught him lying saying he was at a lecture but he was online at the same time. When i asked him about it, he said he was about to give me a message but he was called away.
AWE, another pity party for lilies, no thanks
Pity party whaaattt??
Thank you Daisy, you are right, i said he is not a bad person because certainly he is not. He does take care of me it’s just that this served as a rant to what happened last night when he did not have time and i needed his support.
We have talked about it now and we are taking baby steps. I know i am expecting too much and when he cannot give the support i need i would feel bad and panic. In fact, i have not eaten. The issues will be worked on, and i hope we are going to be in the same page. I have a lot of expectations, some unrealistic ones but we are also working on the expectations of me, because some of them too are unrealistic.
Shakeybritches wrote:
A wild flower amongst thorns is still a wild flower. And you will always be a sweet fragrance to those who know you. Get feeling better soon!
Thank you shakey.I am the thorn. :s
Not to me, but get something to eat girl……..won’t make things any better starving….I got marshmallows and fritos and “something” in a tupperware container in fridge…..your welcome to it….lol
*lilies wrote:
{Felicity} wrote:
*lilies wrote:
I am 30 years old and yes i feel like i am the classic type alien. :(He is not there anymore, he has left. And not answering me. In fact, i caught him lying saying he was at a lecture but he was online at the same time. When i asked him about it, he said he was about to give me a message but he was called away.
AWE, another pity party for lilies, no thanks
Pity party whaaattt??
I refuse to feel sorry for anyone who dont TRY and take others advice and TRY to help themselves and is full of jealousy and obsessiveness. Please get local professional help or at least put your energies and time into helping yourself.
Wow Felicity, what are you up to? this is MY post i can do all the ranting i want. I would respect if you don’t want to talk to me in here. You are also at help.com for a reason. If you don’t have anything good to say, stay away from my post.
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{Felicity} wrote:
*lilies wrote:
{Felicity} wrote:
*lilies wrote:
I am 30 years old and yes i feel like i am the classic type alien. :(He is not there anymore, he has left. And not answering me. In fact, i caught him lying saying he was at a lecture but he was online at the same time. When i asked him about it, he said he was about to give me a message but he was called away.
AWE, another pity party for lilies, no thanks
Pity party whaaattt??
I refuse to feel sorry for anyone who dont TRY and take others advice and TRY to help themselves and is full of jealousy and obsessiveness. Please get local professional help or at least put your energies and time into helping yourself.
WOW… im sorry but isnt that like calling the kettle black and very selfish of you.. i would never have expected such a comment from you.. so unlike you…
sometimes we all need to feel a bit sorry for ourselves… because if we dont, then who will? its called emotions and feelings. as with so much going on with your own life, im sure that there is even a touch of a ‘pity party’ that you feel as well…
what is sad is, lilies felt like something was wrong and just needed answers.. to help her understand what she was feeling, why she was feeling this way… as many of us who post do… sometimes we are over run by our past to see what is really going on.. and just want the view of others to help us see the real light… and what a shame to see a response like this from anyone… seriously… so sad..
and lastly, who on here is educated enough to tell ANYONE that they need professional help? this site is to help each and every one of us.. not just a select few… its called help.com for a reason… its for anyone to come here for advise from others to see what we ourselves are missing…
each and EVERYONE of us have been in a situation in life where, we can give advise that seems the most proper way of handling things… but seriously, how many of us can say that we take every piece of advise that people tell us to do?? giving advise is sooooooooooooooooo much easier than ever receiving it, dont you agree??
so please, if you really have a hard time leaving a positive message, then do as lilies has requested, stay away from the post… because, those who are hurting can take the negativity into feeling and really do something stupid that may be irreversible..
that is all i have got to say… shie.
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