Love help: the guy I’m going out with is really super sweet but hes a Jehovah’s witness (i spelled wrong) and I’m a Christian. - Help.com

dont let that change your mind about him!!! that would be sad. I wouldnt leave my boi because of that!

Religion over love?

Sorry but your thought is very stupid

I thought Jehovah’s Witnesses were Christian.

O_o

calliesamy wrote:
yea its horribly strict. he said he would prefer that but its up to me whether i want to conform to it or not. And im sorry u happen to think my thought is stupid but it happens to be important to me so leave your negativity out of it.

More important than love?

Be a nun then!

What denomination are you?

Whatever happened to religious tolerance?

Would you rather have the truth or opinions?

If you have religious tolerance shouldn’t you both be fine in a relationship? Accepting each other for who you are?

Then I fail to see the problem. If your religious differences won’t interfere with your relationship there should be no problem.

Well, then I think you already know the answer. There is a reason we are commanded not to be unequally yoked.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not Christians according to that “acid test” known as the Nicene Creed, which has defined the character of Christ since 325 A.D. Jehovah’s Witnesses are essentially rehashed “Arians.” They don’t believe that Christ was the actual Son of God. Their “Bible” is not based on any authentic Greek or Hebrew texts, and is full of errors. In fact, the very term, “Jehovah,” does not exist in Hebrew. It is a translation error. They claim to represent the true meaning of the Bible, but the very name of their religion is based on a translation error!

calliesamy wrote:
thats not it we r fine with each it.

calliesamy wrote:
it does interfere in a BIG way.

Am I the only one who is aware of the conflict in these statements?

The truth is there is only one God; the living God - Jehovah…. only trouble with Jehovah’s “witnesses” is they don’t have the truth!

What about religious tolerance?

How so?

Verum Causa wrote:
What about religious tolerance?

My friend this has nothing to do with “tolerance”

calliesamy wrote:
i know about not being unequally yoked. ive heard it enough time to know y but still i dont like the concept.

What’s not to like? It prevents pain. Sin always leads to death or pain or both. To marry such a person would be putting him before God. It is rather obvious he is already making you violate what you hold to be true. As always the decision boils down to what is right and what is wrong.

If someone WANTS to become a Jehovah’s Witness, fine. Just be aware that it’s NOT a Christian sect, at least not the way Christiantiy has been defined for the last 1,683 years.

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that THEY and they ONLY will go to heaven. Even the Apostles, who were not Jehovah’s Witnesses, won’t make it. Instead, all of the other people who believed in and served God will live on a “new earth.”

Forget blood transfusions, birthday parties, Christmas, saluting the flag and ever having any fun again.

Pray for your relationship to the true God - He can work it out! Best to you both!

Believe, I DO know what I’m talking about.

Sir Cody † wrote:

Verum Causa wrote:
What about religious tolerance?

My friend this has nothing to do with “tolerance”

Sir Cody, I thought Christians promoted tolerance. Please correct me if I’m wrong. It’s important. These two people love each other and if they can simply accept each other for who they are they should be fine. Is this not possible?

I’ve researched them, talked to them, and known many of them. Most are really good people. But their religion is an oppressive, cheerless one.

Hold up. I feel this conversation is quite one-sided considering that no Jehovah’s Witnesses are present to defend their beliefs.

ok, i know very little about either religions - if you both really love each other then maybe you can put your life/love over your religion, obviously the relationship may be difficult but could be worth it if you’re really devoted to one another :) i wish you luck

The fact remains that you are considering disobeying God for this man. The belief systems are diametrically opposed.

Truth is that it is a sin to marry one who does not belong to Christ.

The JW’s do NOT believe that Jesus is of the “same substance” as God. When you have a sect that “redefines” Christ in such a fundamental way, it ceases to be Christian.

The JW’s had quite a history with abuse of children by “elders,” which was suppressed like the Catholic Church’s problem with priests molesting children.

But this religion just sucks the joy out of living. You don’t get to celebrate anything any more. God wants us to have an “abundant” life, not one of sadness and constant suffering.

Well, ****. Paul said that a marriage was sanctified as long as one partner believed.

But the practice is not to be recommended, as there will be many problems, e.g., in which faith will the children be brought up in?

The Jehovah’s Witnesses use many Biblical passages to support their beliefs.

True, but again, we are not to be unequally yoked

2 Corinthians 6:14

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

damned4hel wrote:
if u lik him and he likes u wats tha problem

Yeah…

Let religion to a side and be together…don’t let beliefs and ideas get in the middle of love…but well, do whatever you want, it’s your life after all

What’s to say that Jehovah’s Witnesses are unrighteous?

calliesamy wrote:

Sir Cody † wrote:
True, but again, we are not to be unequally yoked2 Corinthians 6:14 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

my father would say the same thing. but i dont whole hardily agree.

If the bible is not true then there is not a leg for Christianity to stand on. So, do you believe the Bible or not?

calliesamy wrote:

2511 wrote:

damned4hel wrote:
if u lik him and he likes u wats tha problem

Yeah…Let religion to a side and be together…don’t let beliefs and ideas get in the middle of love…but well, do whatever you want, it’s your life after all

yea it is my life but it can affect many people from one decision

Tell me who, besides your parents and him, and his parents….

Sir Cody † wrote:
If the bible is not true then there is not a leg for Christianity to stand on. So, do you believe the Bible or not?

Which Bible?

calliesamy wrote:

2511 wrote:

calliesamy wrote:

2511 wrote:

damned4hel wrote:
if u lik him and he likes u wats tha problem

Yeah…Let religion to a side and be together…don’t let beliefs and ideas get in the middle of love…but well, do whatever you want, it’s your life after all

yea it is my life but it can affect many people from one decision

Tell me who, besides your parents and him, and his parents….

if we have children it coudl greatly effect them and their children

Not rly, if you let them decide for themselves what’s what they want to believe……besides, it’s kinda early to think about kids…

When I was at Ft. Hood, a soldier died. The JW elders swooped down to get their “share” of the widow’s life insurance proceeds. Great religion.

The actions of some people who claim to be followers of a religion are not representative of the totality of the religion. Just like calliesamy said. Else Kent Hovind would seal the coffin of Christianity all by himself.

calliesamy wrote:

Sir Cody † wrote:

calliesamy wrote:

Sir Cody † wrote:
True, but again, we are not to be unequally yoked2 Corinthians 6:14 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

my father would say the same thing. but i dont whole hardily agree.

If the bible is not true then there is not a leg for Christianity to stand on. So, do you believe the Bible or not?

i believe the bible. but i dont believe the way some people twist the words (not saying ur one of those ppl)

It is pretty obvious what it says here, is it not?

But I must commend you on the fact that you realize that they can be twisted. Read the scriptures for yourself and ask God what He wants. If you really do care for this man you will want what is best for him. Pray for him as well.

I’m wondering which scriptures she should read, Sir Cody.

You have to look at the Bible as a whole. Whole religions can be–and have been–invented by taking a few verses out of context.

You’re welcome! Good luck!

Verum Causa wrote:
I’m wondering which scriptures she should read, Sir Cody.

all of them, haha. jk
There is what is called a concordance. It literally lists every word in the bible and where to find it and what it exactly means. It is absolutely massive, but I love mine.

Much of what Paul wrote would be helpful I think.

Also, please remember that those who say “love transcends faith” are(and yes, I understand it is not the politically correct thing to say, but that is rubbish) are dead wrong. They do not understand what love is. God is love, He loves the man you are talking about and everyone here, but He also loves you enough to put fences around you so that you won’t fall off a cliff and cause yourself pain.

Concordance?

The Strong’s Concordance to the King James Bible is what I am talking about. You can google it.

I must go for a bit now, but if you want to continue this rather interesting conversation go ahead and shout me.

I think love should be worth working it out, but then again my boyfriend dumped me because of religious differences.

Amhp, any church worth its salt doesn’t use dogma to beat others over the head. If it doesn’t stress love and acceptance above all, then it isn’t of God. P.S. Any church that thinks it’s the ONLY “true” church is triply suspect!

Like Christianity claiming it’s the only true religion?

Christianity claims it’s the only true religion, but if you look deeper into it, there are so many variations of the beliefs and so many interpretations of the Bible.

And there’s Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and others.

I know. There are religions all over the world.

Frankly, i think relgion is pointless. All it does is divides people. This side against that one. Then others look down upon others who accept a different relgion. It’s pointless, and it’s stupid to think a person running for president will never win if he isn’t christian or catholic. F***ing retarded…..Done placing my opinion

I believe that all people, regardless of their faith, will have to go through Christ to get to heaven. But that doesn’t mean that others aren’t going to make it. I recommend reading C.S. Lewis’ “Narnia Chronicles” for an exposition on this subject. One young pagan follower in the series thought he’d go to hell because he worshipped a pagan god. But God told him, “You were serving me the whole time–you just were calling me by another name.”

chev.jame wrote:
I believe that all people, regardless of their faith, will have to go through Christ to get to heaven. But that doesn’t mean that others aren’t going to make it. I recommend reading C.S. Lewis’ “Narnia Chronicles” for an exposition on this subject. One young pagan follower in the series thought he’d go to hell because he worshipped a pagan god. But God told him, “You were serving me the whole time–you just were calling me by another name.”

hah, that’s kinda insperational i guess lol. U should be a moderator, for seriously! lol

I just can’t see Jesus saying “nope.. can’t come in… sorry… ” just because you love and care for someone.

Can you?

Not in that way. I’d have to think it through…

~Lucy~ wrote:
if you change there will be no birthdays, no christmas, :(

No Valentines, no easter, no thanksgiving, and a lot of the usual celebrations. (google away!)

I may be wrong, but aren’t you supposed to be a Jehova’s Witness in order to be able to marry another Jehova’s Witness (?)

All I can say is be sure of what you want.
I wouldn’t recommend changing up your lifestyle, giving up things, and changing beliefs for some “super sweet guy”.

Best of luck!

I think that you will face hardships if you become unequally yoked. I have seen first hand what it will do to a family….because the Lord also punishes the children for the sins of the father. That means that when someone doesn’t obey and follow His word, not only are they punished, but the punishments run deep. Down through the generations.

How would you feel if you had children with the man you love and because of the relaxed religious views (either you converting or just “letting go” of your religious convictions), your children grew up to never know the love of God. What if they were never saved because of the lack of religious convictions? How would you feel? If you don’t already have children, you cannot even fathom the love that you WILL have for them…and how this one decision will weigh on your heart forever.

Please follow GOd’s word. Pray to him, read your Bible, and He will give you answers. He will also answer your prayers….though possibly not in the way you want them answered, he will answer your prayers in YOUR BEST INTEREST.

And, men come and go….do you realize how rife this country is with divorce? You don’t think it will happen to your when you first fall in love and marry….however, it happens to AT LEAST one of every two people. The best chance you have of making a marriage work is being united with another Christian.

Thanks Lucy,
Took me a while to find something I didnt reply.
lol

From what I understand its not encouraged though.
(?)

Don’t worry Lucy, you’re good.

Hi there,

I think your worrying ist not stupid at all. In your shoes I would be worrying about the long term and asking myself questions like “Is he going to be more and more conscious about the fact that I am not a Jeohva Witness (or however it is spelled)?”. “Once your relationship gets deeper, are his brothren going to demand you become one of them or you split alltogether?” Yes, there is a risk this is going to happen. The only way to avoid this is to talk to him in depth about your worries. He must commit to some statement. He must be clear with himself, if BELIEVING is more important than love. Unfortunately, many people are like that…

I’m going to be the direct and blunt one here. Odds say this relationship won’t work.

The JW’s are NOT a tolerant religion. They think everyone else is wrong and won’t be going to heaven. I’m an Episcopalian, and by no stretch of my imagination do I think that Catholics and Baptists are going to hell. Nor can I say that Muslims and Hindus will go to hell simply because of the religion they were taught. I believe that all persons must go through Christ, or else He wouldn’t have needed to die on the Cross. But NO ONE can say who goes to heaven and who doesn’t. It’s not OUR call. I advise everyone to be suspect of any religion, and especially any religious cult, that says they have a “lock” on divine truth.

Amhp, you’d better believe your boyfriend got pressure to leave you when he reported that it was unlikely you would convert. I personally think you dodged a bullet! You’re better off without that guy.

They believe that only 144,000, go to heaven. The others inherit the earth. The 144,000 govern the earth.
Jehovah told Noah and his family that blood represents the soul, of life. Therefore, God forbade them to eat any blood. (Genesis 9:3,4) Jehovah told the Israelites that blood was to be poured out on the ground and was not to be used for mans own purposes. (Deuteronomy 12:15, 16) And God’s law on blood was reiterated when first century Christians were instructed: “Keep abstaining…from blood” (Acts 15:28, 29).
Out of respect for the sanctity of life, godly people do not accept blood transfusions. They feel that only Jesus’ shed blood is truly lifesaving. They have medical alternatives, acceptable to Jehovah’s Witnessess that have proved to be very effective and it doesn’t expose them to the hazards of blood transfusions.

The name Jehovah is a form of a Hebrew verb meaning “To become,” In the Bible, God is identified by such expressions as “God Almighty, The Most High”, “Grand Creator”, “Sovereign Lord”, “King of Eternity.” However God has a unique name that appears almost 7,000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures alone-more often than any of his titles. Some 1,9000 years ago, the Jews superstitiously ceased to pronounce the name. Biblical Hebrew was written without vowels. Hence there is no way to be precise about, David, or others of ancient times pronounced the four consonants that make up the name.
Some scholars suggest that God’s name may have been pronounced “Yahweh”, but they cannot be sure. The English pronunciation is “Jehovah”.

I had a bf once who told me never to trust a man who doesnt drink coffee. He was wrong about that-but let me tell you-people who do not dance are not to be trusted..dump him and go out dancing with some jew or christian or muslim

Here’s a simplistic thought (thinking outside of religion for a moment).

For the relationship to work, there must be true love.

If someone truly loves you … why do they feel the need to change you? Therefore, if your boyfriend wants you to change who you are… he doesn’t truly love you. Does he?

My boyfriend was a JW when when I first met him, his mother still is. I am an atheist, either you both have to accept one another and realize that faith is a personal thing or find someone else. My boyfriend was not sure what to do, and asked me if he should leave the faith cause he was not happy, I said that he should reconsider either his own faith or a different faith, because even though I am an atheist, I feel that one’s faith is there personal choice and should serve their individual spirituality; simply put it did not matter to me. he should not be asking you to change your faith, if it is that important to him or you, then maybe you both are not right for one another. Everyone has their priorities that they look for in a relationship.. for some it is having the same faith, or culture, for others it is not. You need to find out where you both stand on that concept.

The Jehovah’s Witness is a cult you need to be careful here also you should be familar with this verse in the bible:

2 Corinthians 6:14 “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowshipcan light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial?”

This set of verses really is self explanatory you need to together with other likeminded folks. Theres a reason this is said all that could become of this is disagreement and strife.

What’s a cult?

jdpeka wrote:
I’ve been there. I’m a Christian, I’ve dated non-christians, a jews, a jehova whitness, an atheist, and agnostic, and probably a few inbetween.First of all 50% of marrages end in divorce! That’s a gloomy statistic to start off with. Don’t let anyone tell you religion isn’t important or a stupid thing. If your a Christian your religion should be what defines your life and the way you live. Sure Christians are not perfect, we make mistakes all of the time! It’s our sinful nature, but we don’t want to add fule to the fire.The bible clearly warns about not being evenly yoked. Even if you love him if you feel he’s not going to heaven what is that going to do to your heart? Will you be filled with pain or even turn on your religion? God said the greatest gift is love. And we should love everyone regardless of their religion. However, there are different types of love. Maybe this it is to be that you love him, but not that he’s your match. Maybe through you’re love he will come to know and understand Christian love.

I also referenced 2 Corithians 6:14 if you noticed good points

Christian love.

jdpeka wrote:
Definatly true Gumby - Love is imporant but too many of us don’t know the differences between the types of love and infatuation! It’s hard to learn the differences.

I agree with you thanks.

Verum Causa wrote:
Christian love.

Sorry Verum I wasn’t ignoring you a cult is a group of folks claiming Christianity but embrace a particual doctrine or teaching by an individual leader or group which denies the truth of the doctrines of Christianity. Those doctrines are found in the 66 books of the bible. Their particular religous practices are typically secretive and are not always readily accessible to the outside.

You realy need to talk to him and see how you both feel about it, but I do not think you should call it quits until you do that. In my opinion, ditching someone because of their faith, and their faith alone, is like turning away from someone because they have a different skin color, without knowing all that you need to know. You need to see how important this issue is to both of you and how you can either fix it ( convert either of you ) or accept it.. as I said , everyone is looking for different things in their mate… if you need someone to share your same faith in order for you to be happy, if you NEED that, then by all means, find someone who shares that with you…same for him.

Love is abstract, you cannot just fit it in a box and say if you have this, this, and that, it will all work out. Cause you do not know, if he will not accept you with your faith…I would not change my faith, if it gives you purpose..that is not fair for him ask… or anyone in my opinion. Perhaps one day if it all worked out, he would convert.. but you cannot demand that, converting is a huge step and takes time…personal commitment..that is not something either one of you can decide for the other. Talk to him and take this chance to really understand what you want from someone..it is a great opportunity, amist the chaos to really figure out your priorities… faith, affection, honesty, etc etc.. that way when mr. right comes along ( if he is not here already )… it will be less questioning.

I have to agree with rememberpoe. I was even under the impression from Christians that religion shouldn’t be a divisive force. But I’m wondering if the original poster has read any of the literature I am sure exists by people who have gone through relationships with members of different faiths. I think their experiences would prove invaluable.

Verum Causa wrote:
I have to agree with rememberpoe. I was even under the impression from Christians that religion shouldn’t be a divisive force. But I’m wondering if the original poster has read any of the literature I am sure exists by people who have gone through relationships with members of different faiths. I think their experiences would prove invaluable.

Sometimes it can be when folks try to rewrite the truth of the bible and twist the facts. For me I’m not a fan of religion. Religion is man’s attempts to reach God. Christianity is relationship with God so I like your avatar

jdpeka wrote:

Gumby wrote:

Verum Causa wrote:
I have to agree with rememberpoe. I was even under the impression from Christians that religion shouldn’t be a divisive force. But I’m wondering if the original poster has read any of the literature I am sure exists by people who have gone through relationships with members of different faiths. I think their experiences would prove invaluable.

Sometimes it can be when folks try to rewrite the truth of the bible and twist the facts. For me I’m not a fan of religion. Religion is man’s attempts to reach God. Christianity is relationship with God so I like your avatar

I’m not religious, I just love the lord.

exactly

You can find cults in all faiths in my opinion… you can also find them in all faithless organizations as well. I used to generalize about religion and faith, but I thankfully have matured and know that a persons faith alone does not determine their humanity. I say that for all believers and non-believers. I do not favor anyone.

I have nothing against faith… if it is that important to someone , for sure.. you need to find someone with the dame faith. You could pose the same situation to culture. Mixed cultures and races, share the same issue, just on a different frontier… I think it is individual.. some people, NEED different attributes in their mate.. for some faith may be it, culture may be it, race may be it… or more abstract ideas may dominate..I wish people were not put in boxes… and that we could all be who we are.. not all atheists are the same, not all christians are the same, etc etc.. there is a more human quality, I pray..and as I said this is your chance to find out what you really want in your partner…maybe it is faith, maybe not… but this is a good chance to do some soul searching…he may not be the one for you.. not because of his faith , but because of his character.. you never know..

Verum Causa wrote:
I have to agree with rememberpoe. I was even under the impression from Christians that religion shouldn’t be a divisive force. But I’m wondering if the original poster has read any of the literature I am sure exists by people who have gone through relationships with members of different faiths. I think their experiences would prove invaluable.

Thanks :) I am being as unbiased as possible. lol.

Have a wonderful day people :) Be nice to each other or at least try to be, lol…there are far too many horrbile things happening in the world to be fighting about this.

Me too, I have a good friend that teaches Jehovah Witness beliefs. She and I have had many discussions and that is how I came to explain about his name, and the transfusion question. For the last 6 years I have peppered her with questions. She is a great person although I dont feel it is for me.

jdpeka wrote:
Remeberpoe - There’s a difference - Dating someone of a different race or country doesn’t have any berring on your thoughts and views. Dating someone of a different “religion” is to date someone that doesn’t think the way you do about where you are going to spend eternity.Don’t you think that fact might have a big role on what happens throughout that relationship?

I am going on experience. I dated an egyptian christian.. i am an american atheist… so do not try and tell me that culture does not affect how someone may live and view life… it does affect the relationship..if culture is placed high on the priority list. he was not the best christian , I knew him and his past..i went to his church and went to meetings, and read and studied…but it is not enough.. no matter how much I tried to understand his culture and contribute to his faith… it came down to his character… for me.. Culture does have it’s problems, I faced them.. the prejudice and the hiding because in his culture.. this and that is not right… I know, I have been there. Do not put people or faith , or culture in a box…it affects people differently..it may be important to some people and may not be for others..do not under-estimate the power of those things…because there are people… read my posts.. who really NEED those things… like faith or culture, etc.. and then there are as verum mentioned those in the past that did in deed overcome those obstacles somehow.. it is an individual thing….

Ok I am leaving this post, Have a wonderful day people. Peace be with you all.

jdpeka wrote:
The fact is Christians are in the world, and not of it. Our purpose here is to love other’s, spread God’s word and glorify our maker.

We have peace, joy, and assurance in knowing what our eternity will be.

A yoke keeps of the same animals together doing a job, moving forward in a straight line. Yoke 2 differnt animals and one will cary the load all the time, or they’ll just spin in circles.

Can you be a christian and be unevenly yoked? Yes! Can you’re marrige be successful? Maybe - It will be hard if to think that you will not spend eternity with that person.

Just peeked back in to the post you have some great points in the reply. The greatest stumbling block is what the JV’s represent. Their ultimate goal is indoctrination into their belief. So the relationship willbe challenged to say the least. If I were this person I would run fast in the other direction. To be friends is one thing but as we both pointed out to be in a relationship is quite another.

Rememberpoe being an athiest I don’t expect you to understand that. The questions was posed from a Christian or someone with a faith or religion. If that’s the case then it’s always going to matter. Someone who doesn’t have that won’t be asking this questions

jdpeka I put my comment in the wrong spot sorry

THe JW’s ultimatly are looking to indoctrinate more folks into their belief system. You have keep in mind that they are a religous cult. You have to be very careful in this respect. As a Christian I think you know this as well.

Here’s a Web site that shows how the vowel points for “YHWH” were misapplied, and we got “Jehovah,” instead, which is a complete mistranslation: http://www.godswebsite.com/asimple.htm

My problem with the JWs is that they took the King James Version of the Bible and simply CHANGED it to fit their own doctrine. Here’s a link that exposes the total lack of qualifications of their Bible “translators”: http://onetruegod.wordpress.com/2008/…

It’s one thing to take verses out of context and simply misinterpret them, but the JW’s took their doctrine to the next level by totally “re-translating” the Bible. That’s like one of the political parties in the USA taking the Constitution out of the archives and simply rewriting it, and then presenting it to the American people as a “corrected copy.”

calliems123 wrote:

pastormichell wrote:
I am a Pastor and would have to say that we must always seek God. No Matter what. His worg is true. He does clearlt speak about being with someone that is unevenly yoked. He says DO NOT DO IT. You could try to change the word because u choose to not want to believe it, so it could be justifed to be with this guy. I am sure that you really love Him. But have you thought about if God wanted to reach him and pull him out of this terriable occult? This is a occult. I would challange you to read online about the JW”s learn the truth. The Truth shall set you free. You are smart and God has already convicted u. Or you would not have written this in the First place. Be strong in the Lord do not sell out. True love is found in Christ. The person that says love over religon does not really know about the truth. God is love! Without Him we do not know true love. I know that you all can feel emotions bit to really know what real love is you need Jesus for that. Remeber that. If He can not love God more than you, it will never work. God bless you and I will pray for you.

Pastor Michelle

Thankz i appreciate all the prayer i can get

That could not have been stated any better. As this pretty much reflects the thoughts that were conveyed to you earlier by myself and other beleivers. The fact that you are convicted by this shows God’s Holy Spirit working in your heart. I have a daughter who is about your age and I would tell her the same I I have told you it would be good to just move on and let this person go his goal as I mentioned before is to bring in more converts and your on the radar. You seem smart and thoughtful so you’ll do the right thing.

calliems123 wrote:

Gumby wrote:

calliems123 wrote:

pastormichell wrote:
I am a Pastor and would have to say that we must always seek God. No Matter what. His worg is true. He does clearlt speak about being with someone that is unevenly yoked. He says DO NOT DO IT. You could try to change the word because u choose to not want to believe it, so it could be justifed to be with this guy. I am sure that you really love Him. But have you thought about if God wanted to reach him and pull him out of this terriable occult? This is a occult. I would challange you to read online about the JW”s learn the truth. The Truth shall set you free. You are smart and God has already convicted u. Or you would not have written this in the First place. Be strong in the Lord do not sell out. True love is found in Christ. The person that says love over religon does not really know about the truth. God is love! Without Him we do not know true love. I know that you all can feel emotions bit to really know what real love is you need Jesus for that. Remeber that. If He can not love God more than you, it will never work. God bless you and I will pray for you.Pastor Michelle

Thankz i appreciate all the prayer i can get

That could not have been stated any better. As this pretty much reflects the thoughts that were conveyed to you earlier by myself and other beleivers. The fact that you are convicted by this shows God’s Holy Spirit working in your heart. I have a daughter who is about your age and I would tell her the same I I have told you it would be good to just move on and let this person go his goal as I mentioned before is to bring in more converts and your on the radar. You seem smart and thoughtful so you’ll do the right thing.

i think uve miss understood my comment…i havent desided to let him go from the pure fact i dont think i could. im goin to sit down and see if i might cant help him see it my way.

Wow thats great! Your doing the right thing pointing him to whats right is awsome be careful and also it would be good to have a good working knowledge of what he;s involved in. Remember you can’t convince anyone only point them to that direction and let the Holy Spirit do the rest. Maybe God put you in his life for this very reason

Its good to see a young person like yourself standing up for what you believe also if your involved in a youth group ask your leader for advice and direction too. I’m glad to help also if you ever need it. Not a lot of mellenials will take a stand for their faith keep it up the world needs it.

WOW I never seen so many responses! This is a very touchy subject. If you just go and date him it would be hard because of you’re different religions. One of you will have to give in to the others religion if both of you are very devoted to your religions. Its unfortunate that this could ruin such a beautiful thing but thats how it is. But maybe somehow it will work out for you. If you are a serious southern baptist christian then pray to God about it.

i think if you love him you should forget whatever your religions tell you to do and go with your heart. what kind of god would separate people in love anyways? not one id want to follow.

Urine Sane wrote:
i think if you love him you should forget whatever your religions tell you to do and go with your heart. what kind of god would separate people in love anyways? not one id want to follow.

Your missing the point

nope, pretty sure i got it full and clear.
thanks for that though.

Well said, my friend!

Here’s the true question. Do you feel its worth it?

To be honest….no single person can speak for ‘god’. The bible is not the word of ‘god’ it has been changed more than any other book in history, added to, bits removed, and translated hundreds of times to the point of losing bits in translation. Catholics have one view of him/her, jews another, jehovas witnesses, rastafarians, dissenters but it all boils down to one thing. God is love. Being with this guy is not causing harm to any single person, therefore it IS NOT WRONG. All this is the reason I choose to follow my own beliefs. We are made in his image, and therefore, he himself must be reasonable. If he is the kind of being to ******** for being in love and overally being part of something good, then we obviously aren’t made in his image, which undoes one of the most basic ideas in christianity.
At the end of the day….follow your heart. If you love this boy, and he loves you, and he loves you, then surely no bad can come of it.
God is love, and therefore will still love you, just as you love your boy, and just as you both love him.

ok the ***** was NOT a swear word but ill put it in a way that wont get blocked. ‘if he is the kind of being to comdemn you’

Please dont talk against my religion.

I’m not talking against your religion. you just dont understand what I wrote. I believe in god, I just believe he is a lot more reasonable than most people say.

And please dont talk against my right to freedom of speech

What do I think? So what.

I understand, i just dont like it when people talk crap bout the bible

Thats fair enough. I believe in god, but I do not believe in the bible. I dont think we should live our lives by what people hundreds, in some parts thousands of years ago have stated.

I understand your point but ill keep my opinions to myself

Anonymous wrote:
2 corinthians 6. full and clear too.

lol did you just go from not anon to anon?
can anyone say n00b…..

i just think its absolutely ridiculous that youre letting religion get in the way of the person you love. its a no contest really.

It’s really important that people in a serious relationship believe the same basic stuff. I think that every relationship has hard times and if you’re not on the same page about who you worship then it’s going to make it harder to get through the tough times. But that’s just me…

and thats a part of the reason why i dont worship any god who would divide love like that.

If you think for sure you are in love and you think he loves you back then put religion aside for a moment. If you truly love someone then you accept them for who they are. You may not agree with everything they say or do. You cannot change who they are. They have to change themselves. If you really do not believe in the other persons beliefs or actions and it infringes on the way you live your life then you have to let them go.

You say he is a really sweet guy so enjoy your time together, talk lots, get to know each other as well as you can, have fun and the all the rest will follow xx

the truth is…it’s actually absolutely rediculous to let “love” get in the way of your Christian faith (religion)! THAT is no contest!

and, NO, Jehova’s Witnesses are NOT Christian! Wow! don’t seek people’s opinions, seek God’s!

wow, i think i mostly missed this.

i am not going to take the time to read it,

but my 2 cents is this: if he believes this religion, and you do not, wouldnt you fight? can 2 people with diffrent beleifs and views really stand together?

as long as a major confliction exists, it will save you a lot of pain to stay away from him. but if you can try to understand him, or have him explain his beliefs, you could come closer to resolving your diffrence, though its unlikely.

- Fire

I wish I didn’t miss this one…man

usnomad wrote:
the truth is…it’s actually absolutely rediculous to let “love” get in the way of your Christian faith (religion)! THAT is no contest!

and, NO, Jehova’s Witnesses are NOT Christian! Wow! don’t seek people’s opinions, seek God’s!

and that, my friend, is why people hate christians.

christmas is celebrating the birth of jesus, how the hell is that pagan o_O

well gee, thanks you rude, obnoxious christian you.

chev.jame wrote:
Jehovah’s Witnesses are not Christians according to that “acid test” known as the Nicene Creed, which has defined the character of Christ since 325 A.D. Jehovah’s Witnesses are essentially rehashed “Arians.” They don’t believe that Christ was the actual Son of God. Their “Bible” is not based on any authentic Greek or Hebrew texts, and is full of errors. In fact, the very term, “Jehovah,” does not exist in Hebrew. It is a translation error. They claim to represent the true meaning of the Bible, but the very name of their religion is based on a translation error!

I agree somewhat.
(Only because I don’t completely understand Jehovah’s Witnesses and the things they stand for.)
My mom and grandparents are actually Jehovah’s Witnesses and I am Christian. I think it’s sort of funny that this topic is being brought up, because my mom and I were just having a discussion the other day about it. I disagree almost completely on what she “claims” her Bible says.
Somehow we got on the subject of hating people, murder and the 10 commandments. I was telling her that “we should not hate people because in God’s eyes, hate is like murder in the heart.” She looked at me as if I were crazy. I then proceded to ask if that was anywhere in her Bible and she said no. Since when was it okay to hate people?!

Urine Sane wrote:
christmas is celebrating the birth of jesus, how the hell is that pagan o_O

We also got on the subject of this.. and my mom claims that in her Bible, it said Jesus was born when the shepherds and sheeps were out grazing in the feilds. (Something like that) and that it is “impossible” for Jesus to be born in December.

Personally, for me, it’d be hard to date someone so differently. :/ Although I don’t know a lot about my Christian religion, I do know what I believe in and I know what I stand for. I’m not at all implying he’s a bad person, I just think my religion is more important than a guy. Just wanted to add my imput.

like I said, JHs are not Christians. Do your research. And urine, it appears that you obviously hate Christians, and that’s sad. I never said anything about hating JHs (or anyone for that matter), I just said not to let people get in the way of your faith, if you have any! the Bible is true and I believe what the Bible teaches and I don’t, and won’t apologize for that; I have a backbone, unlike so many people in today’s world that won’t stand up for what’s right! they make you think that you have to like, accept or at least tolerate anything (except Christians!) or else you’re in the wrong. God is our Creator, Jesus Christ died on the Cross for me, you and everybody else and I couldn’t think of not taking a stand for Him! it’s sad that in today’s world you have to tolerate anything, everything and everybody or else you are labelled a biggot, hater, intolerant, etc. how wrong that really is!

i do tolerate people. im a christian, and i tolerate people, and their beliefs because i unconditionally love them. but tolerance does not mean we need to say that other beliefs are true, becuase honestly, some dont make sense. i really like some parts of the previous statement, latter half mostly.

- Fire

usnomad wrote:
like I said, JHs are not Christians. Do your research. And urine, it appears that you obviously hate Christians, and that’s sad. I never said anything about hating JHs (or anyone for that matter), I just said not to let people get in the way of your faith, if you have any! the Bible is true and I believe what the Bible teaches and I don’t, and won’t apologize for that; I have a backbone, unlike so many people in today’s world that won’t stand up for what’s right! they make you think that you have to like, accept or at least tolerate anything (except Christians!) or else you’re in the wrong. God is our Creator, Jesus Christ died on the Cross for me, you and everybody else and I couldn’t think of not taking a stand for Him! it’s sad that in today’s world you have to tolerate anything, everything and everybody or else you are labelled a biggot, hater, intolerant, etc. how wrong that really is!

You can believe whatever you want, but you have no right to dictate what other people do if they don’t share the same beliefs as you and if they are not harming you or abridging your right to believe and behave as you wish within reason. I am going to stand up for my rights to be free from Christianity or any other dogmatic religion as I see fit. How wrong it is for you to think you can impose your beliefs on others! Shame on you!

Read the Bible and obey.

No.

why the heck should we o_O

its a religious post.they always go this way.

Wow its still going I think the person who posted here is long gone

We should all go over to the McCain Obama post and argue there its more fun

http://help.com/account/read-notice-2… come on lets go yaaaahoooooo

For me, in your situation, it’s not good for you to push through with it.

Dazmos, you missed the point. The JWs believe that Jesus was God’s “first born,” but SUBORDINATE to God. The JWs reject the concept of the Holy Trinity. Christians have been defined by believing in the Holy Trinity since the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. Reread the differences a little more carefully. They may not jump out at you, but they are of enormous importance.

Here’s yet another Web site explaining the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, and why it is central to Christianity: http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id…

The Jesus in non-Trinity-believing sects is quite a different Jesus than the Jesus of the Christian church–quite different, indeed.

By the way, Mohammed got the Trinity dead wrong in the Quran. Mohammed thought that the doctrine of the Holy Trinity referred to God, Jesus and his mother, Mary.

they always do. its the nature of religious posts. contentious subject.

There is problem(s) with groups and being a part of one. Historically groups have started out with specific intention and then at a later period are hijacked by one or more individuals for a different intention (examples: feminist movement, black panthers, christian,…). Groups can make it hard to be an individual. As an individual you have your own opinion, with all of your varying views. As a group, there are rules which are applied to everyone. Joining a group is like turning America into a corporation (some researchers say the 14th Amendment of 1868, following the Civil War, transferred jurisdiction of our rights into the “admiralty-maritime” jurisdiction of Roman civil law. Proponents of this argument state that the amendment was instrumental in altering the average American’s citizenship status from the state within which he/she resides to that of a U.S. citizen. In 1993, the 10th Circuit Judge Marianna Opala rendered an opinion which stated that the Constitution does not apply to 14th Amendment citizens). One of my personal concerns about being labeled as a Jehovah’s witness is blood transfusions. As a nurse I have watched people’s lives over years saved by blood transfusions. I have discussed this with Jehovah’s Witnesses who have visited my home. Their argument has been that there are substitutes for blood, and my argument is that the substitutes are not adequate to save a life. They will argue to differ and I found the facts where not important to them. They insist that artificial substitutes can be used and I tell you they will not save your life. I have also witnessed Jehovah’s witnesses die in the Emergency Room for refusal of blood.

You know what the Bible saysregarding this matter, don’t you?