You can only get caught if you’re sharing music, they can’t get you for downloading. Not sure if they’re unable to track downloads or what, but I happen to know a legal representative for the RIAA, so if I’m wrong, it’s her fault.
Xeno Dragon wrote:
You can only get caught if you’re sharing music, they can’t get you for downloading. Not sure if they’re unable to track downloads or what, but I happen to know a legal representative for the RIAA, so if I’m wrong, it’s her fault.
A lot of download software, when you’re downloading you’re also uploading, unless I’m mistaken.
.setto.sunk. wrote:
Xeno Dragon wrote:
You can only get caught if you’re sharing music, they can’t get you for downloading. Not sure if they’re unable to track downloads or what, but I happen to know a legal representative for the RIAA, so if I’m wrong, it’s her fault.
A lot of download software, when you’re downloading you’re also uploading, unless I’m mistaken.
You can turn that off on most of them. But according to my parents I get all my music from Itunes and friends, they don’t approve lol. As for these sites I am planning on checking them out.
.setto.sunk. wrote:
Xeno Dragon wrote:
You can only get caught if you’re sharing music, they can’t get you for downloading. Not sure if they’re unable to track downloads or what, but I happen to know a legal representative for the RIAA, so if I’m wrong, it’s her fault.
A lot of download software, when you’re downloading you’re also uploading, unless I’m mistaken.
Yes, but that’s just the default. You can “unshare” files.
Xeno Dragon wrote:
.setto.sunk. wrote:
Xeno Dragon wrote:
You can only get caught if you’re sharing music, they can’t get you for downloading. Not sure if they’re unable to track downloads or what, but I happen to know a legal representative for the RIAA, so if I’m wrong, it’s her fault.
A lot of download software, when you’re downloading you’re also uploading, unless I’m mistaken.
Yes, but that’s just the default. You can “unshare” files.
Ah but that’s not cool, to take from it but not give back.
well, that’s the RIAA’s fault. Most people would gladly share, but can’t for fear of getting caught.
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I knew a guy who downloaded some music recently. I’m not sure if it was from your site or not. Anyway his computer got a whole butload of viruses. He ended up losing everything. He, of course, flew into a rage and ended up driving his car into a telephone pole later in the evening. He’s okay but it was a really bad experience for him.
I download legally. Its a really good site too. Its called 360share. You only have to pay like…30 bucks for a lifetime of music. Its pretty cool^^
Anonymous wrote:
I knew a guy who downloaded some music recently. I’m not sure if it was from your site or not. Anyway his computer got a whole butload of viruses. He ended up losing everything. He, of course, flew into a rage and ended up driving his car into a telephone pole later in the evening. He’s okay but it was a really bad experience for him.
You might want to get your friend some counselling, there, bub.
It probably wasn’t legal, that’s how he got all the viruses.
You know what’s funny… you can use those illegal programs to get software that protects you from viruses. So there’s really no risk if you get the program while you have… oh, I don’t know… say, the Norton Antivirus that comes with Windows, and then download another version of Norton. When your free time runs out, and Norton wants you to pay for continued protection, move on to your other program. It’s easy, really. I don’t know how someone who gives a sh*t can get a virus these days.
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Yeah, I use Limewire PRO and PAID for Norton Antivirus so, no viruses for me, and all the free music I want.
I didn’t pay for Limewire PRO, just the antivirus stuff. It was a good investment because now I’m worry free. And I certainly do not share anything on Limewire, so I’m in the clear. Thanks though.
And Norton sucks. AVG works just as well if not better and it’s free.
I don’t care, the only way they’d know is if I was sharing files… Which I’m not. And that’s cool, I had AVG for a minute, and it works fine. In fact, still have it on my home PC, but I just prefer Norton for my laptop.
Actually, that’s not true. Most people who get in trouble get in trouble beause they either download movies or download huge quantities of music, 5G (I think, don’t quote me on that) a day.
Xeno Dragon wrote:
You can only get caught if you’re sharing music, they can’t get you for downloading. Not sure if they’re unable to track downloads or what, but I happen to know a legal representative for the RIAA, so if I’m wrong, it’s her fault.
Why You Should Download Legal Music Instead
Michael David Crawford
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February 2, 2007
I decided to write this article after a friend told me in all sincerity that the money she paid to purchase Kazaa went to compensate the artists whose music she downloaded. She had no idea she was violating anyone’s copyright.
I figure that most peer-to-peer file traders, while probably aware they are violating copyrights, aren’t much more clued in than my friend. While I have your attention I feel I should also explain some of the legal and historical issues around copyright, and suggest steps you can take to make file sharing legal.
If you don’t think that violating copyright by downloading music with filesharing programs like Kazaa, Grokster, Morpheus, Madster, eDonkey, Direct Connect, OpenNap, iMesh, or Gnutella could get you in serious trouble, then you need to read RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Against File Swappers and House Bill to Make File-Sharing an Automatic Felony.
The RIAA is using the Digital Millenium Copyright Act to force internet service providers to turn over the names of file traders. They can determine your internet protocol address by connecting with your peer-to-peer client over the Internet. Using your IP address and the time you were connected, the ISP can determine your name. If the RIAA finds you this way, they will sue you.
When you are the defendant in a civil lawsuit, you don’t have the protection against self-incrimination that the U.S. Constitution grants criminal defendants. You will be required to give a deposition, in which the party suing you will be able to ask you anything they want, while you will be required to give truthful answers under oath. In addition, your friends may be subpoenaed and compelled to testify as witnesses against you.
In civil lawsuits, there is a process called “discovery” that allows the party suing you to use the force of law to require you to turn over any evidence they ask for. In particular, they can seize your computer and forensically examine your hard drive (so that they might even recover files you’ve deleted), read any logs of email you’ve saved, obtain your telephone records from your phone company and obtain the log files from your ISP as well as the log files from any Web sites you’ve ever visited.
The RIAA has had limited success at suing the publishers of file sharing software. Some systems, like Gnutella, are so decentralized that there is little hope of finding anyone to sue. So now they are coming after the individual file traders - meaning you. The article above says the RIAA has already obtained subpoenas against 871 file traders, and will likely have obtained many more by the time you read this. They are asking for $150,000 in damages from each file trader for each song whose copyright they have violated. What will they use the money for? Suing more file traders, of course.
If you lose one of these lawsuits, the only recourse you will have will be to declare bankruptcy. If you’re a juvenile, your parents will have to declare bankruptcy.
While simple copyright infringement is a civil offense where the copyright holder’s only recourse is to sue you, especially egregious offenses are already criminal violations for which the law enforcement authorities will arrest, prosecute and imprison you. Remember the FBI warning you always see at the beginning of movie videos? It is common for large-scale software pirates to be arrested. File traders are next in line.
You can avoid all of these problems by enjoying music from the tens of thousands of talented musicians who offer legal downloads of their music. And you can tell the RIAA to kiss your ***.
http://www.goingware.com/tips/legal-d…
The RIAA can kiss my *** anyway. This is like preaching to a deaf audience.
As someone who has smoked weed, drinks underage, and probably breaks countless other laws that I’m not aware of, I really couldn’t care less about downloading a few songs off Limewire.
It’s like “OMG, I didn’t buy Ciara’s CD for that one song I liked so now she only made 5 million dollars instead of 15 [when you factor in me and all the other people who don’t buy CD’s].” I could care less.
Local struggling artists are an exception. I support them.
You could still pay for the one song by downloading it legally. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that you can still get in trouble by downloading music.
(And by the way, it’s called sign language)
Laina1312 wrote:
You could still pay for the one song by downloading it legally. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that you can still get in trouble by downloading music.(And by the way, it’s called sign language)
Ok, I hear your point. And, no offense. I still don’t care. Why pay for the song to support some dumbass millionaire when I could get it free? If I get in trouble, it’s on me, I assumed the risk. Simple as that.
And yes, I know deaf people can communicate by sign language. That wasn’t the point, but fair enough.
If the RIAA wanted to take my computer, I’d have to microwave my hard drive.
NisaANYgirl wrote:
Laina1312 wrote:
You could still pay for the one song by downloading it legally. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that you can still get in trouble by downloading music.(And by the way, it’s called sign language)
Ok, I hear your point. And, no offense. I still don’t care. Why pay for the song to support some dumbass millionaire when I could get it free? If I get in trouble, it’s on me, I assumed the risk. Simple as that.
And yes, I know deaf people can communicate by sign language. That wasn’t the point, but fair enough.
The sign language thing was just sarcasm. But do you realize you’re not just supporting the artist? You’re also supporting the producers who put up their own money to make this music, the musicians who don’t always make that much money, everyone down to the secretary at the music company, right?
Not to mention, they worked hard to make that music and they should be paid for it.
Only a very small fraction of record sales go to the performer. Most goes to the record company.
If you want to support an artist, go to their shows. They get between 50-100% of the money from shows, as opposed to something closer to 5-12% of their record sales.
Xeno Dragon wrote:
If the RIAA wanted to take my computer, I’d have to microwave my hard drive.
How many songs you have? Ballpark estimate?
Laina1312 wrote:
Not to mention, they worked hard to make that music and they should be paid for it.
And they will be. When I attend their concerts, buy their tshirts, buy stuff that they’re paid to advertise.
Oh, and I don’t care about anyone from the artist down to the secretary. I might just be an ******* though.
Xeno Dragon wrote:
Only a very small fraction of record sales go to the performer. Most goes to the record company.If you want to support an artist, go to their shows. They get between 50-100% of the money from shows, as opposed to something closer to 5-12% of their record sales.
Yes sir. I have a cousin that just signed to Universal [he raps]. And he already put me on about that. Even he downloads… So I’m supposed to care, why?
Oh and I’d like to revise my last statement. I care about the artist. Just not about whether or not I’m stealing like a dollar or two from them by downloading.
Laina1312 wrote:
LMAO! XD! It returns!!!
I love the quoting nothing.
It’s not stealing if you’re not taking anything. It’s information. It’s ones and zeros in your computer. Files are copied, not removed entirely. It’s sharing. Not only that, but it’s not like you’re taking it and selling it, getting their money. You’re just listening to it.
NisaANYgirl wrote:
Xeno Dragon wrote:
If the RIAA wanted to take my computer, I’d have to microwave my hard drive.
How many songs you have? Ballpark estimate?
Oh, not because of my songs. Because of all the other crap I’d get in trouble for.
LMAO XD! AH… I’m not even going to ask lol.
Laina1312 wrote:
File sharing is illegal.
I don’t share. I just get it and quit it XD.
That is file sharing, lol.
Laina1312 wrote:
That is file sharing, lol.
Yes, but I’m only on the receiving end of the sharing. I’m a taker, not a taker/giver =).
I don’t think it matters. :)
You don’t have to. There’s no way to stop it.
Laina1312 wrote:
I don’t think it matters. :)
I know. But it makes me feel better =).
Even if they find a way to make P2P illegal, some other way will replace it. People have been not buying music since you could copy a friend’s tape instead of buying your own or dub music from the radio, maybe even before that. I know, I did it as a child. This is just a better faster way of doing it lol.
What’s really hypocrital is I’ve used Limewire and Frostwire (btw, Frostwire has less viruses). I don’t even know how I got on this little rampage. Maybe I should sleep…
Oh, and i just want to say that I really like www.spiralfrog.com and it’s free and legal because I always do on these kind of posts. Although I think I already did… but I’ve typed this, I don’t care if I repeat it.
Laina1312 wrote:
What’s really hypocrital is I’ve used Limewire and Frostwire (btw, Frostwire has less viruses). I don’t even know how I got on this little rampage. Maybe I should sleep…Oh, and i just want to say that I really like www.spiralfrog.com and it’s free and legal because I always do on these kind of posts. Although I think I already did… but I’ve typed this, I don’t care if I repeat it.
Yup, we use Frostwire on our home computer. I like it better actually. I should switch o.O…
No one minds the repeats tho. I’ll check your site out.
The only thing is it doesn’t have many artists who aren’t as popular.
I like yours already b/c it has Cypress Hill and Immortal Technique. My two faves right now.
The one I tried from the OP didn’t even have Cypress Hill o.O…
Original Poster. Uh, Setto, I think.
Oh, yeah, I tried that one two and they didn’t have Alexz Johnson or Skye Sweetnam, and SpiralFrog has a couple CDs of each of them.
How is it that that site can give free music and it’s legal, but it’s illegal on Limewire? The artist gives their permission or something?
Laina1312 wrote:
Oh, yeah, I tried that one two and they didn’t have Alexz Johnson or Skye Sweetnam, and SpiralFrog has a couple CDs of each of them.
-_- wow…
Okay, this copied directly from SpiralFrog’s FAQ.
“How come there’s no cost – what’s the catch?
SpiralFrog is an ad-supported Web site. We sell ads on our pages to advertisers who want to talk to you. And we give the majority of that advertising revenue to the music publishers and labels who own the music you’re downloading.
Most of our song and video downloads take a short, consistent amount of time to complete, during which we encourage you to keep discovering new areas of the Web site. Every page you visit allows us to serve more advertising, thus building the revenues we can pay to the content creators.
We do NOT ask you for a credit card. But we do ask for your time and attention. And, for that, we thank you…
Is there a limit to what I can download?
As of now, we have over 700,000 songs available for you to download. You may download as many of these songs as you like – no limit. We are adding more songs and videos every week, so if you don’t see your favorite band, check back often to see the latest updates.
We also have music videos that you can watch on the site, or download to your computer. Although the videos stream on the site in low resolution (300Kbps), you may download videos in both low and high resolution (1,000Kbps). Please note that, if you select to download the higher resolution videos, it will take a little longer to download as the average file size is four times larger than the average song file.”
Okay, I get it. That’s cool. If I can’t find stuff there though… *runs back to Limewire*
Meh, the point has pretty much been lost here. My main reason for downloading creative commons stuff is that the artists are people that have allowed anyone to have and edit their music as long as you’re not making money of it. It’s more the idea, the fact that music should be free, but you can donate to the artists if you so desire.
When you’re downloading from torrents or limewire, you are sharing at the same time. And if you’re not, then that’s even worse, because you’re using the benefits of the online sharing community but putting **** all back into it. You’re a leech. If people didn’t upload it would never be there, if nobody uploads nobody can download.
Limewire has never been up to the standards I want in software I use, bit torrenting is something I’m very much used to.
I’m going to pretend that didn’t go right over my head and check back tomorrow to see if it makes more sense then.
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Another alternative is to collect Coke bottle caps. Then go to their site(mycokerewards.com or something) and enter the codes. You can get individual songs or full albums from raphosdy and you paid for it. Just because someone won’t notice it’s gone doesn’t make stealing right.
Or you could just download like everyone else. Instead of getting diabetes or digging around in dumpsters.
See where you make the mistake, is by thinking that some people care about being a “leech” or whatever. Because for every person like me who downloads only there are more people who upload AND download.
I’m getting what I want from it and protecting my own ***. It’s a non-issue. Seriously. Like I said, the artists will get my money one way or another, so who cares if I get their song for free legally or ilegally?
I personally hope you get caught, but according to Xeno that won’t happen so oh well.
Grue wrote:
I personally hope you get caught, but according to Xeno that won’t happen so oh well.
Uhm, congrats?
I am always on the winning side.
Thanks for the site! To the guy who wrote the very long note about the seriousness of Piracy:
It’s not enforced. Sorry, it just isn’t. It’s an illusion. If it was enforced allot of people would be broke or in jail. Millions of people.
That’s not to say piracy is a good thing..its just not really punishable.
I think you just called me a guy… or were you talking about the original poster?
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